Marian Schedenig 8,153 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: The one done for the gigantic Yo-Yo Ma box, also released individually. I don't think I even knew about that. Is there a reliable review comparing the sound of the two releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 The plot thickens... How does one distinguish between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: I don't think I even knew about that. Is there a reliable review comparing the sound of the two releases? I can rip it for you and share, if you do the same with the original release. The Geisha OST was also remastered for the same box, and released individually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 'Fraid I can't. Copyright and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: The plot thickens... How does one distinguish between them? Do you mean physically? Date of release. 2 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: 'Fraid I can't. Copyright and all. That one was for Marian. I'm aware of your impeccable standards. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 The remastered one is $10 on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007K7ICLA/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Do you mean physically? Date of release. I see it is clearly stated at the bottom of the inlay card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,153 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I can rip it for you and share, if you do the same with the original release. Thanks, but no need for either of us: A friend has compared them and says they're identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Thanks, but no need for either of us: A friend has compared them and says they're identical. I don't know what kind of comparison your friend did, but I've compared one of the tracks earlier and can say their frequency spectrums are not identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,153 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I don't know what kind of comparison your friend did, but I've compared one of the tracks earlier and can say their frequency spectrums are not identical. Well, not binary-identical, apparently. But he sent me a FLAC of the first track, and they indeed seem to sound the same. If there's any noticeable difference at all, the overall sound characteristics haven't changed. What this needs is a remix, not a remaster. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Well, that pretty much knocked off the rest of our wish list forever, and the ultimate dick move by Sony after denying us the Star Wars scores properly expanded for 2 decades So what important unexpanded Williams scores are left that aren't Sony aside from Star Wars? Again this makes the case to ALWAYS download leaked sessions and store them preciously . I'm 100% happy with Hook is you replace some LLL tracks with the leaked sessions and make a banquet insert edit from the old Concorde boot (ironically it's only bit that sounds perfect on that boot) For the rest: Seven Years in Tibet,Angela's Ashes,Book Thief ,War Horse ,Lincoln, and The Post have almost no unreleased music if you count the Oscar Promos. Biggest loss is The Patriot andTintin ...#1 and #2 on my wish list after Star Wars and Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Disney holds the rights to Star Wars now. So don't count it out of the Prequels getting proper treatments. We still might get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 There's no chance of a label like LLL or Intrada releasing those any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 The prequels are better than everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Star Trek is better than everything. Fixed! Trent B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Titanic = Star Trek = Ghostbusters = Psycho Franchise = Star Wars PT = Masters of the Universe (1987) = ID4/Godzilla (1998) > Everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 As disappointing as this news is, I'm happy we got what we got when we got it. Imagine if this had happened ten years ago. No expansions of ST: TMP (other than the 20th anniversary one), ST V, Hook (flawed as it may be), Home Alone, First Knight, Titanic, LLL CE3K, 1941 and countless others. Fortunately Universal (film studio) seems to have a new impetus to get their stuff out there so the labels can focus their energies on mining that back catalogue at a faster pace than would have been the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Why does the LLL release of ID4 cite Sony Music on the back cover? The OST was an RCA/BMG release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 09/02/2019 at 1:33 AM, dougie said: Why does the LLL release of ID4 cite Sony Music on the back cover? The OST was an RCA/BMG release. Sony owns BMG, who in turn used to own the RCA label along with Arista, Scotti Bros. and many others. In 2004, Sony and Bertelsmann established a 50-50 joint venture known as Sony BMG Music Entertainment, which transferred the businesses of Sony Music and Bertelsmann Music Group into one entity. However, in 2008, Sony acquired Bertelsmann's stake, and the company reverted to the SME name shortly after; the buyout allowed Sony to acquire all of BMG's labels, and led to the dissolution of BMG, which instead relaunched as BMG Rights Management. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Music (sorry for citing Wikipedia, I know it's not really a scholarly source) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Well I doubt you'd find that info in Encyclopedia Britannica or Microsoft Encarta. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,334 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Trent B said: Disney holds the rights to Star Wars now. So don't count it out of the Prequels getting proper treatments. We still might get them. I thought MM had said in London that SW (and Indy) were in the works? Do we honestly think people like MM didn't know about this Sony issue before we found out? I'm sure people took precautions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 49 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I thought MM had said in London that SW (and Indy) were in the works? Do we honestly think people like MM didn't know about this Sony issue before we found out? I'm sure people took precautions. It's impossible to say. Sony probably made the decision and sent out the letters without any of the boutique labels being aware that things were brewing. I don't think this will have any impact on potential future SW or Indy releases. Sony was itself a licencee of SW music. Worst case is they may neglect to send whatever materials they hold back to LF (a la Polygram and the SW Anthology box). Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,334 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Right, but we also still don't know whether they made this decision because they're just tired of bothering with soundtrack expansions, or because they got a little excited about boutique label's revenues and wanted to earn the money themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 7,973 Posted February 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: I thought MM had said in London that SW (and Indy) were in the works? Do we honestly think people like MM didn't know about this Sony issue before we found out? I'm sure people took precautions. When asked specifically about SW he said like this: "Judging by what has been happening in the past few years...what do you think? I'm having conversations with them about it". Karol 1977, Dr. Rick and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Right, but we also still don't know whether they made this decision because they're just tired of bothering with soundtrack expansions, or because they got a little excited about boutique label's revenues and wanted to earn the money themselves. They barely break even on most releases, let alone make substantial profits. I highly doubt Sony gives two shits about the film score market. Yavar Moradi and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 What do they care about a few freaks on the internet who listen to background music from movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 244 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 21 hours ago, King Mark said: Biggest loss is The Patriot andTintin ...#1 and #2 on my wish list after Star Wars and Indy Wait, The Patriot isn't Sony right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 It isn't owned by Sony Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 King Mark can't read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 oh...well that's good if Patriot can be expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 How did The Patriot, a Columbia film, avoid the Sony soundtrack release grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 The Patriot was released by Hollywood Records, which is owned by Disney... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, dougie said: How did The Patriot, a Columbia film, avoid the Sony soundtrack release grip? Lots of films released by a Sony owned film studio had their OSTs come out on a music label that wasn't owned by Sony. And conversely, the Sony music label released plenty of soundtracks to films that were made by non-Sony film studios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I know, but other Columbia/TriStar movies aren't so lucky to have a score that found a non-Sony music label. We need to know how The Patriot managed to dodge that one. Edit: there's no way you could type faster than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 so Patriot is safe or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Seemingly safe. I guess we'll know by the end of next year if it was caught up with this stupid decision (the 20th Anniversary milestone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Imagine the uproar if it was some Harald Kloser score. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 It's not as good as ID4 or Godzilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Or David Arnold's theme to The Visitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, Ghostbusters II said: It's not as good as ID4 or Godzilla Does everything always have to be compared? Can't they all be good, just different from one another? And yes I like them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,334 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 21 hours ago, crumbs said: They barely break even on most releases, let alone make substantial profits. I highly doubt Sony gives two shits about the film score market. Um, if they barely make money from a release, why are they still in business? also, we could do with a list of every OST Sony Music released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, bollemanneke said: Um, if they barely make money from a release, why are they still in business You don't become a soundtrack producer or start a niche label because it will make you loads of money. Its an incredible small, niche market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,334 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Oh I know that, but it must be of SOME profit to them, right? I mean, they wouldn't do this if it made them worse off, would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Well, Tadlow owner James Fitzgerald has often said that producing albums for his label is an expensive hobby and that he can only afford to do so because of his other business ventures. I'm sure producers like Mike M. do fine, but its an unpredictable, freelance industry. They also do other things apart from soundtrack production. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: also, we could do with a list of every OST Sony Music released. Okay, give me five minutes and I'll whip one up Not bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 All the sudden, it seems so relieving that Disney fully owns the rights of every bit of Indiana Jones and Star Wars. Someone said that the lost Hook reels were found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Disney has been doing a bang-up job with the Star Wars scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,334 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: All the sudden, it seems so relieving that Disney fully owns the rights of every bit of Indiana Jones and Star Wars. Someone said that the lost Hook reels were found. Who said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 A little bit of good news from Roger (Intrada forums):Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 Hoping Intrada will give us some good news re titles that "made it through" in time Roger's reply:We have two that are still green lit, but the studio side has been a bit slammed so we're still waiting for clearance on that side to get going. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 That's encouraging news, so two Intrada releases and two LLL releases still to come. No word from Varese (I think Reivers would come via that label?) Fingers crossed Hook, a few Horner titles, and some other grails made it in time. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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