Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Does an "expanded" release exclude a score that would typically be an "encore" release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I don't understand your question. Can you reword it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 "encore" release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 They say this batch will include the last Encore title. But I guess that doesn't exclude any old scores from getting the expanded treatment in the future of the new and updated Varese Sarabande. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Stefancos said: "encore" release? Yes. Like: https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/a-show-of-force-varese-encore https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/heathers-varese-encore https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/stand-and-deliver-varese-encore https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/the-black-cauldron-encore-edition https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/zelly-and-me-varese-encore https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/the-whales-of-august https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/spies-like-us-varese-encore https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/where-the-river-runs-black For example. 10 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Does an "expanded" release exclude a score that would typically be an "encore" release? 8 minutes ago, Jay said: I don't understand your question. Can you reword it? 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: They say this batch will include the last Encore title. But I guess that doesn't exclude any old scores from getting the expanded treatment. I'm sorry, I still don't understand what you're saying/asking. He (whoever is controller their Facebook account now) is saying they are dropping the Encore line and then specifically says they are focusing on expansions moving forward. The Encore line only existed for cases where no additional material to expand could be found or licensed, so any old title that has more material in the vaults that can be licensed can certainly still be expanded. Not sure if that answers your concerns or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jay said: The Encore line only existed for cases where no additional material to expand could be found or licensed, so any old title that has more material in the vaults that can be licensed can certainly still be expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Encore is just a reissue of a previous title from the Club release, It could easily be a reissue of Deluxe Edition. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Not true, sometimes they were reissues of OSTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I'd take a reissue of their Ghostbusters club release. A GIRL CAN DREAM!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: They say this batch will include the last Encore title. But I guess that doesn't exclude any old scores from getting the expanded treatment in the future of the new and updated Varese Sarabande. Well, Varese released an Encore version of Chinatown and not long after Intrada released the expanded programme. Karol Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Well, Varese released an Encore version of Chinatown and not long after Intrada released the expanded programme. Karol It was at least 2-3 years after, and curiously Varese did not label their Chinatown Club reissue an "Encore Edition" (maybe this was before that line began?) Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Chinatown actually came out in the same batch as their first ENCORE titles: 2012-05-14 David Navarro (Conducter) - Alien: A Biomechanical Symphony (1135 - 3,000)2012-05-14 Alan Silvestri - Clan Of The Cave Bear (1134 - 1,000) (ENCORE Series) [SOLD OUT]2012-05-14 Elmer Bernstein - Amazing Grace and Chuck (1133 - 1,000) (ENCORE Series) [Fewer than 50 copies as of Dec 2012]2012-05-14 Miklos Rozsa - Eye Of The Needle (1132 - 1,000) (ENCORE Series) [SOLD OUT]2012-05-14 Bill Conti - The Karate Kid Part III (1131 - 1,000) [SOLD OUT]2012-05-14 Lyn Murray, Leonard Rosenman, Lalo Schifrin, and Benny Carter - The Alfred Hitchcock Hour Volume 3 (1130 - 1,000) [SOLD OUT]2012-05-14 Jerry Goldsmith - Chinatown (1129 - 3,000) Intrada's edition was almost exactly 4 years later 2016-05-17 Bruce Broughton - Homeward Bound II: Lost In San Francisco (ISC354 - limited) 2016-05-17 Jerry Goldsmith - Chinatown (ISC350 - limited) Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Amer said: Encore is just a reissue of a previous title from the Club release, It could easily be a reissue of Deluxe Edition. That's true but I think it only happened once where a Deluxe Edition was encored (and given the "Encore Edition" branding): Goldsmith's Runaway. Usually it's been a reissue of the original album, sometimes to people's dismay (folks were recently frustrated that Varese Encored Delerue's A Show of Force rather than expanding it with the missing 14 minutes). Yavar Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Yea I believe Runaway is the only exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Chinatown actually came out in the same batch as their first ENCORE titles: 2012-05-14 David Navarro (Conducter) - Alien: A Biomechanical Symphony (1135 - 3,000)2012-05-14 Alan Silvestri - Clan Of The Cave Bear (1134 - 1,000) (ENCORE Series) [SOLD OUT]2012-05-14 Elmer Bernstein - Amazing Grace and Chuck (1133 - 1,000) (ENCORE Series) [Fewer than 50 copies as of Dec 2012]2012-05-14 Miklos Rozsa - Eye Of The Needle (1132 - 1,000) (ENCORE Series) [SOLD OUT]2012-05-14 Bill Conti - The Karate Kid Part III (1131 - 1,000) [SOLD OUT]2012-05-14 Lyn Murray, Leonard Rosenman, Lalo Schifrin, and Benny Carter - The Alfred Hitchcock Hour Volume 3 (1130 - 1,000) [SOLD OUT]2012-05-14 Jerry Goldsmith - Chinatown (1129 - 3,000) Thanks; I do remember now thinking at the time, "Why isn't Chinatown also an 'Encore Edition'?" Perhaps because it was a licensed title rather than a Varese-controlled (originally issued on Varese) one? It was also inexplicable to me why Varese didn't produce a Deluxe Edition of Eye of the Needle with both their German album recording and the (far superior) Royal Philharmonic film recording. 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Yea I believe Runaway is the only exception I hope for everyone without a copy that Jerry's amazing score for The 'Burbs is the second exception. