Holko 9,499 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, TSMefford said: Also cool! I didn't see that. Must've missed it. I'll look for it and take a listen! On 12/13/2018 at 9:41 AM, Holko said: WARNING DISCLAIMER: I beg you, whoever reads this, not to listen to these if you have the set or will receive it within a week! Bookmark it or something if you may be interested, but please just spend time with the album presentations first and get to know them, these are just fun diversions and additions that can come later. Here's the post where I shared most of the tracked cues from HP1 and 2 recreated, some of them synced to picture to show the cue off better, click on the arrow in its top right to go there. One can PM for all the original complete flac files. On 12/13/2018 at 9:41 AM, Holko said: Well, we've come to this - new, high quality remastered sources. I do not plan on revisiting and updating this analysis, but Appendix B sure was helpful! So, there you go, with generous resource donations from @Lockdown, I recreated the tracked cues in Chamber of Secrets and also the ones in Philosopher's Stone for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 So what's different about Harry's Wonderful World (extended)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Two extra bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: So what's different about Harry's Wonderful World (extended)? On 11/26/2018 at 5:29 PM, Jay said: In fact, the HPCOS OST debuted the missing seconds of Harry's Wondrous World that were microedited out of the original HPSS OST (hence the "Extended Version" moniker on the new set) On 11/26/2018 at 5:34 PM, Jay said: The cut bars are right around the 2:00 mark. Compare the HPSS OST HWW track to the HPCOS OST HWW track (or the HP1 session leak track) and you can't miss it TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, Holko said: That's right! I remember now. Thanks for sharing that again Holko! Great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJosh 892 Posted December 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 Is the little bit of celesta trill at the end of 'Hogwarts Forever (vocal version)' actually part of that recording, or is that an extra bit of wild celesta added to the end? Once, bollemanneke and TSMefford 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,287 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 Great question. AFAIK it's just all one take but I never specifically asked about it Once, MrJosh, bollemanneke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Great question. AFAIK it's just all one take but I never specifically asked about it That would be my guess. It's a funny little thing to hear on the end of it, but kind of cool at the same time. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted December 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 The trailer music for the first film is exhilarating! Just trying to remember the last time I heard trailer music that bold and powerful, nowadays it's the BWAAAAMS and the Plink-Plonks... Bilbo, Once, MrJosh and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJosh 892 Posted December 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 I love the fanfare for the centaur creature in The Dark Forest. Sounds like it could find a home in TPM. TSMefford, Once and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I want to try to make a shorter cue for Saving Buckbeak alternate ending Seems a waste to have to listen to the whole 10 minutes to get to it .Is there anything else different about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Just noticed some small glitches in The Rescue of Sirius. They're hidden quite well, but once I heard them I can't unhear them now! 😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, King Mark said: I want to try to make a shorter cue for Saving Buckbeak alternate ending Seems a waste to have to listen to the whole 10 minutes to get to it .Is there anything else different about it? Are you referring to the different bat ending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, King Mark said: yes Maybe you could start it some time just after 2:56 (I'm referring to 2:56 in the track titled "Saving Buckbeak (Alternate Segment)"). Seems like a decent place to divide it You'd have to fade it up depending on where you started it. Or maybe around the 3:00 mark with the chimes flourish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 yeah,I might try something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,287 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, King Mark said: I want to try to make a shorter cue for Saving Buckbeak alternate ending Seems a waste to have to listen to the whole 10 minutes to get to it .Is there anything else different about it? I think you're a bit mixed up here. The 10 minute track in the main program contains 3 cues - 6M7 Reviewing The Recent Past (which had been released on the OST as its own track called "Forward To Time Past"), then 7M1 Viewing The Recent Past (previously unreleased, and nowhere else in the set), and then 7M1A Saving Buckbeak with the New Bats ending, which