Popular Post Ricard 2,245 Posted April 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2019 The first Williams/Spielberg collaboration, of course! Happy 45th birthday, Williams/Spielberg! mrbellamy, phbart, SteveMc and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I still don't understand why JW doesn't want his work on this film released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 He probably views his Spielberg collaboration as highly important and feels that this first go is not up to the standards he would later set for himself for the collaboration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Ah so close. I guessed Burton's Batman. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, SteveMc said: He probably views his Spielberg collaboration as highly important and feels that this first go is not up to the standards he would later set for himself for the collaboration. Does he really thinks he still has to prove something to anyone regarding his skills? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, phbart said: I still don't understand why JW doesn't want his work on this film released. Because he composed just the theme and not the whole score... maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, Bespin said: Because he composed just the theme and not the whole score... maybe... Wat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 It's true - this was Hans Zimmer with themes by John Williams. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Zimmer's grandfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Still haven't seen the movie or listened to the score. I had the boot but the sound was so awful that I removed it from my drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I can kinda understand him. Outside the excellent theme, it's mostly just a lot of shuffling percussion. But still -- it has such historical significance, it MUST be released! Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 @Thor Your post was « almost » the most relevant thing you said for a while. In fact, since I’ve joined the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 hours ago, ATXHusker said: Still haven't seen the movie or listened to the score. Along with Jaws, it's one of only two Spielberg movies where the main theme is heard during the opening credits (still haven't seen Always) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Borodin said: Ah so close. I guessed Burton's Batman. Come on, kid! I'm not that old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 My sister and I went and saw it. It was funny sad and devastating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Bespin said: @Thor Your post was « almost » the most relevant thing you said for a while. In fact, since I’ve joined the forum! Funny thing to say. Thor's contributions on JWfan are usually more relevant then most. Including mine. Once, Ricard and Bespin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: Along with Jaws, it's one of only two Spielberg movies where the main theme is heard during the opening credits (still haven't seen Always) Catch Me If You Can, Tintin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I don't remember Tintin, but for Catch Me if You Can, isn't the theme that was referenced in "Escapades" played more frequently throughout the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,310 Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 That means Williams, at 87 years old, has now lived more years collaborating with Spielberg than years without. Quite an accomplishment. Henry Sítrónu, Once, Cerebral Cortex and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: I don't remember Tintin, but for Catch Me if You Can, isn't the theme that was referenced in "Escapades" played more frequently throughout the film? Tintin’s theme is quoted in the main titles. CMIYC really has three main thematic ideas (represented in each movement of “Escapades”), I think an argument could be made for any of them being the primary force behind the score. Definitely worth including as one of the few times Williams struts with a theme in the first seconds of a Spielberg movie. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 11 hours ago, crumbs said: That means Williams, at 87 years old, has now lived more years collaborating with Spielberg than years without. Quite an accomplishment. Juassic Park came out just before I started listening to film music. The CD was the first OST I ever bought. I remember Spielberg's liner notes, calling it "vintage Williams" and comparing it to Jaws, which at the time to me already was a film of the rather distant past, a mile stone in film music (and film) history from a distant era, miraculously made by the same people who made the brand new JP. The time span between Jaws and JP is 7 years shorter than that between JP and today. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I never could make it through The Sugarland Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, Ghostbusters II said: I never could make it through The Sugarland Express. The film or the soundtrack? The film is actually quite good. It's delightful to go on a treasure hunt for Spielberg's trademarks in this one, and Zsigmond's cinematography is very clever (as usual). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Yeah, it's a good movie, but honestly after watching it in high school I understood why Williams never had it released. The music's not bad, of course, and it does its job very well, but it's pretty...slight, added up. Not just in amount (I remember it being on the sparser side), but I didn't think the music would be the most enjoyable to listen to on its own. If anything, I really respect Williams for it, and I wish a lot of modern film composers would go through a similar quality of introspection regarding their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS is a bravura debut, and is a very confident first work, for the cinema. It deserves to be watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 359 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 11:57 PM, Richard said: THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS is a bravura debut, and is a very confident first work, for the cinema. It deserves to be watched. DUEL is better. (and yes, it had been played in European cinemas) P.S.: We should compare the music in Duel and Sugarland. Hm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Martinland said: P.S.: We should compare the music in Duel and Sugarland. Hm. Apples and oranges. First is a harsh, dissonant score with shades of Herrmann's PSYCHO, the second is a down-to-earth, rough-n-tough Americana score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 359 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 51 minutes ago, Thor said: Apples and oranges. Well, yes, they are both fruits, which is to say they are both off the main road stylistically - that's what I meant (jokingly anyway): Let's compare these one-of-a-kind debut approaches. Fair enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Martinland said: ...it had been played in European cinemas) As I am sure you well know, DUEL was made and broadcast as the ABC Movie Of The Week. It was then extended by fifteen minutes, and given a limited theatrical run. Make no mistake: THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS was Spielberg's first work expressly for cinema. On 4/5/2019 at 4:16 PM, phbart said: I still don't understand why JW doesn't want his work on this film released. The question is: why was there no OST, back in 1974? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Richard said: The question is: why was there no OST, back in 1974? As I mentioned in my post above, I wouldn't be surprised if William thought the music was too slight to release, and either couldn't or desire to rework it for an album setting. This approach wasn't too uncommon then, Goldsmith talked about it at least once. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 "...at least once"? Example, please, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Richard said: "...at least once"? Example, please, Nick. I'm trying to find the relevant interview, I'm having a difficult time right now. @crocodile You know the interview? I think you might have had a quote from it as a signature years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Nick Parker said: As I mentioned in my post above, I wouldn't be surprised if William thought the music was too slight to release, and either couldn't or desire to rework it for an album setting. This approach wasn't too uncommon then, Goldsmith talked about it at least once. Yeah, that. Also, the beginning of the 70s must have been a frustrating period for Williams fans, since a lot of his scores failed to get a soundtrack release at the time. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 He could have done more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 If one day it’s released, it will be like “Pete n Tillie” at the end of a CD, because it’s very short and mostly percussive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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