KK 3251 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Isaac, Zimmer, Batista, Villeneuve, ... where are the surprises? The outside the box thinking? Well, something has to pull in audiences, and I doubt the source material is going to do any of that... JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2190 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, Knox Harrington said: Christ, the dead horse beating that a few people here do is kind of pathetic and totally drags the place down. You'd think it was 2004 again. I haven’t checked the Discord in awhile. Anything interesting going on over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4232 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Don't know. Deleted my account there. Just wasn't on much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 542 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm not THAT big a Zimmer fan, but I've got nothing against him, and when of his scores lands with me it tends to land big. Interstellar, Inception, the Batman scores, Blade Runner 2049; those are all terrific. Something tells me he's going to knock this one out of the park; and since Dune is my all-time favorite novel, that means I'm suddenly even more excited than I already was for this movie. And that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3807 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, KK said: Well, something has to pull in audiences, and I doubt the source material is going to do any of that... Well, the replacement of Johannsson with Zimmer didn't suddenly turn BR 2049 into a big hit either, so Villeneuve should stick to his artistic guns, that is, if he has any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2308 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Nothing against Zimmer, but I would like to see such great directors as Christopher Nolan and Denis Villeneuve collaborating with other interesting composers: Vangelis (Blade Runner) Peter Gabriel (The Last Temptation of Christ) John Murphy (28 Days Later) Elliot Goldenthal (Alien 3) Christopher Young (Hellraiser) Trevor Jones (From Hell) Howard Shore (Crash) Cliff Martinez (Only God Forgives) Any of these would offer a very fresh range of sound, if only they had the chance to be part of one of these movies more often. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Hans Zimmer IS the Kwisatz Haderach! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 542 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I kinda like the Toto score for the Lynch movie. It's better than it has any right to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5569 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Hopefully this movie will allow Hans to explore some new musical avenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5812 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said: I kinda like the Toto score for the Lynch movie. It's better than it has any right to be. It's superb! Bryant Burnette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Knox Harrington said: Who would have been a more interesting, fitting, and most importantly, realistic choice in your estimation? I don't think my preferences are very realistic, I admit that. But I still wish he went beyond the predictable for someone else. I am tired of Zimmer automatically being the go-to man for your promising blockbuster. Goldenthal would have certainly been up there among my top choices, but I admit, it is not very realistic. Same with Brian Eno and Cliff Martinez (he is more realistic than Eno) if it is an electronic score, I tend to prefer their more ambient sounds over Zimmer who is usually more bombastic. Shore in more alternative/experimental mode or Newman (who doesn't seem like a good fit on paper, but who usually delivers) would also interest me far more than Zimmer. 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Nothing against Zimmer, but I would like to see such great directors as Christopher Nolan and Denis Villeneuve collaborating with other interesting composers: Vangelis (Blade Runner) Peter Gabriel (The Last Temptation of Christ) John Murphy (28 Days Later) Elliot Goldenthal (Alien 3) Christopher Young (Hellraiser) Trevor Jones (From Hell) Howard Shore (Crash) Cliff Martinez (Only God Forgives) Any of these would offer a very fresh range of sound, if only they had the chance to be part of one of these movies more often. I agree with some of these, especially Goldenthal, Shore and Martinez. Maybe Vangelis too, but he is almost retired now. Gabriel would interest me too, at least if he could deliver something like Christ again. I prefer Zimmer over Murphy, Young and Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3251 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Well, the replacement of Johannsson with Zimmer didn't suddenly turn BR 2049 into a big hit either, so Villeneuve should stick to his artistic guns, that is, if he has any. I was referring to the all-star cast. No way studios would have let Villeneuve get away with a bunch of unknowns. But yea, I'm curious to see how they're going to sell this to audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3649 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 18 hours ago, Knox Harrington said: Christ, the dead horse beating that a few people here do is kind of pathetic and totally drags the place down. You'd think it was 2004 again. Of course it's not. Obviously it is 2005. The third Star Wars film is coming out in 2 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1853 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 22 hours ago, KK said: Well, something has to pull in audiences, and I doubt the source material is going to do any of that... You don't need the internet to know Dune has always been a terrible book and Frank Herbert might possibly be as bad or worse than GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2068 