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: That's true but I think it only happened once where a Deluxe Edition was encored (and given the "Encore Edition" branding): Goldsmith's Runaway. Usually it's been a reissue of the original album, sometimes to people's dismay (folks were recently frustrated that Varese Encored Delerue's A Show of Force rather than expanding it with the missing 14 minutes). That means they will focus on expansions instead of reissues, which is truly awesome news! Hopefully the last Varese Encore is The Burbs for all those poor bastards who don't own a copy, unless they don't label reissues of expansions as Varese Encore. 25 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: I hope for everyone without a copy that Jerry's amazing score for The 'Burbs is the second exception. Agreed, just think of the fact that there are only 5500 people in the world that own a (official) copy of that outstanding comedy score! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Fewer than that, because many people (maybe the majority?) who purchased the original Club release no doubt also bought the expansion... Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 No doubt, this score has no chance to get more popular, with no digital release and just a handful of CDs. Even if it was just the OST, it just needs a release of any kind. It was the same with Dracula and it is the same with Lionheart. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 hours ago, mstrox said: I'd take a reissue of their Ghostbusters club release. A GIRL CAN DREAM!!!! I sold mine years ago for $30 when MV hinted that they were releasing both scores. It could have been yours! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 How 'bout a little music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Koray Savas said: I sold mine years ago for $30 when MV hinted that they were releasing both scores. It could have been yours! I sold mine for $85! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I wanted to move it quick before a potential reissue announcement devalued it completely. Typically I like to recoup my costs plus a small bit of profit. I was able to sell my deluxe edition of The Fury for about $90 before LLL made Varese's edition obsolete. Ollie and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 So what happens to Eiger Sanction and Earthquake if they don't release them in this last batch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Varese never owned Eiger Sanction and Earthquake in perpetuity so nothing changes whatsoever. Any label could license them. 1977 and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Those scores will still be as bad as they've always been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I hope they release some film scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, King Mark said: So what happens to Eiger Sanction and Earthquake if they don't release them in this last batch? 22 minutes ago, Jay said: Varese never owned Eiger Sanction and Earthquake in perpetuity so nothing changes whatsoever. Any label could license them. Also, it's not really the last batch, is it? The latest announcement clearly says: "We're thrilled to announce our 1st of 3 CD Club batches for 2019!". It's just the last batch Robert Townson has been involved in, I guess. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Absolutely correct. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 They even say that there will be more expansions. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 10 am PST?! Fuck, I have to wait till the European evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Brundlefly said: 10 am PST?! Fuck, I have to wait till the European evening! Pour yourself a glass of Sauvignon Blanc, sit out on the veranda and watch the sunset while you wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I live in a valley, I can't see the sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Then wait until the stars appear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, JTWfan77 said: Then wait until the stars appear... It's quite foggy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I'm sure someone at JWFan will volunteer to make you see stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I won't pay the costs to travel to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Robocop 2: The Deluxe Edition Leonard Rosenman $ 19.98 Dreamcatcher: The Deluxe Edition James Newton Howard $ 19.98 Raggedy Man (Varèse Encore) Jerry Goldsmith $ 15.98 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Damn, these aren't going to be around for long... Terrific titles, but so few units. Hope they last the weekend otherwise I'll miss out. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Nice that Townson got to work on Robocop 2 before leaving, but it's a bummer he never got around to Air Force One. Hopefully the people in charge now will finally prioritize it. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just RoboCop 2 for me. My wallet is grateful. Hey it might be even below the customs rate. Karol publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jay said: Nice that Townson got to work on Robocop 2 before leaving, but it's a bummer he never got around to Air Force One. Hopefully the people in charge now will finally prioritize it. Co-produced by Neil too! Pity i hate the score of I would have gotten it Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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publicist 4,643 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, crocodile said: Just RoboCop 2 for me. My wallet is grateful. I dig that thing. It's fun and idiosyncratic. 1977 and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I ordered all 3 titles. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 384 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: Robocop 2: The Deluxe Edition Leonard Rosenman YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 OST for Robocop 2 was always good enough for me, but I'll wait and see what the response is to the expansion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Raggedy Man! One more ex-hole in my Goldsmith collection! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Well, nothing for me so my wallet is safe, but happy for those who've been waiting for one or all of these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, publicist said: I dig that thing. It's fun and idiosyncratic. It's manure! Very fitting considering the film it was written for is even viler than manure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 More for the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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