Datameister 2,037 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I'm guessing Hedwig's Theme was written based purely off of the book, and then Trailer was written a little later with the intention that it come right after Hedwig's Theme. But it very well may not have been written to picture either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 Oh yea, I would definitely assume it was written specifically for the upcoming teaser and so that it would sound good starting right where the already-recorded "Hedwig's Theme" ends, but I have no idea if he was given specific edited footage to write it to, or if it was written wild. If the sketch of it leaked we might know more if he wrote descriptions of footage along the top, which he sometimes does on sketches but not always Datameister and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM 14 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Which menu on the Prisoner of Azkaban DVD can 1M4X Marge Points the Finger be heard? crumbs and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 It's one of the transitions somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,499 Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 Disc 2, Divination Class, Trelawney's Crystal Ball. crumbs, AJM and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I really like how that cue and the original waltz segue so perfectly while the revised version and waltz also sound so great together. The fact that they were switched around in the movie is weird. AJM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 After listening again to all three score I again think, that the score of the first movie is the most coherent listening experience. Azkaban works still best as OST. Chamber of Secrets is somewhere in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I agree about HP1. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,393 Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 Me too. HP1 works wonderfully in complete form, as long as you're in the right mindset to experience it. BrotherSound, Smeltington and bollemanneke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Yeah, I made my own C&C edit of HP3 and have to admit it's a bit exhausting to listen to because of the small cues. I'm going to try and combine a few of them without changing the order to see what that sounds like. The OST is not representative for me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,037 Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 The only two issues with HP1 as a complete score listening experience are the repetitive use of Hedwig's theme before we get to Hogwarts and the sheer length. Both issues are resolved with the fantastic OST program; you just miss out on a lot of stellar music. For POA, I think the OST is quite strong in and of itself, but some of the missing music somehow feels more essential than with the first film. A C&C presentation is very stop-and-start and not entirely satisfying as a result, but I also tend to avoid the more fluid LLL sequencing because I find some of the chronological shuffling to be distracting. It's a weird paradox...POA is a truly incredible score, yet I can't find an ideal way to listen to it. (Currently I use a mostly chronological edit of the LLL material, but with one or two adjustments.) bollemanneke, Taikomochi and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowbobwow 69 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 This is the only LLL product I own. If I was rich, I'd own all their releases. But since I'm not, I feel like I chose... wisely. Smeltington and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bollemanneke 3,337 Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 I wouldn't call HP1's length a problem, though. Once, Holko and crlbrg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 It's a good size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I wouldn't call HP1's length a problem, though. I mean, I never complain about having more music. I'm just saying that if you want to listen to the whole thing, you'd better have a few hours to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Right. When I thought about problematic length, LOTR1-2 immediately came to mind. The amount of aimless ominious chords in those scores is staggering. But yes, HP1 does have a Hedwig's theme overload, which the OST doesn't really solve either because it removes some of the best variations ever (Harry Gets His Wand). Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Better to wait a week for those 2.5 hours you can set aside than settle for a butchered version! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Or just perfect multitasking bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, Holko said: Better to wait a week for those 2.5 hours you can set aside than settle for a butchered version! I mean, I can't remember the last time I listened to the OST. I nearly always go with a more complete presentation. But I do think it's a rather masterful OST, particularly with the way parts of the Children's Suite are used. @bollemanneke I agree, which is why I don't listen to them very often. Same with watching the extended editions. It's just a chore. bollemanneke and Faleel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Heh, I love that stuff, its so resonant, so soothing. Of course I am not a complete idiot, so did make a condensed edit a while back that cut some of that stuff, but haven't listened to it in a while, because there were some things I was missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smeltington 1,436 Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 Yes, the HP1 OST was very well assembled, and very clever in taking the ideal form of each piece, using the full range of recorded material. The complete score does take a long time to get through, but I love the whole thing, so I always listen to that. I often break down longer scores into multiple listening sessions. It makes it easier to appreciate each cue or group of cues anyway, when you don't OD on the whole thing at once. Jurassic Shark, Faleel and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Smeltington said: I often break down longer scores into multiple listening sessions. It makes it easier to appreciate each cue or group of cues anyway, when you don't OD on the whole thing at once. The good sense that many seem to be missing Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Sorry, but the OST version of Diagon Alley sucks. The intended film version is so much more magical. The suite is a nice curiosity but does not belong in the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Disagree! The tempo on the score version feels so rushed. I'm still fine to listen to it knowing the other one will come up in the children's suite, but if you were going to pick just one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I think the HP1 OST itself is too long/repetitive, and I doubt I'll listen to the expanded program much again. My preferred Harry Potter playlist might be Children's Suite->CoS concert suites->PoA OST. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 The HP1 OST works if the chldren's suite is your thing, but if not (as is the case for me), it pushes the album rather far into the 'inspired by' territory. If you take out the concert pieces and material from the suite, we only get about 52-53 mins of score from a 2 1/2 hour film, which isn't very much. That, and the irritating microedits he did in several places to remove material that would easily have fit. