Mission: Impossible 7 & 8

[Jay 43,886]

Christopher McQuarrie Closes Deal to Direct Back-to-Back ‘Mission: Impossible’ Films

 

Coming summer 2021 and summer 2022.

 

Bring back Kraemer! 

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well if he brings back Balfe we know all his talk about each film having a different style is bullshit

 

[Koray Savas 2,255]

McQuarrie never spoke about subsequent films. He said he wanted Fallout, specifically, to be different than Rogue Nation. 

[Mr. Who 1,030]

This is awesome! Mi6 was the best film so far.

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1 hour ago, Koray Savas said:

McQuarrie never spoke about subsequent films. He said he wanted Fallout, specifically, to be different than Rogue Nation. 

I can't find the exact quote, but when Balfe was confirmed, McQuarrie made a big deal on twitter posts about the fact that he didn't bring Kraemer back because every MI film had a different director up to that point and every MI film felt different stylistically, and he wanted to maintain that  - and that was the only reason he changed composers.  So yes, if he brings back Balfe for another film, that means his excuse for not bringing back Kraemer was not true.  Because everyone knows Kraemer AND Balfe could change styles as needed from film to film - it's part of the job of being a film composer.  

 

Koray, I know you love Balfe and I know you love McQuarrie and you don't like Kraemer, so I fully expect you to come up with another reason why what I'm saying is somehow not true...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

But don't we already know why he didn't bring back Kraemer?

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30 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

But don't we already know why he didn't bring back Kraemer?

But Steef, we must argue about something!  ;-)

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

1 hour ago, elvisjones said:

Because everyone knows Kraemer AND Balfe could change styles as needed from film to film - it's part of the job of being a film composer.  

 

Except that Balfe's "music" will always sound bland.

 

1 hour ago, Stefancos said:

But don't we already know why he didn't bring back Kraemer?

 

Because Kraemer made a pass at his wife?

[toothless 1,023]

Rogue nation is one of my favorite MI movie while Fallout is the one I almost fell asleep watching it, despite it being shot 1km from where I live. The music certainly did not help. I have NOTHING against balfe. I juste Prefere Kraemer style.

Somehow, It would not surprise me if this ended up with Zimmer.

[Jay 43,886]

I don't use Twitter, but if I did I'd start a #BringBackKraemer hashtag and try to get it used anytime anyone discusses the upcoming films

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

I'm sure you'll be allowed to register for an account if you ask politely.

 

Anyway, doesn't JWFan have a Twitter account?

[Sweeping Strings 3,029]

I wish the Bond producers had their shit together to the extent the M:I ones do. 

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

At least they haven't hired Balfe.

[Sweeping Strings 3,029]

With Mendes not directing the next one, doubtful that Newman would make it 3 in a row. Maybe Arnold can be tempted back. 

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,360]

I'm hoping for Kraemer. I prefer his style.

 

But at the same time, Balfe was either praised or downright loathed for Fallout. Not sure what happened there.

[Naïve Old Fart 12,147]

#makedepalmaandelfmangreatagain

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,360]

Would we want to see someone like Powell or Giacchino do this over Balfe?

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

52 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said:

Give the guy a break some talent! 

 

Fixed!

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,360]

I doubt Balfe will take this project. He's probably too busy making dinner for Hans these days.

[Mr. Who 1,030]

I think Kraemer might be scoring the new Doctor Who Spinoff series. He made a comment about it on Twitter.

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,360]

Honestly, considering how much people "loved" Balfe's score to Fallout, I'd be guessing that he's coming back. Although I'm hoping for Kraemer.

[Koray Savas 2,255]

11 hours ago, elvisjones said:

I can't find the exact quote, but when Balfe was confirmed, McQuarrie made a big deal on twitter posts about the fact that he didn't bring Kraemer back because every MI film had a different director up to that point and every MI film felt different stylistically, and he wanted to maintain that  - and that was the only reason he changed composers.  So yes, if he brings back Balfe for another film, that means his excuse for not bringing back Kraemer was not true.  Because everyone knows Kraemer AND Balfe could change styles as needed from film to film - it's part of the job of being a film composer.  

 

Koray, I know you love Balfe and I know you love McQuarrie and you don't like Kraemer, so I fully expect you to come up with another reason why what I'm saying is somehow not true...

No, I actually agree with your post, if that’s what McQuarrie said. I don’t remember the exact quote either.

 

And I probably like Kraemer more than most here. 

[Jay 43,886]

I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure Koray is the only other person on JWFan besides me who loves the Jack Reacher score!