is the ending heard in the film, and, IMO, the much better ending, that is certainly the one you'd want in the main program. The BONUS track called "Saving Buckbeak (Alternate Segment)" is 4 minutes long, and contains only 7M1A Saving Buckbeak, without the ticking clock noise, and with the alternate ending that had been used on the OST. On the OST, the track called "Saving Buckbeack" was actually a combination of an earlier cue (5M8 Buckbeak Is Sentenced, which is "The Sentence" on the new set) as well as 7M1A Saving Buckbeak, but as stated the LLL bonus track is JUST 7M1A, it doesn't have Buckbeak Is Sentenced attached again. Once, Arpy, AlejandroGO and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 yeah I was listening to my rip of the scratched disk and the shorter alternate is after so everything is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,833 Posted December 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 I love how throughout The Children’s Suite you can here the instruments (the celeste and bassoon keys) and the musicians breathing. It makes it feel like you’re sat in the middle of the orchestra. Alan, Jacck, Molly Weasley and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I noticed the flute solo opening A Window to the Past LOST it's breathing sound TSMefford and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jay said: The 10 minute track in the main program contains 3 cues - 6M7 Reviewing The Recent Past (which had been released on the OST as its own track called "Forward To Time Past"), then 7M1 Viewing The Recent Past (previously unreleased, and nowhere else in the set), and then 7M1A Saving Buckbeak with the New Bats ending, which is the ending heard in the film, and, IMO, the much better ending, that is certainly the one you'd want in the main program. Was "Reviewing the Recent Past" presented in complete form on the OST? If I'm not mistaken, the Buckbeak's Flight-statement at the end was omitted. TSMefford and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Was "Reviewing the Recent Past" presented in complete form on the OST? If I'm not mistaken, the Buckbeak's Flight-statement at the end was omitted. Yep. It was indeed omitted on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Is the PoA trailer the CoS recording of Reunion of Friends or a new one? TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, King Mark said: Is the PoA trailer the CoS recording of Reunion of Friends or a new one? I’d imagine it’s CoS, but I haven’t gotten to comparing them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I believe it is a new recording. I compared the two before, and they both sound the same to the untrained ear. It’s the same orchestration, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Working on my edit just now. Holy DAMN "The Portrait Gallery" is butchered in the film. HARD. Like wow. EDIT: The Portrait Gallery / Big Doors / Great Ceiling. It's all chopped to bits. Wow. There's tracking, major speed changing, cuts, and loops all in this one little section. It's got everything! Once and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: I believe it is a new recording. I compared the two before, and they both sound the same to the untrained ear. It’s the same orchestration, though. Should be easy enough to just overlay both versions and see if the tracks phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Should be easy enough to just overlay both versions and see if the tracks phase. Alright. Never ask a music editor this kind of stuff XD @crumbs and @King Mark Ask and ye shall receive EDITED FOR CONCISENESS: I lined them up basically perfectly and I wasn't getting any phasing. Upon further inspection though. I'd say it's the same recording. However, it is a different mix. The waveform ended up being suspiciously different. As in, the channels on the HP3 "Trailer" track seemed perfectly inverted and the left and right channels were swapped. Once I reversed all that, the waves matched much closer, but there are certain areas where certain instruments are louder. So, I'd wager it's the same recording, but a new mix for the trailer. In fact, getting them perfectly in sync reveals where the new mix changes were made. Phasing in certain areas and not in others. See audio below Here's a visual representation of the two: As you can see. There are areas (once HP3 Trailer is restored to resemble the correct stereo configuration) where the waveforms are identical. However, there are areas where the mix has clearly changed and then of course at the end the Trailer cue was edited for time. Audibly, you can really hear it. Note how at 0:10 You can hear a sharp cut in the phasing, then we are in the new mix, however around 0:33 it switches back to the original mix. And finally, for good measure. Here are the stereo Spectral Frequency Displays for each overlayed on top of each other. I inverted the colors of the HP3 Trailer track and lowered the opacity by 50%. This way, anything that is basically identical will be cancelled out. As we see, most of the track is "cancelled out". The only distinctions are the gong / cymbal overlay near the beginning and the ending that is off due to the edit: SO. In conclusion, HP3's "Trailer" is just a remixed version of "Reunion of Friends" from HP2. It is not a new recording. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,379 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Arpy said: Just noticed some small glitches in The Rescue of Sirius. They're hidden quite well, but once I heard them I can't unhear them now! 😢 Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Around the middle of the Buckbeak's Flight statement. They're barely noticeable but I picked them out because I'm paranoid crazy guy. @ around 0:52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, Arpy said: Around the middle of the Buckbeak's Flight statement. They're barely noticeable but I picked them out because I'm paranoid crazy guy. @ around 0:52 Have you compared with another person's release? It could be your disc. Otherwise, maybe raise it with Jay or Mike and they can check if it's a problem with the source material. I'm a bit scared to identify it myself, in case I can't unhear it (a bit like the artificial stretching in Rey's Journey). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,379 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I can't hear anything weird, this cue is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,833 Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 The only glitch I found on that cue is that there’s no muffled SFX of the cell door blasting off! bollemanneke, Jacck, DJMcNiff and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Arpy said: Around the middle of the Buckbeak's Flight statement. They're barely noticeable but I picked them out because I'm paranoid crazy guy. @ around 0:52 Just naughtily checked that track (I'm not up to Azkaban yet) and not hearing anything wrong with it in my copy. It sounds like it might be transitioning into a different take at around 0:54 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 46 minutes ago, Alex said: The only glitch I found on that cue is that there’s no muffled SFX of the cell door blasting off! I'm so gonna miss that breaking glass and Hermione's scream. Molly Weasley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Arpy said: Around the middle of the Buckbeak's Flight statement. They're barely noticeable but I picked them out because I'm paranoid crazy guy. @ around 0:52 I hear a wooden percusion instrument make a note, i think . Claves maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: I hear a wooden percusion instrument make a note, i think . Claves maybe? Hopefully that's it, because it happens again a second or two later. I'll try ripping it again to see if it's anything. If anyone can share with me their cue I'd much appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 it sounds like a background noise/instrument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,301 Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just finished COS! Wowzers, the last half hour is incredible. Unfortunately I found the first half of the score a little meandering. Every time you think the new material is headed in a really interesting direction, it breaks into a left-hand turn diverting to note-for-note PS reprisals. Such a missed opportunity, especially with those amazing new themes (mostly underutilized). An entire score filled with the Fawkes, Chamber and Dobby themes would have been phenomenal. Still, lovingly assembled and lots of fun. Perhaps listening to it the day after PS tainted my impressions a little, because the craft on display is still top-tier Williams. There's a solid 90 or so minutes of excellent original material in the score (a hell of a lot more than most people thought he wrote for the film) and probably 30-45 minutes of quotations or re-arranged cues. Azkaban next, probably on the weekend. I've saved the best for last so I can really crank up the volume on my sub without disturbing the neighbours! DJMcNiff, Arpy, redishere and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, crumbs said: Just finished COS! Wowzers, the last half hour is incredible. Unfortunately I found the first half of the score a little meandering. Every time you think the new material is headed in a really interesting direction, it breaks into a left-hand turn diverting to note-for-note PS reprisals. Such a missed opportunity, especially with those amazing new themes (mostly underutilized). An entire score filled with the Fawkes, Chamber and Dobby themes would have been phenomenal. Still, lovingly assembled and lots of fun. Perhaps listening to it the day after PS tainted my impressions a little, because the craft on display is still top-tier Williams. There's a solid 90 or so minutes of excellent original material in the score (a hell of a lot more than most people thought he wrote for the film) and probably 30-45 minutes of quotations or re-arranged cues. Azkaban next, probably on the weekend. I've saved the best for last so I can really crank up the volume on my sub without disturbing the neighbours! I do agree that the new themes should've been utilized more, but as is the case with Home Alone 2, I feel like even the material basically lifted