Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 The only thing I don't really like about BTTF is the ending where the family is now more wealthy, successful and therefore happy. Marty's brother is apparently being shamed at the start of the movie because he works in the service industry and takes public transportation? His family at the start of the movie feels more real. They all lose their charm when history has been altered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 They are too perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Ghostbusters II said: The only thing I don't really like about BTTF is the ending where the family is now more wealthy, successful and therefore happy. Marty's brother is apparently being shamed at the start of the movie because he works in the service industry and takes public transportation? His family at the start of the movie feels more real. They all lose their charm when history has been altered. I think if they knew they were going to make two sequels, they wouldn't have done that ending the same way. It was meant as like a funny stinger after the real end of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 The rich have a romanticised idea about being poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Only a rich person would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry O 115 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ghostbusters II said: The only thing I don't really like about BTTF is the ending where the family is now more wealthy, successful and therefore happy. Marty's brother is apparently being shamed at the start of the movie because he works in the service industry and takes public transportation? His family at the start of the movie feels more real. They all lose their charm when history has been altered. That's very '80s, though. It absolutely fits for the time in which it was made. Gale and Zemeckis poked fun at that yuppie-friendly mindset in the sequels (making Biff into Donald Trump) but there are a lot of movies made in that period where the subtext was essentially "if you're not driving this car, living in a house with this many bedrooms, and your wardrobe doesn't include this many polo pastels and sweaters to wrap around your shoulders, you're probably a bad American who deserves whatever they get." The Reagan Years were really mean-spirited and superficial as a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 The epitome of the "the 80s were seriously fucked up" narrative is Revenge of the Nerds. That movie is seriously fucked up. Larry O 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Its very funny The 80's were golden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Back to the Future is 34 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 But the decade also gave us Tom Waits' Rain Dogs and Pee-wee's Big Adventure, a movie that is the polar opposite of the worst cultural norms of that time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry O 115 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Also, phones and/or computer monitors make for very expensive birdcage liner, and I would hope nobody's actually attempting that as a remedy for their pet's housekeeping routine. Birds as housepets has always seemed sorta cruel anyway. The whole point of them is to be in the air somewhere. Not trapped in a cage in a house, forced to poop on confused old people's electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Untrue. Big Adventure was only possible in that time period. Lol at the tree hugger attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Just now, JoeinAR said: Untrue. Big Adventure was only possible in that time period. Yes, and I'm saying it represents the best of it. Big hearted and silly and a celebration of genuine weirdos, unlike most 80s comedies which were typically mean-spirited and based around sexual humiliation and enforcement of "traditional" values at their hearts. Larry O 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Your memory of the 80s sounds victimized There is someone you should talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I have this doll and I'll show you where the 80s touched me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: I have this doll and I'll show you where the 80s touched me Jurassic Shark and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Pee-Wee predicted the man children of the 2010s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Only a rich person would know. Not if they inherited the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ghostbusters II said: Pee-Wee predicted the man children of the 2010s. If the man children of today were more like Pee-wee the world would be a more fun place. They don't build Rube Goldberg breakfast machines, they just make angry petitions and comments online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Pee-Wee was a brat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 A self-obsessed, childish brat who was nevertheless somehow charming to millions of people. Wait is Donald Trump Pee-wee Herman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Omg people I just fed you a line on a silver platter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 38 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: is Donald Trump Pee-wee Herman? No, because while Pee-Wee hosted Cowboy Curtis and the King of Cartoons, Donald Trump doesn't like black people. Disco Stu and mstrox 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Larry O said: That's very '80s, though. It absolutely fits for the time in which it was made. Gale and Zemeckis poked fun at that yuppie-friendly mindset in the sequels (making Biff into Donald Trump) but there are a lot of movies made in that period where the subtext was essentially "if you're not driving this car, living in a house with this many bedrooms, and your wardrobe doesn't include this many polo pastels and sweaters to wrap around your shoulders, you're probably a bad American who deserves whatever they get." The Reagan Years were really mean-spirited and superficial as a rule. Exhibit A: basically every John Hughes movie Larry O 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Ill take John Hughes over J. Apatow's shit anyday. Naïve Old Fart and Unlucky Bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Bayesian said: Exhibit A: basically every John Hughes movie I disagree. Look closer. Sure, Hughes had a crass side and, as an ad-man, had a keen sense of what the public wanted to see, but, in portraying the characters and the time he did, he took things apart, and focused on the immaterial, love, friendship, relationships and the like. The rich polo shirt sweater people in Pretty In Pink are shown to be shallow fools. In The Breakfast Club, Hughes gives us kids who are excluded or trapped by contemporary society. He did not preach a message of fitting in, nor of standing out, but merely of being. It is subtle, and all the more brilliant for it. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 He also wrote Baby’s Day Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 And Dennis the Menace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyncMan 314 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 And still DisneyConcert won't issue a Live-to-Projection concert of TPM, this year... ...or maybe I'm bitching to soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I never even knew people complained about the yuppie ending to BTTF until I heard Zemeckis talk about it on the DVD extras. I don't mind it really. This isn't dark and disturbing cinema, it's a simple crowdpleaser where the visual language needs to splash a strong contrast between the down-in-the-dumps situation the family was in at the beginning, to the happier and successful version of themselves in the altered timeline. People need to see very plainly how much of an impact Marty's actions in the past made on the timeline, which made George a more motivated and positive person. And in the visual language, yeah nicer stuff can be a circumstantial result of that. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: And Dennis the Menace! I don't want to see you. I don't want to know you. Get outta my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Excooze me. Your shoo lacers untied... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Whatcha eatin' there scout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 16 hours ago, JoeinAR said: Its got Huey Lewis in it so it can't be that great At least he's not taking a piss 17 hours ago, Romão said: TPM was a deeply flawed movie, but what a score. It goes through an immensity of orchestral colors and moods. It's one of the biggest showcases of JW's flair Very. Well. Said. The OST doesn't do the score justice. Taken in its complete (and I use that word advisedly) form, it's among the very best JW scores, of the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I like the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 I like it here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 It's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Jim, The Phantom Menace is 20 years old. We feel her day is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I spent 20 years trying to get us ready for this. We used their technology to strengthen our planet. But it won't be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Original said: I spent 20 years trying to get us ready for this. We used their technology to strengthen our planet. But it won't be enough. Yellow card! No quoting Resurgence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 20 Years Ago Four Strangers Saved Naboo This December A New Team Will Answer The Call mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 The Desktop Menace Happy belated, TPM! Arpy and Fabulin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Wait, isn't that a shot from the end battle of Black Panther? No, wait, it's the battle in Wakanda at the end of Avengers Infinity War! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 . Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I ask you to help us. No, I beg you to help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Ghostbusters II said: I ask you to help us. No, I beg you to help us. *Helpus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Ghostbusters II said: I ask you to help us. No, I beg you to help us. He was our best, last chance in the universe for peace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Ghostbusters II said: I ask you to help us. No, I beg you to help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 11 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: The Desktop Menace Happy belated, TPM! The CG composite work in TPM never did look any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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