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 It's my all time favorite book, but I might just have lousy taste JoeinAR and Bryant Burnette 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 542 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 You don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3807 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Romão said: It's my all time favorite book ... Then you'll probably know it will never translate into a good movie. Favorite books rarely do ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9361 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 22 hours ago, Incanus said: Hopefully this movie will allow Hans to explore some new musical avenues. Yeah, it's about time he starts moving away from sound design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5812 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Then you'll probably know it will never translate to a good movie. Favorite books rarely do ... My favourite book is THE SHINING, and when I subsequently saw the movie, I was impressed by how good it was, and how close it was to my experience reading it. The LOTR adaptations aren't too shabby either, even though many claimed it was unfilmable. So this is perfectly doable. I've never read DUNE (my first exposure to this universe was actually the computer games in the 90s), but its 'gung ho' film history (the Jodorowsky project, the Lynch film) tells me it's something out of the ordinary; not your run-of-the-mill space opera (spice opera?). Needs visionary filmmakers, so I'm confident it's in good hands. Whether he succeeds or not, remains to be seen. Musically, it also calls for something other than your standard 'sci fi/fantasy' orchestral sound in the neoromantic tradition. Pink Floyd was supposed to have done the Jodorowsky film, Toto did the Lynch and Graeme Revell did a wonderful 'world music' score for the series. It would have been cool if they had attempted a similar 'import' approach for this film, but Hans Zimmer is about the closest you can get among film score specialists -- especially since Vangelis is retired. Bryant Burnette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2068 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Then you'll probably know it will never translate to a good movie. Favorite books rarely do ... I think it is the visual representation of several of the concepts and scenes of the book, the world building by Villeneuve and his team, let's say, that excites me the most. To make this world feel tangible. Hopefully it will work dramatically as well. Bryant Burnette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31072 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Is this Zimmer's original score, or generic trailer stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5812 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Sounds rather 'thin' to be Zimmer. But I didn't know the first trailer was out tomorrow. Looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1259 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I don't put any stock in trailer music. No way of knowing if it's going to be used in the film. On 3/20/2019 at 3:22 AM, Thor said: Musically, it also calls for something other than your standard 'sci fi/fantasy' orchestral sound in the neoromantic tradition. Pink Floyd was supposed to have done the Jodorowsky film, Toto did the Lynch and Graeme Revell did a wonderful 'world music' score for the series. It would have been cool if they had attempted a similar 'import' approach for this film, but Hans Zimmer is about the closest you can get among film score specialists -- especially since Vangelis is retired. Totally agree(and Zimmer can certainly do ' world'!) TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31072 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Any new Zimmer score in the full trailer? I haven't watched yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2068 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 At the start it might be Zimmer, but then it segues into a cover of Pink Floyd's Eclipse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3251 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I think everything before the song is probably Zimmer. Though it doesn't give a lot away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 693 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Supposedly, it all has been Hans (the "that reason" being Pink Floyd being the ones who were gonna score Jodorowsky's Dune): Quote It is in fact Hans' arrangement of the song, exactly for that reason. But it also confirms Teaser 1 music was Hans, and that is the most important... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2190 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 A lot of people trashing the arrangement here. I thought it sounded fine 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1643 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 That's unsurprising. As long as Zimmer manages to make two notes sound coherent and vaguely in the ballpark of what could qualify as "music", you will like it. I find it hilarious that it finally reached the point where stock trailer music and Hans Zimmer sitting in anguish at his space rack playing tortured artist, have become indistinguishable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3649 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Hans Zimmer should stick to cashgrab superhero films instead of "big" movies like this. Hiring him is the only big mistake Denis Villeneuve seems to have made thus far. gkgyver and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2190 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, gkgyver said: That's unsurprising. As long as Zimmer manages to make two notes sound coherent and vaguely in the ballpark of what could qualify as "music", you will like it. I didn’t say I liked it, I said it sounded fine. This is trailer music, we will never hear it again. Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1259 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Hans Zimmer should stick to cashgrab superhero films instead of "big" movies like this. Hiring him is the only big mistake Denis Villeneuve seems to have made thus far. " You're a funny guy!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3649 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @bruce marshall what's with all the low quality black and white photos lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1643 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 They're as old and washed out as Zimmer's synths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1259 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: @bruce marshall what's with all the low quality black and white photos lately? I thought. if I posted one EVERY time someone hurls a gratuitous insult at Hans, this might discourage them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8051 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Bollocks, I thought it was generic trailer crap from one of the million generic trailer houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3649 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I thought. if I posted one EVERY time someone hurls a gratuitous insult at Hans, this might discourage them. To be fair, I think he is a lovely man. I just can't stand 95% of his music, and think he is waaay too overused in Hollywood right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5812 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Bruce, Zimmer hatred is so rampant on this forum, not even a thread specifically designed for Zimmer appreciation can survive without naysayers chiming in. It's a sad state of affairs, and I think it ultimately says more about those people than it does Zimmer - not necessarily because they are critical, which is fine, but because the posts are often formulated in such vile, tabloid manner. But that's how it is. Just learn to ignore and move on. Personally, I'm looking forward to what is probably the most impressive Zimmer season in a long time, with four major projects that could all spawn something interesting - WONDER WOMAN 1984, TOP GUN: MAVERICK, the Bond Movie and, most importantly, this DUNE movie. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1259 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 My take. The disdain JW fans have for HZ has little to do with his music. They just can't accept that he has 'usurped' JW as the most successful and famous composer in the world. Pretty petty and childish, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4072 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Trailer garbage music is one thing, the score is usually different and that's what I ultimately care about. 9 hours ago, Koray Savas said: Glad to see Trapanese speak out against the trailer music trend. It's saddening to see how people shat on The Rise of Skywalker's soundtrack album and score for not including the trailer music. There's a goldmine of music in these scores that unfortunately have been overlooked for 'EPIC' trailer music. Edmilson and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31072 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Thor said: Personally, I'm looking forward to what is probably the most impressive Zimmer season in a long time, with four major projects that could all spawn something interesting - WONDER WOMAN 1984, TOP GUN: MAVERICK, the Bond Movie and, most importantly, this DUNE movie. Why are you excluding Spongebob: Sponge on the Run from this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15469 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 and the jailer man and sailor sam were searching everyone FOR THE SPOOOONGE ON THE RUUUUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5812 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: Why are you excluding Spongebob: Sponge on the Run from this list? Ha, ha, I had completely forgotten that. Can't say that it's one I look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31072 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Thor said: Ha, ha, I had completely forgotten that. Can't say that it's one I look forward to. So your love of Zimmer's music is directly to related to the movie it's scoring? I thought you considered score albums to be "COMPLETELY SEPARATE" experiences from the films!? Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4518 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: Why are you excluding Spongebob: Sponge on the Run from this list? That's because Zimmer wrote next to nothing in SpongeBob, and most of the work was done by his RC team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31072 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4518 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Oh, come on, based on years of experience with Zimmer, do you actually believe he worked hard on Sponge Fucking Bob? His MO for these animated kids movies are already known, he writes a theme or two and lets his team do the rest. He needs to, in order to focus on movies that really matter to him, i.e. Dune (and MAYBE Wonder Woman). Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31072 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 So you don't have a source to back up what you said. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7545 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: Source? The anonymous kind, chief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9361 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I think he was meaning to write "sauce". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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