bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 No, incredibly enough they said they'd send one, but I kind of feel bad for asking one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Nah, don't. They're just showing they appreciate you as a customer. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Back in stock! https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10159641146643755 Karol Dr. Rick and Pawel P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pawel P. 738 Posted February 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 Ordered. This was the last gap in my JW collection (Okay, I'm still waiting for JAWS to come back) bollemanneke, Dr. Rick and Chewy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 If only Superman could fly back in stock... GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, crocodile said: Back in stock! https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10159641146643755 Karol Thank you! Ordered - one of my last gaps from recent reissues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 If someone hasn't bought it yet and doesn't want to wait for the next batch, I would advise to hurry up. There are 49 copies left on the La La Land website, or at least this is what the system shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 That can't be right, they ordered 500 new units and did not say this was the last batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Maybe the 49 remaining copies are from this new but not last 500 units batch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Chewy said: Maybe the 49 remaining copies are from this new but not last 500 units batch? It's been out of stock for quite a while, so maybe ~450 copies have sold since Wednesday? Or perhaps they're re-adding stock to their website in increments of 50? It says 47 remaining now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 6:23 PM, bollemanneke said: That can't be right, they ordered 500 new units and did not say this was the last batch. Nobody says it's the last batch. Of course it'll come back, but no one knows when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I cna't believe that 450 copies went in such little time but that this set still hasn't sold out in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 It hasn't sold out completely yet because La La brings it back in small batches at large intervals. Unless I am mistaken, first there were 2,500 copies, then three times 500 copies - and these smaller batches always sold in a few days. 1000 more copies will probably be sold in the future. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 15 remaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,314 Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, Chewy said: 15 remaining! Wow! 32 copies sold in the last 10 hours! It's been back in stock for about 100 hours. 32 * 10 block of 10 hours = 320 units, and allowing for an initial surge when it first returned to stock, seems very possible they've nearly exhausted their latest batch of 500 units. Crazy! To anyone still holding out... I guarantee you'll regret missing out on this. This is going to be your last chance for a longggggg time if you hesitate much longer. I learned the hard way with Superman, the Disaster Box, Empire of the Sun, etc. you just can't hold out when it comes to scores you want, otherwise you'll be waiting a year to get your hands on it. Holko, Pawel P. and Chewy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Pawel P. said: It hasn't sold out completely yet because La La brings it back in small batches at large intervals. Unless I am mistaken, first there were 2,500 copies, then three times 500 copies - and these smaller batches always sold in a few days. 1000 more copies will probably be sold in the future. Oh, right, I had no idea about the first 2,500, still surprised they didn't go as fast, though. Really happy for them this monumental set is doing well now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 SAE is also accepting orders. Act now before this batch runs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 "Temporarily out of stock" on the La La Land website. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 2:19 AM, Pawel P. said: "Temporarily out of stock" on the La La Land website. Welp, those 500 copies went quick! I'd be really surprised if the scores weren't reissued as individual releases once the box is totally sold out, based on these sales. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Agreed, but I wonder what will happen if the box hasn't sold out this year. They can't re-issue HP2 and 3 and not do HP1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Agreed, but I wonder what will happen if the box hasn't sold out this year. They can't re-issue HP2 and 3 and not do HP1. Based on manufacturing delays, I'd honestly be surprised if the box came back into stock this year. I can see Azkaban getting a reissue for its 20th Anniversary, especially if the analogue masters turn up and they find all those early alternates sans WTTP. