Joe Brausam 211 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 It is probably my favorite post-2005 Williams score, though for me it has some very strong competition from Lincoln - they both do a lot for me. I do consider War Horse to be masterpiece level from Williams, and I think it is one of his greatest original soundtrack albums as well. It's so well arranged and tells a complete story on its own. In that sense I feel like the score is practically a tone poem and works as a self contained piece of programmatic music. Smeltington and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7770 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 It's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7533 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I like the music that accompanies Joey's psychotic episode, where he runs through No Man's Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9355 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 The score to The Terminal > the score to War Horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 657 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 It’s certainly a masterpiece, even if it doesn’t reach the heights of what many consider ‘the true John Williams’ classics’. I find War Horse so well infused with melody and themes, all of which get a moment to shine in The Homecoming, one of Williams’ finest suites. It’s a top 15 score for me and my favorite since the first Harry Potter. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2304 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 As far as horse music goes, Danny Elfman and John Scott did them better. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3397 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: As far as horse music goes, Danny Elfman and John Scott did them better. Nah, in terms of pure horse music, the race section from the Reivers concert suite reigns supreme. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9355 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Nah, The Land Race from Far and Away beats them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3397 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Yes, good choice, though I always felt The Land Race was a (fantastic) reworking of the Reivers piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1651 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Joe Brausam said: It is probably my favorite post-2005 Williams score, though for me it has some very strong competition from Lincoln - they both do a lot for me. I do consider War Horse to be masterpiece level from Williams, and I think it is one of his greatest original soundtrack albums as well. It's so well arranged and tells a complete story on its own. In that sense I feel like the score is practically a tone poem and works as a self contained piece of programmatic music. Damn, yeah, Lincoln gives it a run for its money. I forgot about that. But yes, it's a very satisfying album! My only frustration is a compositional one - I don't like the very last chord of the film before the credits. Or at least, I don't like the way it gets there. Feels like the trumpet melody should have dropped back down to the root or something. Otherwise, quite a stellar score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2247 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Tom said: Nah, in terms of pure horse music, the race section from the Reivers concert suite reigns supreme. That music is outstanding! Maybe my second favorite horse music. I think the best horse music in film history is by Victor Young. Maybe we need a best horse music thread! So many great examples in classic Hollywood scores. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1675 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Much of the music in the first half of the score sounds too busy and rushed for me, including some big thematic statements. The opening track is especially busy and seemingly well outpaces the on screen action. However, the last 3rd or so of the OST is fantastic. Reunion and Remembering... are two of my favorite modern JW tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3182 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 it's awesome but not a masterpiece On 5/30/2019 at 2:04 PM, Jay said: The OST is superbly arranged, too! the FYC is good too and has the harness cue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3397 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 17 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: That music is outstanding! Maybe my second favorite horse music. I think the best horse music in film history is by Victor Young. Maybe we need a best horse music thread! So many great examples in classic Hollywood scores. I just listened to this--very nice. At first, it sounds as if it is going to be a William Tell-type piece, but it quickly goes into its own delightful direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2247 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Tom said: I just listened to this--very nice. At first, it sounds as if it is going to be a William Tell-type piece, but it quickly goes into its own delightful direction. The scene is amazing too! One of the most exciting action scenes ever. John Ford was a master and he outdid himself in this great masterpiece of a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2587 Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 1:47 PM, Jurassic Shark said: Nah, The Land Race from Far and Away beats them all. Nah, The Black Stallion Returns crushes them all in both land race and boy in love with his horse genres. Great movie too! Thumbs up for having the kid ride with all at stake and zening out at the end with lush music as Mustafa starts to freak but both have everything at stake which is why the film is so wonderful. Both films are brilliant and lovely. publicist, Dixon Hill and KK 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9355 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I respectfully disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4635 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Let's agree that horses and film composers are a happy marriage. @karelm What tragic waste that Carmine Coppola score to the first Black Staliion movie is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 113 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I do, I think is one of the best scores from Williams, and that's saying a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5811 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 5 hours ago, publicist said: What tragic waste that Carmine Coppola score to the first Black Staliion movie is. Say what?!? It's arguably Coppola's best score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9355 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I think he meant the film is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5394 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Parts of the serenely designed underscore are just too cloying and twee for me to really get along with. It's like the music is saying, listen to how quintessentially English countryside I sound. As such, it distracted from my viewing to a noticeable degree. It's a mostly "fine" score, but certainly not a masterpiece, regardless even of those gripes I have with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5811 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I think he meant the film is bad. Ah, I see. Never seen it; but a colleague of mine absolutely loves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9355 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Thor said: Ah, I see. Never seen it; but a colleague of mine absolutely loves it. I haven't seen it - I always thought it was meant for 13 year old girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7533 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Do I consider WAR HORSE a masterpiece? No. I consider it a reasonable rate of return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1406 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Is War Horse a masterpiece? in my opinion, no. But maybe it has layers that I’ve yet to pick up on, in spite of owning both the OST and the FYC. Maybe the compositions are complex beyond my comprehension. I remember obsessing about it upon its release, but it’s kind of been put further and further down in my playlists. I mean this in no way to disrespect JW’s talent. I am the most avid JWfan! But how many masterpieces can a man produce during a lifetime? No matter how good I think War Horse is, I think the top spots in JWs output belongs to Jaws, CE3K and Schindler’s List. I’d be more interested to hear those who think that War Horse is a masterpiece talk about why they think so - what cues connect? What subtleties lies beneath the obvious notes? - and learn something new, rather than a thread full of “yes” and “no” (such as my own). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6478 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 The best horse music is the beginning of Desert Chase. Nice masculine testosterone-fueled track. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dieter Stark said: The best horse music is the beginning of Desert Chase. Nice masculine testosterone-fueled track. Wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6478 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I musta jumped that 50 times. Scared the hell outta me each time. Except this time. Because it isn't real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 So...Captain of the Enterprise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7533 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, Dieter Stark said: The best horse music is the beginning of Desert Chase. Nice masculine testosterone-fueled track. Rubbish! THE HUNT from THE FINAL CONFLICT is the best ever equine music. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4635 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Thor said: Say what?!? It's arguably Coppola's best score. It's awful, like most of what Coppola senior produced. Nepotism at its worst! 3 hours ago, rough cut said: I’d be more interested to hear those who think that War Horse is a masterpiece talk about why they think so - what cues connect? What subtleties lies beneath the obvious notes? - and learn something new, rather than a thread full of “yes” and “no” (such as my own). It sounds like an old-fashioned Hollywood score, that usually does the trick here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5811 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, publicist said: It's awful, like most of what Coppola senior produced. Nepotism at its worst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4635 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Even with Walker's help in the whole 'fill out all the voicings of my single line sketch' it sounds amateurishly conceived, especially with the talent available in 1979. The theme is agreeably gooey in a John Barry-sort of way but doesn't fit the movie - which is really good and deserved much better (at least the sequel got a much better score). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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