[Mr. Who 1,030]

Jack Reacher is a good score!

 

I read an interview with Kraemer where he spoke about Jack Reacher and McQuarrie and this quote kind of makes sense, considering the Mission Impossible situation.

 

"I’ve gotten a sense over the years of what Chris likes, and I would gravitate towards those types of chords and gestures, such as the low, brassy crescendos.  The main musical idea behind the score is a pivot between C# and A, two major chords which somehow in combination create a bit of a minor-key feeling."

 

The quote made me think of the low brass swells on MI Fallout...

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

26 minutes ago, Jay said:

I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure Koray is the only other person on JWFan besides me who loves the Jack Reacher score!

 

It's okay.

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54 minutes ago, Koray Savas said:

No, I actually agree with your post, if that’s what McQuarrie said. I don’t remember the exact quote either.

 

And I probably like Kraemer more than most here. 

I take back what I said, then...sorry.   

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,360]

I have decided to revisit Kraemer's score to Rogue Nation. I should hope for him to score one if not both of these MI films. If not I'd be content with Giacchino and non-partial to Balfe. 

[Jay 43,886]

McQuarrie has no history of working with Giacchino.

It'll be Balfe, or someone else from the Zimmer crowd, unless McQuarrie comes to his senses and patches things up with Kraemer

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,360]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

McQuarrie has no history of working with Giacchino.

Everything is unprecedented until it happens for the first time

 

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

It'll be Balfe, or someone else from the Zimmer crowd, unless McQuarrie comes to his senses and patches things up with Kraemer

Yes, I understand that those are the probable outcomes.

[Marian Schedenig 10,832]

If he wants Balfe, McQuarrie can just reuse the Fallout score. That was the same droning ostinato background noise for 2 hours, so I wouldn't expect a second score to sound any different.

[Jay 43,886]

[Koray Savas 2,255]

6 hours ago, Jay said:

I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure Koray is the only other person on JWFan besides me who loves the Jack Reacher score!

I would love for him to tackle some big IPs. Happy for Ryan Shore, but hopefully he gets a Star Wars property one of these years. 

[Jay 43,886]

Wait, what does Ryan Shore have to do with anything we're talking about? 

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I think because Ryan Shore scores a lot of Star Wars tv stuff, but it would be nice if Joe Kraemer got a shot at Star Wars too?

[Jay 43,886]

Oh, the "he" in that last sentence referred to Kraemer? I get it now. I literally had no idea Shore had scored anything Star Wars related. Not really my franchise since the 90s. 

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,360]

Balfe writes a score. Zimmer gets credit. Zimmer gets bashed.

 

Balfe writes a score. Balfe gets credit. Balfe gets bashed.

[thestat 496]

Balfe is what in the 80s you might have called a TV composer. He has skills to get the job done but no imagination on anything. There'll be a few live bongos in the next film, a lot of supposedly live brass that sounds exactly like my keyboard, and no imagination. That's the seemingly Chris Nolan way they want to go here. But if McQuarrie and Cruise are sticking to their mandate on making every film different, well how about (they are not going to go full Lathimos whatever), trying the Jeremy Dyson way, and go for Frank Ilfman. How about being more creative, Mansell has burned his bridges but still does excellent music but how about Richter, he can do anything, or even a Murray Gold.

 

 

[Koray Savas 2,255]

It helps that Balfe can churn out an entire score faster than anyone in the industry. 

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2 hours ago, Koray Savas said:

It helps that Balfe can churn out an entire score faster than anyone in the industry. 

Well, Balfe’s team can....

 

notice all the additional music credits on MI6 vs MI5...

 

 

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

Anyway, Desplat is even faster.

[toothless 1,023]

8 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Desplat

 

Actually, I'd be interested in that

[Jay 43,886]

Hayley Atwell Confirms Lead Role In Mission: Impossible 7 & 8

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Tom casts his female leads very well

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

Now we just need a new Tom Cruise.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

Tom Cruise could still be immortal!

[Jurassic Shark 15,564]

His use of botox and filler is starting to show...

[Yavar Moradi 3,939]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Hayley Atwell Confirms Lead Role In Mission: Impossible 7 & 8

 

I'm in.

 

Yavar

[Disco Stu 15,514]

If he hires Balfe again we’ll know McQuarrie’s excuse for not having Kraemer return for Fallout was BS

[Jay 43,886]

On 1/15/2019 at 12:13 AM, elvisjones said:

well if he brings back Balfe we know all his talk about each film having a different style is bullshit

 

 

[Disco Stu 15,514]

3 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

who?