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I need to do that sometime, remove the suite from the OST and see what that sounds like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: The HP1 OST works if the chldren's suite is your thing, but if not (as is the case for me), it pushes the album rather far into the 'inspired by' territory. I absolutely love the Children's Suite, but as its own separate complete thing, not jarringly chopped into parts of an entirely different kind of writing. Same with most concert pieces. And TV ad cues. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I love TV ad cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 If JW was as focused as he was on translating the score into a separate listening experience, he could've done a 2-CD set - disc 1 being a solid 70-75 mins of pure score, and disc 2 being the Children's suite and other concert pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 But Rowling didn't want the suite to be released. Having said that, Filmtracks claimed there were rumours of an expansion in 2001/2 AFTER the OST was released. Can anyone here confirm/deny that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 Confirm a rumor? What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, Jay said: Confirm a rumor? What do you mean? Either: Did such a rumor exist back then? or Was there talk of an expansion by WB/JW etc ? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 I do not personally recall any rumors of any expansions back then but who knows I have no clue if WB and JW talked about expansions between themselves ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM 14 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Here is a recreation of the Prisoner of Azkaban Japanese CD cover for anyone interested. Couldn't find a high res version of this online and find it much better than the standard faces cover. Only difference is I changed the 'Music from and Inspired by the Motion Picture'. I've also created custom covers for other Harry Potter soundtracks Harry Potter Custom Covers Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j39m 75 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Sorry to bump an old thread, but does anybody have any insight on LLL's "temporarily out of stock" status? I've mentioned before that I was criminally slow on the draw in the first run and am now loathe to throw money at scalpers — but that would be contingent on LLL actually producing more of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 It means they don't currently have any stock on hand, but plan to order more in the future. It's not out of print, they'll carry it again as soon as they can. On February 7, MV said "In the meantime we will do our damnedest to get more Harry Potter sets produced. It's not sold out. I repeat ITS NOT SOLD OUT...just OUT OF STOCK. Its just a pricey endeavor to make the packaging and manufacture the 7 cds at a third party finished goods rate, but we should have some more in stock by Summer." On June 24, MV indicated it "depends" on if it will be available by Q4 2021 or not until 2022 On June 25, MV indicated "Harry Potter is coming back first" when asked about the Disaster Box, which he indicated is expected for Q1 2022. So I guess that makes Potter 1 also expected for Q1 2022 unless something's changed. j39m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 MV just indicated this will be back in stock in "Mid March" https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=146835&forumID=1&archive=0 Unlike many other titles marked as "final batch" on that list, Harry Potter didn't have one, so at least another batch should be coming after this one j39m and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay said: MV just indicated this will be back in stock in "Mid March" https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=146835&forumID=1&archive=0 Unlike many other titles marked as "final batch" on that list, Harry Potter didn't have one, so at least another batch should be coming after this one Correct me if I’m wrong, but were there minor frequency issues on a few tracks in Prisoner of Azkaban when this first came out? What are the chances of these being corrected? Should I re-purchase this when it is back in stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Later pressings have fixed discs, yes. There's no need to re-purchase in my opinion. The human ear can't tell the difference between the two, and you can download the fixed tracks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, Jay said: Later pressings have fixed discs, yes. There's no need to re-purchase in my opinion. The human ear can't tell the difference between the two Really? So, you are fine with the set when you first ordered it upon original release? I just want to make sure. Your opinion is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 I mean, I was involved in making the set happen and was tasked with listening to all 7 discs as they were being created and gave notes on what could be changed and didn't notice anything wrong with the sound of Azkaban, no. The people who discovered the cutoff frequencies were looking at the music instead of listening to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I see. So, if it were an issue, then you would’ve recommended re-purchasing. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 It's your money, and only you can decide how important it is to you to spend another $100 to have the restored frequency version on your shelf. One option is, you could always sell your current copy to fund a purchase of the new set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivatee 327 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, Jay said: The people who discovered the cutoff frequencies were looking at the music instead of listening to it. So you're saying blind listeners would not notice the defect, but deaf listeners might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 In Audacity, I personally listened to the "difference" of the original tracks vs HD corrected tracks mixed by MM... and we can hear a difference. It's a feature of Audacity, you can remove the sound of track A from the sound of track B, so all it remains is the difference between the two tracks. There's no music at all in this "difference" tracks. But we can hear the "air" of the sound (or some very light reverb). So I maintain that the corrected tracks are essential, as they add more "life" to the tracks, they sound less "digital". greenturnedblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,379 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Bespin said: But we can hear the "air" of the sound (or some very light reverb). This is pretty much the same sound that we can hear when comparing a lossless to a lossy track. Kind of a proof that a lossy source was indeed used (not really a frequency curved one). crumbs and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 @Antonb it's your lucky day (see post directly above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j39m 75 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 As soon as I saw this thread bumped, I bolted over to LLL's website to place my order before even catching up here. Let's hope I snagged one proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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