Hans Zimmer's NO TIME TO DIE (2021)

[bruce marshall 1258]

When Powell collaborates with Composer X, it's still a " John Powell score"..

When Zimmer collanorates it's a " Composer X score".

 

You people are pathetic.😠

And I mean that in a nice way😅

[gkgyver 1643]

What's the fucking difference? Zimmer or Mazzarro or Mazzimmer or Zimzarro, the result will sound the absolute same, with a few guitar solos thrown in. Like in the awkward gunbarrel. 

[crumbs 12574]

Johnny Marr, English guitarist who worked on the score:

 

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“There’s a lot of noises,” Marr teased. “Kind of like electronic noises. Sound design as well… And I won’t go into all the details, but there’s a thing that you can do with guitars that’s a thing you can’t do with synthesizers. So, I’m flying the flag for that… On this movie I got a chance to do quite a lot of bugged-out sound design as well, which has been really fun.”

 

Doesn't that just sound... great

[Naïve Old Fart 7496]

Oh, dear. From HOW SOON IS NOW? to "There's a lot of noises". How the mighty are fallen.

[Jurassic Shark 9303]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

And I won’t go into all the details, but there’s a thing that you can do with guitars that’s a thing you can’t do with synthesizers.

 

Unspeakable things.

[bruce marshall 1258]

I predict the score will be great!

[Jurassic Shark 9303]

You won't know there's a score because it will all be like weird background sounds.

[bruce marshall 1258]

" And........loving

 it!" 😁

[Edmilson 4472]

6 hours ago, crumbs said:

“There’s a lot of noises,” Marr teased. “Kind of like electronic noises. Sound design as well

 

LOL

 

So it'll be like Dunkirk, right? Because a Dunkirk-like score is very appropriate for Bond. My gosh...

[bruce marshall 1258]

You guys.....

It's NOT going to be like DUNKIRK.

Sheesh!😒

[TheUlyssesian 2247]

I think it is fair to say Zimmer shocked us all with his WW84 score. Even Clemmensen gave a rave review.

 

Should we all be a bit more hopeful after WW84?

[HunterTech 682]

Given how the Craig era has gone so far, I have my doubts. He could certainly surprise us, but with what the producers have aimed for with this iteration of the character (especially if Nolan Batman was an inspiration), it's hard to imagine it not being more of the same from recent times. Plus, given Mazzaro's co-credit (especially having worked on another EON production recently), it seems like another vehicle for him to get his career off the ground after his work on past several HZ scores. Anything goes, but I have more faith in some of his other projects.

 

BTW, I'm surprised no one has mentioned this particular song yet, given it kind of functions as his Bond song prior to contributing to the actual one on NTTD. Probably doesn't sound much like anything in the actual 007 series, but it's too fun not to bring up anyway:

 

[Jay 30918]

The official Facebook page released a video with Zimmer score in it

 

https://www.facebook.com/JamesBond007GB/posts/4405188906240559

 

youtube mirror:

 

 

[WampaRat 1095]

Sounds fun. As long as they use that classic theme enough I’m all in. Even if it’s an rcp take on the material.

 
While I liked Newman’s work on Skyfall, the action music was a bit limp. So I’m looking forward to a bit more testosterone in this final Craig outing.

[toothless 941]

The classic theme was criminally underused in the Craig movies. Glad if it’s featured in its full glory, as cliché as it might sound 🙂

[Jay 30918]

I dunno about that - it appears in Tomorrow Never Dies pretty frequently, I thought

But yea, it wasn't used as much in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace on purpose

[Anthony 562]

The clips of Zimmer's score we've heard so far (the Gun Barrel, this video, some other looping variations of the vamp) have been so generic they really could have been from any of the David Arnold or Thomas Newman scores. Hell, the Gunbarrel IS just a re-recording of Newman's version from Spectre. I'm far more intrigued to hear Zimmer's own material.

