Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Let's settle this once and for all. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,734 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,719 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,362 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Well, in my humble opinion, it ith an objectively bad thcore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 957 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: Well, in my humble opinion, it ith an objectively bad thcore! Then you vote No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,774 Posted January 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2019 I agree with Daffy Duck. SteveMc, Kasey Kockroach and 1977 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,525 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Where's the "It's okay." option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,774 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 In the binary of "Avatar IS a great score," and "Avatar is NOT a great score," saying it's OK is the latter. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,525 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, mstrox said: In the binary of "Avatar IS a great score," and "Avatar is NOT a great score," saying it's OK is the latter. Very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,357 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Great is relative. In my universe, it's good, not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Oh, it's even. Very exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Considering my assembly of the score is over 4 hours long from start to bonuses, and I have no problem listening to the whole damn thing, obviously I fall into the yes, I think it's a great score category. If others don't think it is, the fuck do I care? 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, TSMefford said: Where's the "It's okay." option? Couldn't afford it. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,076 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Absolutely. It's among Horner's very finest. Definitely Top 5, maybe even Top 3. 1977 and JoeinAR 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thor said: Absolutely. It's among Horner's very finest. Definitely Top 5, maybe even Top 3. But is it better than Titanic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: Is it better than Titanic? Apples and Oranges. Might as well compare Aliens in there as well. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,076 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: But is it better than Titanic? As NL says, apples and oranges. They're pretty even on a ranking list to me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 http://filmtracks.com/titles/avatar.html It is a 5 star score. I just was aghast when i say Jurassic worlds hate comments towards the score so much so I had to listen to a portion of the album to cleanse my soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,213 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 So...neither ALIENS nor STAR TREK:II have much in common, musically, with AVATAR. REALLY?????!!!!! That's like saying HOW TO STEAL A MILLION has not much in common wit THE ACCIDENTAL FUCKING TOURIST! Please go away, and never bother the internet, again. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Thor said: As NL says, apples and oranges. They're pretty even on a ranking list to me, though. I had to bring it up when you mentioned your Horner top list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,362 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Normally this is where I’d get my obligatory “John Powell should do Avatar 2” out of the way, but even Ice Age 6 would be less inane than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Richard said: So...neither ALIENS nor STAR TREK:II have much in common, musically, with AVATAR. REALLY?????!!!!! No more or less than Alien has with STTMP or it has with Poltergeist and Twilight Zone. Each composer has his own style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,213 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 "Styre"? More auto text? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: http://filmtracks.com/titles/avatar.html It is a 5 star score. I just was aghast when i say Jurassic worlds hate comments towards the score so much so I had to listen to a portion of the album to cleanse my soul. Hate? I only said "it's not especially good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,362 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I’m styred of this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: Hate? I only said "it's not especially good". Thats hate filled words when you critcize this 5 star score. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Not when I say it. I've listened to the score and enjoyed parts of it, I just didn't find it to be especially good. My main complaints are that it sounds too generic, as many of Horner's late scores do, and not sufficiently developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Richard said: So...neither ALIENS nor STAR TREK:II have much in common, musically, with AVATAR. REALLY?????!!!!! That's like saying HOW TO STEAL A MILLION has not much in common wit THE ACCIDENTAL FUCKING TOURIST! Fuck off, you cunt, and never bother the internet, again. So you're one of those who takes a 10 second long motif and writes off a two hour score for it. NO. Avatar and Titanic (and Aliens) do not have much in common. One minor motif doesn't prove your stupid argument. Look in the mirror when you tell someone to fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 8,076 Posted January 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: Normally this is where I’d get my obligatory “John Powell should do Avatar 2” out of the way, but even Ice Age 6 would be less inane than that. Nah. It should be James Newton Howard. He's been in somewhat of a rut lately with the genre fare, but this might just be the one that inspires back his old form. 90s JNH would be perfect for this. 1977, The Illustrious Jerry and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, NL197 said: So you're one of those who takes a 10 second long motif and writes off a two hour score for it. NO. Avatar and Titanic (and Aliens) do not have much in common. One minor motif doesn't prove your stupid argument. Look in the mirror when you tell someone to fuck off. Richard's being (slightly) ironic, as Brits tend to be, and also funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Listen to Thor, guide you he can. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thor said: 90s JNH would be perfect for this. I fear that's a bygone era for JNH. Sunshine Reger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,362 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I don’t really like JNH in actiony blockbuster mode (except for his Disney contributions). More Village, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 More Signs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,362 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 You still haven't voted, @Warrior of Wet Dreams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,076 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 THE VILLAGE or SIGNS are great scores, but I don't see how they would fit the AVATAR world. But put on something like "Swimming" from WATERWORLD or "The Egg Travels" from DINOSAUR or "The Crystal Chamber" from ATLANTIS, and you'll find the proper heir to the Horner AVATAR sound right there. If he can manage to find that old JNH within him. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I can understand some of the no votes but not Richard and mstrox. They always seem to have good taste. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,734 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, NL197 said: So you're one of those who takes a 10 second long motif and writes off a two hour score for it. NO. Avatar and Titanic (and Aliens) do not have much in common. One minor motif doesn't prove your stupid argument. Look in the mirror when you tell someone to fuck off. I don't think you understood Richard's post at all. He was responding to the filmtracks review that was posted in the post directly before his post; he was not addressing anyone in this thread. His post is directed at Christian Clemmensen, who wrote in the linked filmtracks review: Quote Why Horner seems so inept at conjuring unique chord progressions for his themes is truly baffling, but fortunately his ideas are generally able to be manipulated so well that they suit the emotional needs of multiple contexts. As such, few non-soundtrack collectors in the mainstream will be sitting around scratching their heads over this issue (Berardinelli actually mistakenly compared this score to Star Trek II and Aliens, neither of which having anything much in common musically with Avatar), and Horner at least saves his most unique idea in this score for the film's primary theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Poor Clemmensen. Has he been a member of this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,392 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 It is not a great score. It accompanies a successful James Cameron movie and therefore it is considered more than just a Hans Zimmer rip-off. Musically, it is as interesting as Titanic, but at least it doesn't have the cheesy synths. 23 minutes ago, Thor said: Nah. It should be James Newton Howard. He's been in somewhat of a rut lately with the genre fare, but this might just be the one that inspires back his old form. 90s JNH would be perfect for this. Well, sadly the 2010s JNH is as disposable as anyone else. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 744 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 "War" is pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 War is never great! Except for The Great War... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Zimmer wishes he had the talent to write a score as good as Avatar TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,392 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 He did write better scores than Avatar more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Zimmer wishes he had the talent to write a score as good as Avatar That we can agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Brundlefly said: He did write better scores than Avatar more than once. 😂🤣lol NO zimmer is exceptionally mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,773 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 He's not even good at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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