Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The 90's is now 30 years ago! Oh come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quppa 117 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Arnold reiterating that he was never approached: Fabulin, 1977 and MikeH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,015 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Perhaps he just doesn't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1977 1,743 Posted January 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2020 Spinmeister at FSM created a custom cover... Richard Penna, Bayesian, Edmilson and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,015 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Link doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,291 Posted January 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2020 Zimmer's got this down to a fine art now. All he needs to click is File > Open Project > Dark Phoenix > Select All > Increase Tempo > Render Project 1977, Arpy and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,667 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Koray Savas said: Welp, JWFan certainly hasn’t changed in the past 20 years. I look forward to Kaya's next interview where he repeatedly tells <insert name> that he thinks their score is the best Bond score. 19 hours ago, Larry O said: Powell would have done this right. Giacchino probably would have done a pretty good job as well, considering he's knocked out two Barry homages already on The Incredibles. But I get the feeling the producers didn't put any more thought into it than "Can we get Zimmer, let's get Zimmer." Arnold probably wasn't asked because it likely never occurred to anyone to ask anyone BUT Zimmer. This strikes me as closest to what likely happened. They didn't like whatever Romer was doing, and rather than going into a protracted composer search, just thought of the quickest and easiest solution which is to call Zimmer and see whether him or a clone are interested/available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 No matter what your opinion is on any of the actual music, it's just a fact that in the modern film industry, "rescuing" film scores at the last minute is a Remote Control specialty. A signature calling card for the studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Dan Romer was a patsy, part of a plan by RC to insert themselves into the project as 'saviours'. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,291 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: No matter what your opinion is on any of the actual music, it's just a fact that in the modern film industry, "rescuing" film scores at the last minute is a Remote Control specialty. A signature calling card for the studio. The really sad thing is that if they existed fifteen years ago, we would never have scores like JNH's King Kong. That would almost certainly have gone to RC. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,380 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, crumbs said: The really sad thing is that if they existed ten years ago, we would never have scores like JNH's King Kong. That would almost certainly have gone to RC. That's a terrifying thought, considering how mediocre and forgettable Henry Jackman's score to Kong: Skull Island turned out. The Illustrious Jerry, 1977 and crumbs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,291 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 That's being kind. "Headache inducing noise" might be a more apt description. Edmilson and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I dont hate Jackman. But Kong was definitely one of his weakest works (well that and Civil War) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,380 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Civil War was at least a fun, orchestral score, I think the biggest orchestra of Jackman's career. And I like the End Credits suite: A much better score than the infamous Winter Soldier. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I enjoy Winter Soldier, but I understand why its not liked. It'd be funny if Jackman had gone from Kingsman to James Bond too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The main theme of Kingsman is killer - specially when it explodes with full orchestra backing. Would be awesome to have something like that for Bond for the actions scenes. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Arpy said: Dan Romer was a patsy, part of a plan by RC to insert themselves into the project as 'saviours'. Lol wut 2 hours ago, crumbs said: The really sad thing is that if they existed fifteen years ago, we would never have scores like JNH's King Kong. That would almost certainly have gone to RC. They did exist 15 years ago, and JNH’s King Kong was recorded with Remote Control. gkgyver and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Yeah it was the same year as Batman Begins, when JNH was most associated with RCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: ...and JNH’s King Kong was recorded with Remote Control. Not following? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Not following? Blake Neely and Mel Wesson composed additional music alongside Chris Bacon. Alan Meyerson recorded and mixed the score. JNH and Zimmer are friends and collaborators. Remember this was 2005 post-Batman Begins. Many Howard scores around that time had RCP crew working on them. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 And King Kong was something of a rush job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,380 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Blake Neely and Mel Wesson composed additional music alongside Chris Bacon. Wait, what exactly did Neely, Wesson and Bacon (lol) composed? I remember downloading the complete sheets from King Kong from that extinct forum that worshipped the iconic japanese RPG series, but JNH was credited as composer from every single one of the cues. And there's nothing on that score that doesn't sound like him, either. Unless maybe the atmospheric village music when the crew are entering the island, that was probably Mel Wesson indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,667 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 It may have been partly written by RCP crew but the whole score still sounds good, because PJ asked for good music. If Zimmer offered the right minion and the Broccolis asked for a similarly orchestral score, there's no reason we couldn't get the same sort of score. But we won't, because they've almost certainly asked Zimmer for the usual dronings and rhythms. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Wait, what exactly did Neely, Wesson and Bacon (lol) composed? I remember downloading the complete sheets from King Kong from that extinct forum that worshipped the iconic japanese RPG series, but JNH was credited as composer from every single one of the cues. And there's nothing on that score that doesn't sound like him, either. Unless maybe the atmospheric village music when the crew are entering the island, that was probably Mel Wesson indeed. Yes, Mel Wesson typically does ambient music design. Couldn’t tell you what Neely and Bacon (his middle initial is P btw) did specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Disco Stu said: No matter what your opinion is on any of the actual music, it's just a fact that in the modern film industry, "rescuing" film scores at the last minute is a Remote Control specialty. A signature calling card for the studio. There wouldn't have been need for rescue, had the wilted Broccoli gotten a clue earlier and not brought Romer on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,667 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Well if everyone had that attitude no one would ever get a break. But maybe they left him more to it than they should have, i.e. done more demos, and gotten the idea sooner that it wasn't working. Zimmer's team will provide a 'safe' score very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,380 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I'm actually curious to see what Romer delivered that made them fire him. Was it so "out there" and "off putting" for an action spy movie? But Romer doesn't seem the kind of guy that would deliver a very experimental score right when he get the biggest chance on his career - or is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I'm actually curious to see what Romer delivered that made them fire him. Was it so "out there" and "off putting" for an action spy movie? But Romer doesn't seem the kind of guy that would deliver a very experimental score right when he get the biggest chance on his career - or is he? I don’t think he can physically write a blockbuster score. Listening to his work it’s clear dude is an indy composer and probably not by choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 392 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Arpy said: Dan Romer was a patsy, part of a plan by RC to insert themselves into the project as 'saviours'. So you think Romer was a scapegoat to make RC look good? Wonder how much they paid Romer to do it. Very interesting theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,380 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Zimmer comes to Romer's house and says: Do you want to break BIG on this industry? All you have to do is follow my instructions. Then, I can put you into anything you want. Do you like Ridley Scott? You can be on his next movie. Like super-heroes? I can put you on the next DC movie. Prefer documentaries? You can get a job at an upcoming Nat Geo nature doc. Do you want to be as beloved as Ramin Djawadi? I can put you into the next fantasy show, like Lorne on His Dark Materials. Anything you want... anything you wish... all your wildest dreams can become true... if you just kneel and pledge your alliance for all eternity. Also, I'm gonna need your soul too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Romer, do everyhting we asked of you and you might get an additional music credit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Well if everyone had that attitude no one would ever get a break. Oh PLEASE. Have you heard some of his music? It's like hiring Gustavo Santaolalla for Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, gkgyver said: Oh PLEASE. Have you heard some of his music? It's like hiring Gustavo Santaolalla for Star Wars. Hey that'd be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,380 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Santaolalla did an orchestral score before for some Mexican animated movie... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I liked his Last of Us music. Very dark and disturbing score. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, gkgyver said: Oh PLEASE. Have you heard some of his music? It's like hiring Gustavo Santaolalla for Star Wars. I wish Nathan Johnson could have scored The Last Jedi, at least we would have gotten something new and different. Romer is a fine composer, but even giants like Desplat get fired off of tent pole projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antovolk 95 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli confirmed today that composer Hans Zimmer will score the latest 007 adventure, No Time To Die. “It’s a dream come true to be working with the legendary composer Hans Zimmer on our twenty- fifth James Bond film, No Time To Die,” said producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. While director Cary Joji Fukunaga echoed their statement, “I’m beyond excited that Hans is scoring No Time To Die. The music of Bond has always been iconic and I’ve already witnessed Hans adding his touch of genius to the Bond legacy.”https://www.007.com/hans-zimmer-to-score-no-time-to-die/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,667 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 What a predictable and gushy load of crap. You just need a functional score really quickly. crumbs and gkgyver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Yeah, it was such a dream to them that they would have also settled for Dan Romer, had he delivered something adequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 8:28 PM, Koray Savas said: I wish Nathan Johnson could have scored The Last Jedi, at least we would have gotten something new and different. The only person who should be scoring SW music from now on is Powell. Giacchino is blacklisted from future movies (allegedly from the maestro’s own mouth) Nobody knows who McKneely is so he won’t get hired unless Seth McFarland makes a Star Wars movie. I say give Debbie Wiseman a chance and let the fucking dice roll. LVK is a bomber score. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I couldn't really care less how new and different the music of Last mf Jedi (of all things) could have been. It's one score and JW barely works anymore. gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Fargo said: Giacchino is blacklisted from future movies (allegedly from the maestro’s own mouth) Why? His score was alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Þekþiþm said: Why? His score was alright. All I know is that one dude who used to have that sexy-beach-selfie-avatar talked about some second hand knowledge he had regarding how JW felt about Giacchino’s Rogue One effort: Who knows how accurate it is though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Heard this reported on a radio news bulletin earlier as 'The new Bond film No Time To Die's score will be written by Hans Zimmerman'. I had no idea he was related to Bob Dylan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The thought of Williams personally demanding Giacchino to be blacklisted to Kennedy makes me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Williams sounds like a horrible person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 It’s not like Williams did anything worthwhile with the ST, why is he giving Giachinno a hard time who had like 5 minutes to do RO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: It’s not like Williams did anything worthwhile with the ST, why is he giving Giachinno a hard time who had like 5 minutes to do RO. Giachinno has never done anything worthwhile for a film though. His best stuff was in video games in TV. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bilbo said: Giachinno has never done anything worthwhile for a film though. I'm no Gia fan, but I'm not so sure about that. He's created magic for film before... Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 “Worthwhile” is in the eye of the beholder and blah blah blah, but the first 3 Pixars and ST09 are basically why Gia is where he is in Hollywood. I can respect John Carter and Beyond’s Yorktown Theme, and I have a soft spot for Super 8 too. Also Roar! kind of rules. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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