 

The best thing to come from this film musically so far is the instrumental version of the song on the (also delayed) Bond 25 compilation/re-recording. I'm looking forward to hearing that whole album (orchestral versions of all the title songs - can't wait to finally get a full version of You Know My Name with - hopefully- a decent performance.)

 

I think this clip may be from the NTTD instrumental which will be on the score album, which is different to the one on the compilation above.

 

 

[A Farewell to Kings 3529]

4 hours ago, Jay said:

I dunno about that - it appears in Tomorrow Never Dies pretty frequently, I thought

But yea, it wasn't used as much in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace on purpose

Tomorrow never dies isn't a Craig movie (unless toothless edited that into his post...)

[Edmilson 4472]

3 hours ago, Anthony said:

 

That's an interesting video. I noticed the musicians aren't wearing masks, which means the score was recorded before the pandemic. 

 

It's also interesting to see that the whole orchestra is recording. From what I've seen from other recording sessions for Zimmer scores is that he (and the other RC composers) usually like to record each section of the orchestra separetdly. First the strings, then the brass, then the percussion, etc. So, it's nice to see that at least for this score they recorded everyone together.

[Jay 30918]

12 hours ago, Permanent Waves said:

Tomorrow never dies isn't a Craig movie (unless toothless edited that into his post...)

 

 

Huh, I read Arnold movies instead of Craig movies somehow. Weird. 

 

My mistake

 

 

11 hours ago, Edmilson said:

That's an interesting video. I noticed the musicians aren't wearing masks, which means the score was recorded before the pandemic. 

 

 

If course it was, have you already forgotten this film was supposed to open in April 2020? Eilish's song already came out, was a hit, and won the Grammy too... 

[Mephariel 309]

2 hours ago, Edmilson said:

That's an interesting video. I noticed the musicians aren't wearing masks, which means the score was recorded before the pandemic. 

 

It's also interesting to see that the whole orchestra is recording. From what I've seen from other recording sessions for Zimmer scores is that he (and the other RC composers) usually like to record each section of the orchestra separetdly. First the strings, then the brass, then the percussion, etc. So, it's nice to see that at least for this score they recorded everyone together.

 

The score was recorded in Feb 2020, right before all the shut down happened. 

[rough cut 1397]

Did anyone else get DG’s mail about the release for Hans Zimmer’s score?

 

Besides the standard (for a high profile release, at least) CD, vinyl and vinyl picture disc, there’s also a golden cassette.

 

It can be yours for only 11,99 € + shipping!

 

[A Farewell to Kings 3529]

When are we getting a wax/plastic cylinder release?

[Jurassic Shark 9303]

1 hour ago, rough cut said:

Did anyone else get DG’s mail about the release for Hans Zimmer’s score?

 

Besides the standard (for a high profile release, at least) CD, vinyl and vinyl picture disc, there’s also a golden cassette.

 

It can be yours for only 11,99 € + shipping!

 

 

[TheUlyssesian 2247]

How the fuck does one play a cassette these days????

[A Farewell to Kings 3529]

1 minute ago, TheUlyssesian said:

How the fuck does one play a cassette these days????

With a cassette....player?

[Edmilson 4472]

Here's the tracklist on the cassete tape, no idea if it's real or not:

 

A1. Gun Barrel
A2. Masterful (?)
A3. Message from an old friend
A4. Square Escape
A5. Someone was here
A6. Not what I expected
A7. What have you done
A8. Shouldn't we get to know each other first?
A9. Cuba chase
A10. Back to MI6

 

B1. Good to have you back
B2. Lovely to see you again
B3. Home
B4. Norway chase
B5. Gearing up
B6. Poison garden
B7. The Factory
B8. I'll be right back
B9. Opening the doors (?)
B10. Final Ascent
B11. No time to die

[Naïve Old Fart 7496]

28 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

With a cassette....player?

...or try a Sony Walkman.

