Miguel Andrade 1,262 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 4:59 PM, Thor said: In terms of other 'star' singers, it's also worth mentioning soprano Kathleen Battle's version of his SEVEN FOR LUCK song cycle. Three of the songs are available in that old interview video (or its bootleg audio rips), but I can't find it on Youtube at the moment. Kathleen Battle never performed Seven for Luck, even though it was written for her. She found the music too difficult and the 1997 premiere was cancelled (it was supposed to have been premiered with Battle accompanied by the National Symphony, Leonard Slatkin conducting.) Williams himself premiered the cycle with Cynthia Haymon and the Boston Symphony. The first performance took place at Tanglewood in the summer of 1998 and Williams expressed desire in recording it. The three songs you mention were performed at a Boston Pops concert ahead of the Tanglewood premiere. They were recorded for a PBS special that also included a conversation between Williams and poet Rita Dove. From what I understand, the cycle, on it's piano reduction is often used at Tanglewood with the vocal fellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 So it's Cynthia Haymon in that PBS video? I always thought it was Kathleen Battle. Ages since I saw it...had it on a DVD-R once, but it's probably on Youtube now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted January 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2019 This one's essential! Sandor, Gruesome Son of a Bitch and crumbs 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miguel Andrade 1,262 Posted January 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Thor said: So it's Cynthia Haymon in that PBS video? I always thought it was Kathleen Battle. Ages since I saw it...had it on a DVD-R once, but it's probably on Youtube now. While I couldn't find the PBS video on-line, I did found a recital featuring six of the seven songs that make up "7 for Luck": The only song missing from the set is "Black on a Saturday Evening". Check the singer's channel and you'll find the rest of the recital (that also includes excerpts from Previn's "Honey and Rue" and Barber's "Knoxville Summer of 1915"). The Lost Folio, SteveMc, Thor and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: The only song missing from the set is "Black on a Saturday Evening Shame 'cause that one has some real fun Williams-isms, including a slick-ass bass line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,262 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Nick Parker said: Shame 'cause that one has some real fun Williams-isms, including a slick-ass bass line. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: While I couldn't find the PBS video on-line, I did found a recital featuring six of the seven songs that make up "7 for Luck": Oooh, fantastic. I've only ever owned the three songs from the PBS video. Any tech savvy people here who can make an audio rip of that and send me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,262 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Thor said: Oooh, fantastic. I've only ever owned the three songs from the PBS video. Any tech savvy people here who can make an audio rip of that and send me? Check your pm later today, will you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 3:50 PM, King Mark said: quick response to thread title: none The man just can not do songs. I'll concede that without the vocals some of them are alright. On 1/12/2019 at 3:50 PM, King Mark said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 You wanna repeat that? Somewhere In My Memory works just fine with vocals, for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 It really doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Bloke 115 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 12:01 PM, Nick Parker said: Crap, I spread misinformation! I misinterpreted a blurb saying it was her swansong. No foul. It happens to the best of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Two songs deserve to be on this list, for completion's sake: "None But the Brave" and "John Goldfarb, Please Come Home!" are the first two songs written from themes composed by John Williams. In the case of "None But the Brave," it was not in the finished film but made the album release as a filler. Not sure if JW had input in the song's creation. As for "John Goldfarb," it is the first official song written by John Williams to be featured in a theatrical film. It's catchy, and kitschy, as sung by Shirley MacLaine. I will be discussing the songs and scores of both films in upcoming episodes of my podcast "The Baton: A John Williams Musical Journey" this month. Link to podcast website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Trumpeteer said: "None But the Brave" and "John Goldfarb, Please Come Home!" are the first two songs written from themes composed by John Williams. In the case of "None But the Brave," it was not in the finished film but made the album release as a filler. Not sure if JW had input in the song's creation. Album? There was no album of NONE BUT THE BRAVE at the time, only a single. Or are you talking about the FSM release? Also, Williams had songs prior to those you mention, if you count TV material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Thor said: Album? There was no album of NONE BUT THE BRAVE at the time, only a single. Or are you talking about the FSM release? Also, Williams had songs prior to those you mention, if you count TV material. I mentioned only theatrical films. I knew there were some songs written for TV but I couldn't find recordings of a lot of them, or note the shows for which they were written. You might be right about that album release. I recall stumbling upon a website listing of the album that had different track names and had the date as 1963 for the album. I can't find that website now. Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 The NONE BUT THE BRAVE title song was released on a '45, but no album was released untill the FSM. Earlier songs (for media) by Williams include the two WAGON TRAIN songs "Golden West" and "Tomorrow", with lyrics by Frederick Herbert. You'll find them both in "The Jenny Tannen Story", at 1:20 and 29:00 here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 Now that we finally have the songs from Hook, I think Believe -even in its raw form- should make the cut, possibly replacing When You’re Alone. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 My issue with When you're Alone always was, in the movie it is presented as some kind of sing-along lullaby, that the mother used to sing for the children. But for that kind of tune it really has a complicated melody across how many octaves? Apart from that as a musical number it is very nice. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 My issue with When You're Alone is that I can't hear it without remembering of one of Michael Giacchino's themes from Tomorrowland. And since I heard Tomorrowland before Hook (it simply wasn't a movie from my childhood), my immediate thought is that Williams copied Giacchino (even though the opposite is what happened). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 8 hours ago, GerateWohl said: My issue with When you're Alone always was, in the movie it is presented as some kind of sing-along lullaby, that the mother used to sing for the children. But for that kind of tune it really has a complicated melody across how many octaves? Apart from that as a musical number it is very nice. It's a translation/exaggeration what we are hearing is an embiggening of "what really happened" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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