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Right, but that would be a rather weird thing to do if they aren't going to do it for 1 and 2. And I still want to know why they didn't look at the tapes in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Right, but that would be a rather weird thing to do if they aren't going to do it for 1 and 2. And I still want to know why they didn't look at the tapes in 2017. I thought the analogue tapes for POA were missing, and nobody could find a cue recording list to verify if those early alternates were even recorded. Whatever sources they did have for POA, they weren't complete (judging by the incorrect take being used for Befriending the Hippogriff). I'm sure all 3 scores will be reissued though; it's just that POA needs the most work of the 3 to be truly definitive -- barely anything is missing from 1 and 2. Once and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Oh, I never heard they were missing. I just assumed they didn't bother to look since they had digital files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I'm curious how much of their 5000 allocation they've sold. I assume that initial batch was around 2000 units, and they've had multiple restocks of 500 units since its release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 hours ago, crumbs said: I'm sure all 3 scores will be reissued though; it's just that POA needs the most work of the 3 to be truly definitive -- barely anything is missing from 1 and 2. It's the only one that needs any more work to be truly definitive. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: It's the only one that needs any more work to be truly definitive. In fairness there's a few bits and pieces still unreleased from the first two scores, but personally I don't need a single extra note from either. My appetite is completely exhausted by the end of disc 5 (especially with all the musical repetition in HP2). HP3 is such a breath of fresh air by the time you reach disc 6. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 What's missing from 1 and 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 isn't technically missing anything, but original versions of some cues without the inserts overlaid could be presented, and also the vocal performance of the christmas song I think is a different take on the OST for part of it For 2 the little insert that bridged The Train Station to The Flying Car is unreleased bollemanneke and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I don't think that Christmas song is a different take... Can you write more about the HP2 insert? I never fully understood how it worked. What you hear in both the movie and LLL makes musical sense, though the transition between the two cues is a bit clumsy on the LLL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2021 2M2 The Train Station was recorded, written so the final note would segue into the start of 2M3 The Flying Car 2M3 The Flying Car was recorded, written for a cut of the film where that opening bit with the car flying up in front of the clock tower was still included If the film was left as is, they'd be combined together as one long piece of music, which is what Mike did for the LLL set. However Columbus edited the film, removing that initial clock tower bit. Now, the start of 2M3 The Flying Car was no longer used in the film So, 2M2 Insert was recorded, which bridges from the end of 2M2 The Train Station into the point in 2M3 The Flying Car that now begins the cue in the film. We didn't find a spot to put 2M2 Insert on the set anywhere, and it's not like it's musically interesting anyway I'd propose on a future edition if it ever gets to be reissued as 3CD set, to make a new edit for the main program that goes 2M2 The Train Station -> 2M2 Insert -> 2M3 The Flying Car, and then in the bonus track section present 2M2 The Train Station and 2M3 The Flying Car each in their own track. But there was no room to do that for the 2CD configuration crumbs, bollemanneke and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Jay said: 1 isn't technically missing anything, but original versions of some cues without the inserts overlaid could be presented, and also the vocal performance of the christmas song I think is a different take on the OST for part of it For 2 the little insert that bridged The Train Station to The Flying Car is unreleased I just remembered, HP1 IS missing something: the real intro of the Trailer, starting with Hedwig's theme in B flat minor on celesta. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2021 Oh right the sheet music shows three different intros were written actually (well the original then 2 different revised intros) Once, crumbs and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Were both versions definitely recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 I mean, bolle just said what you hear in the trailer is different than what you hear on the set, so I'd assume so Can't say I've ever compared anything myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I don't trust what's literally heard in trailers or movies anymore, given how liberally Williams' music has been manipulated by sound editors since the prequel era. Especially after all the pitch shifting we saw in TROS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, crumbs said: I don't trust what's literally heard in trailers or movies anymore, given how liberally Williams' music has been manipulated by sound editors since the prequel era. Its noteveryday you get a War Horse where its just a bit of microedits and some cymbal/gong/tam-tam overlays. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 I always meant to compare the trailer to the LLL version of the track but just never did Not being able to read sheet music puts a damper on me being able to figure out myself anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Intro sounds the same as the LLL to me, but I haven't compared with a fine tooth comb. It's definitely cut down from LLL D3T13 though. @bollemanneke were you referring to a different trailer? The theatrical trailer sounds like London music to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Well the LLL track is longer with extra sections and in the music in the actual teaser is edited down. And it's my favorite performance of Hedwig's Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,042 Posted February 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2021 All right, buckle up, here we go with the SS trailers... So