[Jurassic Shark 9303]

That's Matera, not Masterful.

 

Here's the 2LP tracklist:

 

https://www.ebay.de/itm/393538697419?hash=item5ba0bbf8cb:g:B6MAAOSwkDNhKRZN

 

https://www.ebay.de/itm/373714127793?hash=item5703190bb1:g:~MgAAOSwH8VhORT9

 

1 Gun Barrel

2 Matera

3 Message From An Old Friend

4 Square Escape

5 Someone Was Here

6 Not What I Expected

7 What Have You Done?

8 Shouldn’t We Get To Know Each Other First

9 Back to MI6

10 Good To Have You Back

11 Norway Chase

12 Opening The Doors

13 Final Ascent

14 No Time To Die

[Naïve Old Fart 7496]

Bloody hell, there's two records of this shit?!

[Jurassic Shark 9303]

And there's even more on the cassette, it seems.

[Naïve Old Fart 7496]

[Jay 30918]

2 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Here's the tracklist on the cassete tape, no idea if it's real or not:

 

A1. Gun Barrel
A2. Masterful (?)
A3. Message from an old friend
A4. Square Escape
A5. Someone was here
A6. Not what I expected
A7. What have you done
A8. Shouldn't we get to know each other first?
A9. Cuba chase
A10. Back to MI6

 

B1. Good to have you back
B2. Lovely to see you again
B3. Home
B4. Norway chase
B5. Gearing up
B6. Poison garden
B7. The Factory
B8. I'll be right back
B9. Opening the doors (?)
B10. Final Ascent
B11. No time to die

 

The tracklist has been known for a year

 

On 10/2/2020 at 9:00 AM, Jay said:

 

1. Gun Barrel (0:55)
2. Matera (1:59)
3. Message From an Old Friend (6:35)
4. Square Escape (2:06)
5. Someone Was Here (2:56)
6. Not What I Expected (1:24)
7. What Have You Done? (2:14)
8. Shouldn’t We Get to Know Each Other First (1:21)
9. Cuba Chase (5:40)
10. Back to MI6 (1:30)
11. Good to Have You Back (1:17)
12. Lovely to See You Again (1:25)
13. Home (3:45)
14. Norway Chase (5:06)
15. Gearing Up (2:53)
16. Poison Garden (3:58)
17. The Factory (6:42)
18. I’ll Be Right Back (4:59)
19. Opening the Doors (2:44)
20. Final Ascent (7:25)
21. No Time to Die – Billie Eilish (4:04)

[Anthony 562]

Clips from Zimmer's score will apparently be featured within this podcast at some point.

 

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/no-time-to-die-the-official-james-bond-podcast/id1532875925

[antovolk 92]

Some new clips in the background here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00100pr

[Naïve Old Fart 7496]

15 minutes ago, antovolk said:

Some new clips in the background

That's where it should stay.

[Anthony 562]

3 hours ago, antovolk said:

Some new clips in the background here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00100pr

 

So the title song is incorporated into the score from the sound of things. Hopefully more than just the token arrangement like in Skyfall and SPECTRE.

[artguy360 1669]

What does everyone expect from this score? Is Hans Zimmer doing James Bond just going to be standard Hans Zimmer fare? Do we know how much of the score was actually written by Hans?

[Anthony 562]

8 hours ago, artguy360 said:

What does everyone expect from this score? Is Hans Zimmer doing James Bond just going to be standard Hans Zimmer fare? Do we know how much of the score was actually written by Hans?

 

He seems to be quite upfront about working with Steve Mazzaro, so who knows.

 

He also isn't being all "this is something you've never heard before, and it's the greatest thing ever", which gives me hope that it's just trying to sound like a Bond score and hasn't been Zimmerfied.

 

The very short snippets that are out there sound fun, though they do make me wonder, "Why didn't you just get David Arnold back?".

