Holko 9,499 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Him having read the books has a somewhat higher chance maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I read somewhere that JW doesn't watch movies aside from the ones he scores? So, he probably haven't watched neither Potters 4 to 8 or the Fantastic Beasts franchise, as well as Rogue One, the Jurassic movies post-TLW, and so it goes. However, on Potter's case, JW's was at least familiar with the first book, since he told he read it before he knew they were going to make a movie, so... maybe he read the other books too and knows how the story ends? But I don't count on that - from what he implied on his interviews, he spends most of his days involved with music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 He doesn't seem like much of a movie fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: So, he probably haven't watched neither Potters 4 to 8 or the Fantastic Beasts franchise, as well as Rogue One, the Jurassic movies post-TLW, and so it goes. Good for him! Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Hahahahaha, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 HP4 isn't bad at all, except that they all seem to be deaf that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 7:53 PM, Thekthithm said: The HBP score is so boring they needed to lift the Fireworks track from OOTP to make it more exciting. Oh please. Do you say that about every film that tracks music from it's predecessors? You must hate Chamber of Secrets If it's so damn dull then how come I manage to consistently revisit HBP and haven't listened to OOTP in years? Honestly, I'd say the inverse of what you said. HBP grabbed the only interesting pieces from OOTP and marries them with a more interesting score I won't say it's a masterpiece by any means, but I wouldn't call it dull. Call me crazy if you will, but I will gladly buy a Hooper expansion. As far as where they rank with the other scores? POA SS COS GOF DH1 HBP DH2 OOTP For me, OOTP is the one of the two Hooper scores that is dull and unmemorable. I can name and discuss most of the motifs and thematic material from HBP, even the less significant ones, but besides Umbridge, Fireworks, and Dumbledore's Army...nothing else stands out in my memory. Did Luna have some material? Can't remember. Is there Sirius material? Can't recall. You know what I do remember though? I remember having to rip the end credits for OOTP because the final track in film order is just so...anti-climactic. Fawke's theme may not make an appearance in Half-Blood Prince when it ends, but it least it feels resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 hours ago, TSMefford said: If it's so damn dull then how come I manage to consistently revisit HBP and haven't listened to OOTP in years? Because you have no taste? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Thekthithm said: Because you have no taste? Lol okay. Despite the insult to myself, I'll bite. What about OOTP to you personally find that's better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Why can't people just accept there's personal tastes and nothing more. There are Williams scores and themes that do nothing for me, but that's no indictment against the film or the music, I just don't like it. TSMefford and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, Arpy said: Why can't people just accept there's personal tastes and nothing more. There are Williams scores and themes that do nothing for me, but that's no indictment against the film or the music, I just don't like it. Sure. You're right. I'll just leave it with this: IF there ever is a Hooper set, a Doyle release, a Desplat release. I'd buy all of them. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 7 hours ago, TSMefford said: Lol okay. Despite the insult to myself, I'll bite. What about OOTP to you personally find that's better? Shorter album, better highlights, bolder thematic variation. HBP has maybe one okay motif I thought was alright, the rest was forgettable. Holko and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 HBP is more boring than Algebra II. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 This doesn't have much to do with anything but we're all vaguely aware Gilderoy Lockhart's theme is a variation on Hedwig's Theme? I just realized it raises that one note of HT up a half step, which is the same thing Patrick Doyle does on the Goblet of Fire title. Just saying, John did that first. Nyah nyah. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 No Ticket! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Unlucky Bastard and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Ah, back in the day even an American writing for American kids could call it what it fucking is! Arpy and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Max McCoy would be a billionaire if he had changed it to Sorcerer's. Pieter Boelen and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, Holko said: Ah, back in the day even an American writing for American kids could call it what it fucking is! Mommy, what's a philosopher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Arpy said: Mommy, what's a philosopher? Some Brit shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 15 hours ago, Arpy said: Why can't people just accept there's personal tastes and nothing more. Because it's not true. It's bullshit. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Oh hi Mark Smeltington and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just listened to disc 1 again. What an experience. Smaug The Iron and redishere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redishere 697 Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Just listened to disc 1 again. What an experience. Such a dense and magical hour of music. I love how disc 1 ends with the Quidditch Match, and disc 2 opens with the Christmas cues. That way, you can really embrace the festivities taking a break while changing CDs Chewy, TSMefford and Pieter Boelen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Sorry if this has already been discussed, but did Williams not score the beginning of this HP1 trailer (Hedwig's Theme in B-flat minor?