Popular Post Disco Stu 15,483 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 Quote Today, [Sandy DeCrescent] is still selecting the musicians and managing the orchestras for composer John Williams, who will be recording Star Wars in June (2019), https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sandy-decrescents-impact-motion-pictures-industry-paksy-plackis-cheng SyncMan, Joni Wiljami, Cerebral Cortex and 19 others 11 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Presto 4,299 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 Star Wars has already been recorded since 1977 That_Bloke, rpvee and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 5,899 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 Unexpected source. So funny how this stuff will sometimes just pop up wherever. crumbs, Will and rpvee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,041 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 That was a really nice interview. JTWfan77, Once, crumbs and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,899 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 That John Barry shade! Docteur Qui and Once 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,501 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Very cool! I wonder if it will all be in the one session, or this will be the first of a few? Great interview as well, Sandy sounds like a riot! I love the story of her screaming during the Jaws sessions! JTWfan77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,899 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I don’t see how they could possibly be one-and-done by June. crumbs and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,041 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: That John Barry shade! Hahaha, she's got a lot of juicy stories, I'm sure. She also confirms Williams is a filthy sexist. crumbs and Docteur Qui 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,501 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 “C’mon baby, come to the session baby” Do you think she called him daddy? I would’ve. crumbs and MikeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,899 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Quote One composer said to me, “I don’t want any women in the orchestra.” That was a gas. I said, “Really? I guess I’ll have to send you some.” [ Laughs.] And he said, “No, I meant that.” ”Why,” I said, “that’s not going to happen.” Definitely Williams. 9 minutes ago, Docteur Qui said: “C’mon baby, come to the session baby” Obviously we know Williams calls men “baby” too so he’s not a sexist, just a pervert. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,009 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 There would be something satisfying about Williams recording what he thinks should be the whole score in June and telling JJ on the way out: "That's the score. You're welcome." JTWfan77, crumbs, Once and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,899 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 With the baton Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeH 767 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tom said: There would be something satisfying about Williams recording what he thinks should be the whole score in June and telling JJ on the way out: "That's the score. You're welcome." Here’s 25 minutes, baby. Peace! Will, SteveMc, bollemanneke and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,009 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, MikeH said: Here’s 25 minutes, baby. Peace! "Track the rest with 'Escape from Naboo.'" crumbs, rpvee, DarthDementous and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,776 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 This interview also confirms all the re-writing that went on during TFA. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,618 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 That was an interesting interview! Thanks for sharing that Stu! And I am sure a person who has done 1100 films has a story or two to tell, especially when working with 43 composers in her heyday. 1 hour ago, Tom said: There would be something satisfying about Williams recording what he thinks should be the whole score in June and telling JJ on the way out: "That's the score. You're welcome." Oh no, John Williams wouldn't do that to "angel baby" Abrams. He is much too accommodating and a professional. I am sure he will, as usual, rewrite stuff if he is given enough time for revisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,041 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, artguy360 said: This interview also confirms all the re-writing that went on during TFA. Did you think that was a rumor? 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: Obviously we know Williams calls men “baby” too so he’s not a sexist, just a pervert Usually he prefaces "baby" with their name, though! Don't turn away from the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, mrbellamy said: I don’t see how they could possibly be one-and-done by June. Who says all the music will be recorded in June? The previous two films had multiple sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,073 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 But isn't 25 minutes of music too little to do a recording session? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,899 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I feel like 25 could fill a session but surely he’ll have more in a month. 24 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Who says all the music will be recorded in June? The previous two films had multiple sessions. Well I agree. Was responding to Docteur Qui wondering if they might be doing the whole score. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 727 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: But isn't 25 minutes of music too little to do a recording session? Interview with Williams took place a month ago, so now it's about 50 minutes. We can assume that in a month he will have 70-80 minutes of music written. As the sessions will probably take all summer, and the music in a Star Wars movie lasts about 120 minutes, Williams certainly has everything planned and under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,380 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Pawel P. said: he music in a Star Wars movie last about 120 minutes Yeah, but the editing process on these newer films is more fluid, resulting in rewriting quite a few cues, so for a 120-minute film, you often end up with up a 160 minutes of written music. rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 727 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I'm sure he takes that into account. He will still have plenty of time. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,978 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It's going to be a staggered schedule like it was for 7 and 8. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,380 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Pawel P. said: I'm sure he takes that into account. He will still have plenty of time. Oh, surely. What I mean is that when we estimate that Williams has written 50 minutes or so, that isn't the same as saying that there's 50 minutes of score "locked" to the picture. He'll need to write a lot more than 120 minutes, I wager, and he can't write all 120 minutes at one go, either, because he's probably watching this film one reel at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,099 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Such a great story, I loved hearing Sandy's journey to where she is now, definitely inspiring for anyone interested in the field. I'm also jealous - getting to work with all those amazing artists! Here's hoping Williams can finish the score! You go Johnny! mrbellamy and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,380 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, Arpy said: Here's hoping Williams can finish the score! You go Johnny! That's GRR Martin you're thinking about right there. It seems Williams shows no signs of slowing down. I'm holding out for what I hope would be one of his very best. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 13,596 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 Awesome news! So MM was actually referring to the recording sessions when he said the schedule was still being worked out and suggested June was Williams' start date. So if we assume Williams has written ~50 minutes thus far, he should be well over an hour by the start of June. That means enough score for a two day batch of 2x3 hour sessions (based on Sandy's estimate of John averaging 15 minutes recorded per 3 hour session). Just think, an hour of new Star Wars music is only a month away from being performed by the Maestro's hand. Brilliant! ... and that leaves him 4 months to finish all JJ's rewrites! Pawel P., Remco, Bayesian and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fabulin 3,465 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 . Smeltington, JTWfan77, Mattris and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 There no reason to ever release every take of every cue. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 33,784 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 It's really happening. Nine Star Wars scores from the maestro. crumbs, Remco and rpvee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Did you ever had any doubt? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 33,784 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 I take nothing for granted. DarthDementous, crumbs, Cerebral Cortex and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 727 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Three trilogies of great music... Has any composer ever achieved anything similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt S. 475 Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 I like to wonder what JW's reaction would have been, if somebody came into his office in 1976 while he was at his piano working on the first score, and told him that 43 years later, he'd be using the same themes and material for an ninth installment. John probably would have called Security and had him committed. Chen G., Will, rpvee and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, Pawel P. said: Three trilogies of great music... Has any composer ever achieved anything similar? John Barry scored 11 Bond movies. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,009 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: John Barry scored 11 Bond movies. Or did he score 1 Bond film 11 times? Just kidding--just an old Haydn joke. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 13,596 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Stefancos said: John Barry scored 11 Bond movies. Judged holistically, I think SW is the greater achievement but it's apples and oranges really. JTWfan77 and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,483 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, crumbs said: apples and oranges That phrase is a plague upon this forum! Tis as like hot needles upon mine eyes! Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,009 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Any way you cut it, it is a huge achievement. I have been underwhelmed by the Disney SW-product, but I hope for Williams' sake, IX goes out on a high-note. And, why not make the pun intended. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, crumbs said: Judged holistically, I think SW is the greater achievement but it's apples and oranges really. With the Bond scores Barry practically created a (sub)genre of music. Which might be a greater achievement that what Williams did with SW. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,009 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: That phrase is a plague upon this forum! Tis as like hot needles upon mine eyes! Comparing the forum's use of phrases to the plague is like comparing apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It's a perfectly common saying. I dunno why people here take umbrage against it or find it weird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,483 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 Because it's fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Its fun, how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pawel P. 727 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, Stefancos said: John Barry scored 11 Bond movies. Of course I know he did. I have all his Bond scores in my CD collection. The Danish composer Bent Fabricius-Bjerre wrote music for about 20 Olsen Gang movies, if not more. But three trilogies written in over 40 years... I guess nothing can compare with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,380 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I think the difference is that Star Wars tells a unified story, as opposed to Bond where each entry is its own story. The one's a cycle, the other - an anthology; and that extends to the role of the music. John's achievement is mostly in the composition of multiple leitmotives and their development across such a long-form of a work. That doesn't happen with Bond because there is no through-development from entry to entry. Its more comparable to Howard Shore's Middle Earth work (with less entries but at an overall similar length and scope, and greater intricacy) and Wagner's Ring Cycle, the shortest but perhaps most intricate of the three. Its a great achievement however you look at it. Even within the original hexalogy, there hasn't been one director, writer, editor, cinematographer or art director throughout - but there has been one and only composer, minus the odd diegetic piece. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 7,229 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Tom said: Comparing the forum's use of phrases to the plague is like comparing apples and oranges. He could have complained more. 18 hours ago, Disco Stu said: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sandy-decrescents-impact-motion-pictures-industry-paksy-plackis-cheng Excellent interview! 11 hours ago, Pawel P. said: Interview with Williams took place a month ago, so now it's about 50 minutes. We can assume that in a month he will have 70-80 minutes of music written. That's assuming he already has that much of the film to score. The sessions might be spaced out like they were with TFA. 13 hours ago, bollemanneke said: But isn't 25 minutes of music too little to do a recording session? According to the DeCrescent interview, they should fill two 3 hour blocks just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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