[Anthony 562]

[Tallguy 1486]

How many Bond posters have actually had Q?

[Sweeping Strings 1560]

I think that's the first ... the others usually feature Bond, the leading lady/ladies and sometimes the villain. The 'support team' don't usually get a look-in.   

[Anthony 562]

Not sure if an aspect of the score can be considered a spoilers, but NTTD features 

Spoiler

new arrangements of We Have All The Time In The World AND OHMSS main title theme

 

[Naïve Old Fart 7496]

1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said:

I think that's the first ... the others usually feature Bond, the leading lady/ladies and sometimes the villain. The 'support team' don't usually get a look-in.   

I suppose they have to cast their net as demographically wide, as possible, these days.

 

 

 

 

 

18 hours ago, Tallguy said:

How many Bond posters have actually had Q?

 

Not many! 

[Jurassic Shark 9303]

17 minutes ago, Anthony said:

Not sure if an aspect of the score can be considered a spoilers, but NTTD features 

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new arrangements of We Have All The Time In The World AND OHMSS main title theme

 

 

Arranged by HanZ' minions? No thanks!

[Tallguy 1486]

3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

Arranged by HanZ' minions? No thanks!

 

The really shocking reveal is that the Zimmer Ninjas are at this moment sneaking into everyone's physical and digital collections an erasing all traces of Barry's recordings. HEY! Even The Incredible's teaser is now Zimmer!

 

5 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

I think that's the first ... the others usually feature Bond, the leading lady/ladies and sometimes the villain. The 'support team' don't usually get a look-in.   

 

The old posters at least used to have the "Massive Military Force in a Battle Scene". Man, I miss posters like that. Kind of like Luke / Leia / Vader / ALL THE X-WINGS IN THE GALAXY!

[Jurassic Shark 9303]

2 hours ago, Tallguy said:

Man, I miss posters like that. Kind of like Luke / Leia / Vader / ALL THE X-WINGS IN THE GALAXY!

 

Yeah! Like, at least 50!

[Mephariel 309]

On 9/18/2021 at 12:26 AM, Anthony said:

 

He seems to be quite upfront about working with Steve Mazzaro, so who knows.

 

He also isn't being all "this is something you've never heard before, and it's the greatest thing ever", which gives me hope that it's just trying to sound like a Bond score and hasn't been Zimmerfied.

 

The very short snippets that are out there sound fun, though they do make me wonder, "Why didn't you just get David Arnold back?".

 

Hans Zimmer himself said on the podcast that loved the passion and respect David Arnold brought to Bond and he needed to pay respect as well and stay true to the spirit of Bond and kept that timeless style but make it more modern. He specific mentioned that he was not trying to turn this into Interstellar.

 

And I love David Arnold's Bond scores, but the last thing they need to do is to bring him back already. What makes Bond interesting is that it is a one of those franchises where we can debate which Bond is the best and which Bond composer is the best. They should switch the composer for every Bond film, or at least, every couple.

[Anthony 562]

5 minutes ago, Mephariel said:

They should switch the composer for every Bond film, or at least, every couple.

 

I'm wouldn't be against this at all, as long as it wasn't just rotated between RC folks. Desplat, Pemberton, Powell...gimmie!

 

I've a fondness for Arnold because he's been consistently reliable.

[Mephariel 309]

11 minutes ago, Anthony said:

 

I'm wouldn't be against this at all, as long as it wasn't just rotated between RC folks. Desplat, Pemberton, Powell...gimmie!

 

I've a fondness for Arnold because he's been consistently reliable.

 

Powell has roots in RCP too...And even though Desplat may be the only composer who can make a Bond score more boring than Newman's, I absolutely would love to hear what he comes up with as well. But I think there are a lot more interesting names out there than the ones you listed: George Kallis, Debbie Wiseman, Thomas Clay, Bear McCreary, Ludwig Göransson, Daniel Hart, Nicholas Britell, etc.