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 That was a point I brought up when the set was first released. I was surprised it wasn't part of the teaser cue. No idea what the situation is there. Some people thought it was from the film recording of Journey to Hogwarts, but it clearly is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 No, it most certainly isn't. I'm surprised now because that intro really brings up a lot of nostalgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Could it have been artificially pitch shifted for some reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 It doesn't sound pitch-shifted, it's a different recording or a demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 It's possible it could have been done by Magic Box Music way back in the day. They were collaborators on the Potter trailers for a LONG time. Let me check the archive of their site. I recall there being a post about it or something. EDIT: Magic Box Music (John Sponsler and Tom Gire) have Sorcerer's Stone listed on their site in their credits. Listed as composers. It's possible maybe they had some Stingers or something used. Or perhaps they did some arrangements. I have mentioned this previously, but they are the ones who wrote the intro before Double Trouble kicks in in the Teaser track from PoA bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I highly doubt it - I feel quite certain it was another trailer cue Williams did (and which was also rerecorded as the end of the film's prologue and the first view of Hogwarts). Arpy and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Datameister said: I highly doubt it - I feel quite certain it was another trailer cue Williams did (and which was also rerecorded as the end of the film's prologue and the first view of Hogwarts). Edited my above post. Their archival site has both Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets trailers listed on their resume and credits them as Composers. So they certain had some hand in something. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised. https://web.archive.org/web/20080608082734/http://www.magicboxmusic.com/virtualresume/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 This was probably discussed pages and pages ago last year, but didn't Williams give Music Box the only existing demo/recording, which they then lost? @Jay? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,322 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2019 Quote “You’ll be doing the trailers for the biggest franchise in Warner Brothers History, and by the way, here’s a recording of John Williams’ new theme that you have to use”. Two days later when our DAT machine ate the master tape of this recording we thought our career was over. As it turned out, this would be the first of a continuing saga of trailers that would keep us busy for the next 7 years and counting. https://web.archive.org/web/20100715222353/http://magicboxmusic.com/virtualresume/details.php?id=HPTSS&popup=y Arpy, TSMefford and bollemanneke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 That's very illuminating, but I still don't get it. Do they mean that they got the entire trailer recording from JW and then had to write a little intro to that? Why couldn't JW have done it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 He fell asleep. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 He means they got a recording of JW's theme and then they adapted it into their trailer music after ruining the master tape, because why wouldn't you give the master tape to some trailer music guys rather than a copy. bollemanneke and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Copy and Paste didn't exist until 2002. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Yeah, yesterday I was listening to the HP1 interview with MM again and he was talking about how they couldn't pick and choose bars from different takes in the old days. It must have been hell. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Jay said: https://web.archive.org/web/20100715222353/http://magicboxmusic.com/virtualresume/details.php?id=HPTSS&popup=y Thanks Jay. That’s the quote I was trying to track down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I just found the shawm cue! https://open.spotify.com/track/2ZsUbbb9ahWxWBtJooxBRq?si=sXQc4jZlQhiRlZE3yc5zSw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Are you serious or joking? I don't have Spotify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I'm assuming it's this, and thus a joke. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Haha... I'm definitely not including that in my HP3 edit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oierem 151 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I have a question about the first score. In the Invisibility Cloak/Library scene is significantly longer than the whole cue: the music matches the scene perfectly until the moment when Harry sees Snape and Quirrell. In the movie, the music is looped and tracked for this moment, then continues with the original cue. But it doesn't seem that the edit is replacing any section of the cue. In other words, it seems that Williams scored a version of the scene without the Quirrell/Snape conversation. Am I correct? TheUlyssesian and DolceMecha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 That's an interesting theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, oierem said: I have a question about the first score. In the Invisibility Cloak/Library scene is significantly longer than the whole cue: the music matches the scene perfectly until the moment when Harry sees Snape and Quirrell. In the movie, the music is looped and tracked for this moment, then continues with the original cue. But it doesn't seem that the edit is replacing any section of the cue. In other words, it seems that Williams scored a version of the scene without the Quirrell/Snape conversation. Am I correct? That, or he left the Quirrell/Snape dialogue unscored, which is a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, redishere said: That, or he left the Quirrell/Snape dialogue unscored, which is a bit weird. Why is that weird? It makes perfect sense. Music - mysterious dialogue in total silence - music again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oierem 151 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Why is that weird? It makes perfect sense. Music - mysterious dialogue in total silence - music again. There's no pause in the original cue. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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