there were evidently five trailer cues recorded for the film: Hedwig's Theme: Heard in complete form from 0:00-1:04 in the LLL track "Teaser." Used (with edits) in the teaser. Not to be confused with the OST track of the same name, which was a longer concert suite that incorporates the same material. Trailer: Heard in complete form as the remainder of the LLL track "Teaser." Used (with edits) in the teaser. Trailer #2: Heard in complete form as the LLL track "Trailer." Used (with edits) in the theatrical trailer. Trailer #2 Intro: Unreleased and unused. To get an idea for what it would sound like, imagine 1:48-2:00 of the Hedwig's Theme concert suite, but with the periodic descending string runs removed and a one-note intro added at the beginning. (You can also get a good feeling for this by listening to the first 13 seconds of "Mr. Longbottom Flies," but imagine that the first note is shorter and missing all the flourishes, and then omit the pizzicato strings at 0:08.) Then add 2:14-2:31 of the concert suite to the end. New Trailer Intro: Unreleased, but used without edits as the first 0:34 of the theatrical trailer (segueing, as intended, into Trailer #2). Corresponds to 3:55-4:10 of LLL "The Prologue / Privet Drive" followed by 0:41-0:56 of LLL "The Journey to Hogwarts," with the ending being slightly different to segue into Trailer #2. (Then, of course, there's LLL "Television Commercial," AKA Hedwig's Tries a Coke, which was written for and used in a TV promo, and which Williams incorporated into the OST track "The Arrival of Baby Harry.") So the missing material @bollemanneke is referring to is the cue New Trailer Intro. But we're also missing Trailer #2 Intro, and we haven't even heard that one in an actual trailer. The only real stretch of music from any of these cues that was never adapted for use in the film and OST is the section of Trailer heard from 1:39-1:52 in LLL "Teaser." Of course, there are noticeable performance differences in numerous other passages, but the writing itself is mostly or completely identical. ragoz350, Once, bollemanneke and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Datameister said: Aside from performance differences, the only real stretch of music from any of these cues that was never adapted for use in the film and OST is the section of Trailer heard from 1:39-1:52 in LLL "Teaser." yeah , that's the main reason I wanted that teaser music and I wish Williams had included it in the final version of Hedwig's Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, King Mark said: yeah , that's the main reason I wanted that teaser music and I wish Williams had included it in the final version of Hedwig's Theme Yeah, I was thrilled to finally have that passage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Got it, so "New Trailer Intro" was definitely recorded, replaced the opening of "Trailer #2" in the actual trailer, but remains unreleased. "Trailer #2 Intro" was probably never recorded. Neither provides anything terribly unique anyway, and the LLL track contains the entire original version from before someone wanted to change the opening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 There's also small details like the tempo of certain passages like the trumpet figures at the end I prefer in the Teaser over the final Hedwig's Theme recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I think the London recordings are definitely more polished, but there's something I really like about the trailer performances too. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 9:50 PM, Datameister said: Hedwig's Theme: Heard in complete form from 0:00-1:04 in the LLL track "Teaser." Used (with edits) in the teaser. Not to be confused with the OST track of the same name, which was a longer concert suite that incorporates the same material. Trailer: Heard in complete form as the remainder of the LLL track "Teaser." Used (with edits) in the teaser. Were these always intended to play right after each other like they do in the LLL track? Just a case of one piece of music divided into two cues for recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 I'd speculate each was written wild (IE, based on JW's memories of the books and maybe some footage he was shown, but not the final assembled teaser as we know it) -- and that they eventually cut a teaser together and slapped edited versions of each recording into it Here's the teaser: You can see there really is no specific sync points at all between music and visuals, and that it just kinda casually goes from "Hedwig's Theme" to "Teaser" at 0:40. Incidentally, I always found it so weird they chose that shot of Snape with Quirrel acting weird next to him instead of any other shots of Snape looking petulant they could have gone with bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Interesting thoughts. I think there are some points that sync up well, mainly the moment at 0:40 where the screen goes dark as the first cue ends, and the first few seconds afterward that are mysterious, then grand, as the students enter the great hall. But that could be a case of footage edited to fit the music. And the rest of it after that point has more of a montage feel, where you could cut any shots in there that you wanted. What a classic teaser, I love how they left out dialogue and even sound effects in many of the shots and let Williams do the talking. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 Right, I think the music editors did a decent job of editing Williams' music into the footage that was assembled. But there's a different level of magic when Williams is given assembled footage and he writes music directly for it, that isn't here really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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