Manakin Skywalker 5,166 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Anyone else a fan of Danny Elfman's classic MIB scores? I was concerned he wouldn't be back to score the spinoff since it has a new director; I'm glad I was wrong! I got the score early, and so far (like 3 tracks in) I like what I'm hearing! Some nice references to the original scores here and there with a "modern" twist. Cerebral Cortex and Jacck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,358 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Wow! Somehow this slipped past my radar. Had no idea he was returning. Definitely enjoy the previous scores so I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks for the heads up! Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Considering Chris Bacon is credited as co-composer, I’d wager he did most of the work and Elfman got credit for the thematic reprisals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,166 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 Elfman just did an interview on the process. It sounds like he did the bulk of the work while Chris Bacon mostly handled additional music and possibly some adaptations. There's a lot of synth parts in the score, so that could have been Bacon as well. The score sounds very Elfman-y though, so if Bacon did more work than I'd think, he did a good job sounding like Elfman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,362 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Koray Savas said: Considering Chris Bacon is credited as co-composer, I’d wager he did most of the work and Elfman got credit for the thematic reprisals. Like Bourne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 4,035 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/movies/8514821/danny-elfman-talks-score-men-in-black-international Certainly suggests Elfman was more than happy to return and do the bulk of the score, with Bacon helping. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,820 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Elfman's MIB scores are fine. I'm a big Elfman fan, but for some reason the first one never stuck with me besides the opening titles. I think each successive MIB score has been better than the previous, though, so I'm still looking forward to this. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,494 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I like the second score the most. The first one has its moments, but couldn't get into the third one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,669 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Listened to the first half hour, this is lots of fun! I've missed this sound from Elfman. Hints of Willy Wonka but that trademark off-kilter MIB style in full effect. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,721 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Why do they need to make another one? Men in Black 3 was the perfect conclusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,494 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I haven't seen it. John Dutton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,721 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 It's actually better than it has any right being It's not the most "cinematic" movie* but the effort is appreciable. *it's filmed with one of those stupid fucking 3D cameras Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,872 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I've never seen the third one either. The second one was terrible compared to the first one so I didn't bother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,820 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 The second movie was awful, agreed - the third movie was the best of the three. They concluded that story in pt 3 -- this one is a new story with mostly new characters, so it's kind of like a reboot, even though it's in the same universe. Kind of like if James Bond ended, but they started a new series called "009" where the only returning characters were M and Q. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,362 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 The first one is the best, the third one is good! Nothing special, but solid and funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,885 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I loved the first and third movies -- you should check out the third, Jay. Huge leap forward compared with the rushed 2nd movie. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,218 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I like the ride at Universal Studios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Stefancos said: Like Bourne? Exactly. Also I thought MIB 3 was the worst of them all. Not sure why everyone likes it here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,885 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 How is 3 worse than 2 in your estimation? Josh Brolin as a young Tommy Lee Jones goes a long way towards making the third film super entertaining, IMO. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I’d rather have Tommy Lee Jones! I found Brolin’s impersonation unflattering, and as much as I love Jemaine Clement, his role was terrible. The writing and dialogue just weren’t there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,166 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 I loved MIB 3. It's a fun film that connects the trilogy together nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 4,035 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I may have seen bits of #2, don't really remember. I really enjoyed #3. Musically, I like some bits of the first and third scores. Don't remember a thing from the second. I'm ready to give the new one a go, particularly if Elfman appears to have enjoyed doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,820 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I liked the third one because it ditched some of the tryhard coolness factor and had emotional stakes for whatever letter Will Smith was. It also came after MIB2 so it impressed me by comparison, I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,998 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Chris Bacon has been credited as additional composer in many Elfman's scores at least since 2014. This is the first time he shares front credit with him, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,494 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Elfman has gone full-blown Zimmer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee 314 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Bacon wrote a fair bit of music for Goosebumps, and helped with Avengers, but the rest of his contributions have otherwise been relatively minor. He wrote two cues for Alice Through the Looking Glass and Mr Peabody (minor cues which didn't make either score album) and he has one cue credit for The Grinch's album. For Dumbo, he arranged a handful of Elfman's cues. At least this is what the cue sheets suggest. To be fair to Elfman, he at least credits those who help him out. There's an A-List composer whose ghostwriters have ghostwriters and they often get no credit whatsoever (not Hans, by the way). Sven Faulconer has been uncredited for his work for JNH on many occasions. Christopher Young often gets help on higher profile projects (six additional composers for Priest, but no mention of them in the album credits). This is the nature of the business these days. Powell only has a single credit on a handful of cues for The Hidden World. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,826 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,106 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 9:46 AM, Not Mr. Big said: Why do they need to make another one? Men in Black 3 was the perfect conclusion Truthfully, the first one should have been the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,826 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Agreed. It gets worse with each installment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,106 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 22 hours ago, Koray Savas said: I’d rather have Tommy Lee Jones! I found Brolin’s impersonation unflattering, and as much as I love Jemaine Clement, his role was terrible. The writing and dialogue just weren’t there. To me his impersonation was the only highlight of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,826 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 had a highlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,422 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, ddddeeee said: To be fair to Elfman, he at least credits those who help him out. There's an A-List composer whose ghostwriters have ghostwriters and they often get no credit whatsoever (not Hans, by the way). Scandalous! I’m really curious who this A-lister is. Can you offer any hints? (I’m guessing you don’t want to come right out with his name.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,826 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I'm guessing Desplat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,669 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Someone made a comment about Giacchino having an entire team of ghostwriters on here once. Might have just been a joke but I've wondered how he composes so many scores in a single year (granted, he's taken a break lately, but he was churning them out constantly a few years back). Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Desplat certainly has ghostwriters. Bear McCreary too. Giacchino has a team but they’re typically credited; and as we recently learned, he ghostwrites for others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,494 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Who are John Williams' ghostwriters? Spoiler They're all dead. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,362 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Desplat certainly has ghostwriters. Bear McCreary too. Giacchino has a team but they’re typically credited; and as we recently learned, he ghostwrites for others! And you don't have a problem with this, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,494 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I bet the uncredited ghostwriters are mostly women. Can't let females take any credit in a macho man world! #feminithm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,362 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I love how you're trying to turn something political even though it isn't. And you're not allowed to do so anymore anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,494 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I love how you're trying to turn something political even though it isn't. And you're not allowed to do so anymore anyway. It's not political. It's controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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