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A 1964 advertisement for sheet music includes the first line of music of two rare and early Johnny Williams songs, with the mention "Complete Copies at Your Music Dealers." Sadly, none of the two songs show up in any archives that I know, as if they were not actually published, or had a very, very limited print.

 

The first song "Tomorrow" is from the series Wagon Train, but the source of the second song "The Way of a Wand'rer" is a mystery! It was entered for copyright on 15 Nov 1962 and it is advertised as a publication from Hawaii Music Company, possibly connecting it with Diamond Head... Could it be a discarded song? Here are the two melodies. Anyone knows what happened to these songs?

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As you say, "Tomorrow" is from WAGON TRAIN (one out of two songs Williams wrote for "The Jenny Tannen Story", the other being "Golden West").

 

We've talked about the "The Way of the Wanderer" before, but right now I can't remember in relation to what. If it was a TV series or film (something in the back of my head says either GENERAL ELECTRIC THEATRE or THE TALES OF WELLS FARGO, but I could be mistaken -- DIAMOND HEAD sounds like a good bet too, given the timestamp and label). I've been unable to find video or audio of this song.

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"Tomorrow" was recorded as part of the Wagon Train LP that came out in 1958. 

(http://www.jw-collection.de/early/wagon.htm)

 

This site lists "The Way of the Wand'rer" as being used on Animal House (though nothing shows up on IMDB's soundrack page from that movie)

http://www.svenskfilmdatabas.se/en/item/?type=film&itemid=5115#soundtrack-listing

 

 

 

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I actually watched ANIMAL HOUSE again tonight. It was far worse than I remembered, I'm sorry to say (not to mention hopelessly outdated and un-PC with contemporary eyes), but there's no shortage of ideas, that's for sure.

 

There was no TV playing in the background, and there's a LOT of source music in it, but I feel fairly confident that it's the music that plays as the Tim Matheson character seduces the dean's wife. There are no lyrics, though, it appears to be an instrumental version. But it's the only source cue in the film that has an exotica/Hawaiian flavour, and it sounds like Williams, so it's probably it. Must be an unused cue/song from DIAMOND HEAD that is not on the soundtrack (would have loved to have the recording they used, whatever it was). Can be heard here from 0:39:

 

 

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Thanks @Thor for watching it for us! But I'm not convinced: this clip from Animal House does not match the published melody. I don't deny a forgotten 1962 song could show up in a 1978 movie - let's believe the soundtrack listing from the database - but it's really surprising. And even if it ends up in Animal House, it does not explain the song's mysterious sources...

 

I'm also not so sure about the Diamond Head connection anymore. The title song was published by Columbia Pictures Music Corporation, not by Hawaii Music Company.

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Might not be it. It was just the most likely candidate, I think. Another candidate is the piano music that is played in one of the early scenes. I can't read notes, so difficult for me to compare. A third candidate is a song that one of the frat guys sings in the staircase, on a guitar, but the lyrics don't match what's in the first post.

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18 hours ago, The Lost Folio said:

I'm also not so sure about the Diamond Head connection anymore. The title song was published by Columbia Pictures Music Corporation, not by Hawaii Music Company.

 

Could also be a song Williams wrote independently of films and TV shows, for album purposes, like "Aunt Orsavella", "Hello", "Augie", "Double Walk", "Tuesday's Theme" (well, sorta independent) and so on.

 

In terms of television, there are several 1962 entries to choose from -- GENERAL ELECTRIC THEATRE, TALES OF WELLS FARGO (both of these, I mentioned earlier), CHECKMATE, ALCOA PREMIERE THEATRE....

 

I have this strange notion it might be a 'cowboy' song from TALES OF WELLS FARGO (if it's not from DIAMOND HEAD), but I need to dig out the few episodes I have to double-check. I'll add the song to the Williams song thread.

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1 hour ago, pixie_twinkle said:

Blimey, did the person who did the typesetting not know how to beam 8th notes? :o

 

This is a common way of writing 8th notes in vocal music: 8th notes are detached when they set different syllables.

 

4 hours ago, Thor said:

 

Could also be a song Williams wrote independently of films and TV shows, for album purposes, like "Aunt Orsavella", "Hello", "Augie", "Double Walk", "Tuesday's Theme" (well, sorta independent) and so on.

 

In terms of television, there are several 1962 entries to choose from -- GENERAL ELECTRIC THEATRE, TALES OF WELLS FARGO (both of these, I mentioned earlier), CHECKMATE, ALCOA PREMIERE THEATRE....

 

I have this strange notion it might be a 'cowboy' song from TALES OF WELLS FARGO (if it's not from DIAMOND HEAD), but I need to dig out the few episodes I have to double-check. I'll add the song to the Williams song thread.

 

So many possibilities!! I'll try to watch Animal House soon to check if any of the music matches the "published" melody. But then, unless we watch a bunch of 1962 TV, we might not find out until the sheet music shows up in some archive...

 

It's interesting that, apart from "America... the Dream Goes On", none of the songs you listed as "Other" in your thread were recorded at the time of their composition. I demand a list of Williams' failed projects!! 🤓

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55 minutes ago, The Lost Folio said:

It's interesting that, apart from "America... the Dream Goes On", none of the songs you listed as "Other" in your thread were recorded at the time of their composition. I demand a list of Williams' failed projects!! 🤓

 

That's a good point. Even THOMAS AND THE KING was recorded for album several years later.

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