note for note from PS just sounds fresh somehow in COS. I was shocked by how much I was okay with all of it. But I agree again, the third act of this score is just outstanding! Looking forward to your thoughts on Azkaban! Crank it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, crumbs said: Just finished COS! Wowzers, the last half hour is incredible. Unfortunately I found the first half of the score a little meandering. Every time you think the new material is headed in a really interesting direction, it breaks into a left-hand turn diverting to note-for-note PS reprisals. Such a missed opportunity, especially with those amazing new themes (mostly underutilized). An entire score filled with the Fawkes, Chamber and Dobby themes would have been phenomenal. Still, lovingly assembled and lots of fun. Perhaps listening to it the day after PS tainted my impressions a little, because the craft on display is still top-tier Williams. There's a solid 90 or so minutes of excellent original material in the score (a hell of a lot more than most people thought he wrote for the film) and probably 30-45 minutes of quotations or re-arranged cues. Azkaban next, probably on the weekend. I've saved the best for last so I can really crank up the volume on my sub without disturbing the neighbours! Agreed, crumbs! Can't wait to hear your thoughts about Azkaban! Enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 I will change "Through the Doors" to "Entry Into the Great Hall", and "Entry Into the Great Hall and The Banquet" to "The Banquet". That juridical policy is ridiculous. bollemanneke, crumbs, Holko and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,220 Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: I will change "Through the Doors" to "Entry Into the Great Hall", and "Entry Into the Great Hall and The Banquet" to "The Banquet". That juridical policy is ridiculous. Prior to this release, I looked at the original cue titles just for fun, and I saw that the Maestro's titles for those two cues are Entry Into the Great Hall, and The Banquet, respectively. I decided to simply change the first track to "Through the Doors and Entry Into the Great Hall" so as to keep both the Maestro's original cue title and the new title (plus, I like the sound of that title; it fits). I also changed the second track to "The Banquet." Again, this is to reflect the Maestro's cue title. Initially, I thought of leaving it alone, as I always thought the title of the second track could refer to the ghosts entering the Great Hall as well as the banquet itself in the scene. Either way, it still fits. It's funny; I never change track titles. In this case, though, well, I figured, "Why not?" crumbs, Once and TSMefford 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,379 Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 I love how @JohnnyD replaces every occurence of "John Williams" by "The Maestro" in his sentences TSMefford, DJMcNiff, bollemanneke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Honor to whom honor is due! TSMefford and DJMcNiff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,340 Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 10 hours ago, bollemanneke said: I'm so gonna miss that breaking glass and Hermione's scream. I actually had to recreate some of the sfx from the rips myself when listening to Azkaban the first time. TSMefford, crumbs and bollemanneke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,287 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 18/12/2018 at 6:17 PM, Brundlefly said: Was "Reviewing the Recent Past" presented in complete form on the OST? If I'm not mistaken, the Buckbeak's Flight-statement at the end was omitted. Wow, you guys don't miss anything! That little bit of music wasn't in the sheet music for Reviewing The Recent Past OR Viewing The Recent Past, so I don't know whether to consider it an Extended Ending to the first cue or a New Intro to the latter! Also: Bloody hell! I've listened to that bit a million times and never noticed it was basically the Buckbeak's Flight melody in disguise! How cool! On 18/12/2018 at 7:23 PM, King Mark said: Is the PoA trailer the CoS recording of Reunion of Friends or a new one? On 15/12/2018 at 12:47 PM, Jay said: I'm pretty sure its just music from a trailer house seguing into the Reunion of Friends recording from HPCOS. It was included in the archives WB sent over, so Mike put it at the end of the album to both be comprehensive and to give the album, and the entire set, a "big finish". TSMefford, bollemanneke and Alan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 16 hours ago, TSMefford said: see audio below TSMefford, DJMcNiff and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Arpy said: Lol. Hey man I'm just trying to use my tools to prove things and explain what I'm doing. XD I know many find it tedious though so I do apologize. I'd make a pitiful professor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Haha, I just thought it was absurd to read: 'See audio below'. I'm still looking and can't find it. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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