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https://filmconcertslive.com/movies/superman/     No bookings yet, but...   ....HOLY SHIIT!!!!      

It's an HP1 cue, but the beginning was cut from the movie. I don't understand why you can't play those cues in full in film concerts as the music clearly takes centre stage in such events.

Well, for what it's worth, I'll be in London for the Sunday night performance of ROTJ and this so why not?   Karol

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On 10/1/2019 at 9:45 AM, SyncMan said:

Gosh darn, you blokes! ;)

 

Royal Philharmonic Orchestra at the RAH, October 27th, 2020

https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/events/2020/superman-in-concert/

Priority Booking for Royal Albert Hall Friends & Patrons opens at 10am on October 2nd, 2019

Tickets go on general sale at 10am on Friday, October 4, 2019

 

Postponed!

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Prior to the pandemic, I was planning on returning to London this year to attend at least 3 out of these 5 concerts coming to RAH this fall

 

Oct 2/3 Fellowship of the Ring LTP
Oct 23-25 Return of the Jedi LTP
Oct 28 Superman LTP
Oct 27 The Matrix LTP
Oct 30 Final Fantasy VII Remake

 

What an astonishing lineup!  I'm sure all will be postponed/canceled now

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A comment from Citi Light Concerts in their October 18, 2020 post of their Facebook page, confirms that this concert version will have no live voices, but the 'choir' will be coming from a synthesizer.

 

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"There won't be a choir involved in Superman – in Concert. Again, because there are only very few passages with vocal parts. Vocal parts in "Destruction of Krypton" (distantly adult choir) and "The Fortress of Solitude" (eerie, high female voices) will be featured on a synthesizer."

 

 

 

 

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On 9/22/2020 at 7:10 AM, SyncMan said:

Rescheduled for January 15, 2021.  Only KKL is doing one show instead of the 2 that was originally scheduled for May 2020.

 

https://www.citylightconcerts.ch/event/superman-in-concert-kklluzern/

Post Poned.pngPostponed!  No date announced.

«Superman» – in Concert (kkl-luzern.ch)

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In the remaining half of the end credits for ‘Superman’, the ‘Love theme from Superman’ cue was used with some micro-edits. Mike M. said in the FSM forum that this cue won’t be played at the LTP concert.

 

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=124036&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=11&r=227#bottom

 

So, what are they going to do after the Superman march finishes… let the credits continue to roll upward without music until it finishes?

 

The production company handling this concert, Film Concerts Live, did this in the early performances of the ‘Jurassic Park’ LTP concert where a shorter piece of music for the end credits sequence was used. However, in later performances, the speed of the credits, rolling upward, was slightly faster so that it would end just as the new music ends. This was also done with the LTP concert of ‘SW:TFA’. 

 

The only other time that I’ve seen FCL have the ending portion of a movie's end credits go without music was in the 2018 world premiere of their production, ‘Jurassic World – In Concert’.  However, in that instance, composer Michael Giacchino and director Colin Treverrow came on stage and did some talking while the musicians disassembled. 

 

With that one cue gone from the ‘Superman’ LTP concert, the duration of the end credits roll-up would have to be half the speed of the film version to fit the length of, even, the original end credits arrangement of the Superman march (the one that ended up being used in the film’s opening credits). One option would be to speed-up the name rolling. My concern is that by doing it that way, the names would whiz by so fast that the audience would not be able to read them. I’ve seen this done on movies being broadcast on TV. This practice would look silly on a large theatre screen.

 

To experiment with this idea, I made a video where I did the following:

  • Made a music track using the opening portion of the main title march, an ample portion of the end title march, and the ending portion of the main title march with the ‘swell and the crash’, in that order. Basically, I used the album track, ‘Theme from Superman’ for my music track. (For a better understanding of the recorded versions of the march and how they are used in the finished film, go to pages 58-59 of the blue-bounded book from FSM’s ‘Superman – The Music’ CD set. You still have it, right?)
  • A portion of the film’s closing-credits that is sped-up to finish at the end of the music.

As I was watching my video on my 42-inch screen TV, I think that FCL might pull this off, short of making a slightly longer duration of the end-credits sequence and have JW write new music for it.

 

What do you think?

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1 hour ago, rough cut said:

Doesn’t July seem a bit to soon for this anyway, a bit too optimistic?

 

 

I am very optimistic that the situation in the UK will have improved sufficiently by then for the concert to go ahead in July.  The vaccination programme in the UK is going very well at the moment and if it continues as it is now, most of the adult population of the country will have been vaccinated by then.  Most of my colleagues at work will have been vaccinated by the end of this month, for example.

 

There is also optimism that the Euro 2020 (now 2021) matches will go ahead in June (several group games, both semi-finals and the final are scheduled to take place in London) and this will be a bellwether for other mass attendance events in London.  Keep an eye out for the announcement of the 2021 BBC Proms programme - usually in April - which will run from mid-July to mid-September.  If that goes ahead, expect this to go ahead too.

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So how does one enter the UK? What are the restrictions currently?

 

A google search tells me there’s a 10 day quarantine when you arrive from abroad. That makes it practically impossible to travel there and attend the concert for an extended weekend.

 

Anyone else having the same issues?

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On 5/6/2021 at 6:45 PM, rough cut said:

So how does one enter the UK? What are the restrictions currently?

 

A google search tells me there’s a 10 day quarantine when you arrive from abroad. That makes it practically impossible to travel there and attend the concert for an extended weekend.

 

Anyone else having the same issues?

 

Form which country would you be travelling, @rough cut?  Fingers crossed it's the Faroe Islands, St. Helena or Ascension Island!

 

Today the UK government announced a 'traffic light' system for arrivals from overseas.  There are currently twelve 'green list' countries from which arrivals will not have to quarantine, in addition to the existing arrangements with our friends from Ireland.  Arrivals from all other countries are required to quarantine for ten days, either at home (for amber list countries) or at a government-specified hotel (for red list countries).  The system is reviewed every three weeks, so bear in mind that things could have changed for the better or worse by July.  There is a £10,000 fine for breaking quarantine rules, just so you know.

 

Incidentally, the Royal Albert Hall is planning to have audiences at full capacity from 6th July, subject to government guidelines, which would be great.

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On 2/3/2021 at 6:19 AM, SyncMan said:

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KKL Luzern, Switzerland 

Citi Light Symphony Orchestra, Anthony Gabriele, conductor

 

New Date:

June 4th, 2021

«Superman» – in Concert | City Light Concerts

 

Postponed, again.

https://www.citylightconcerts.ch/konzerte/

 

I wonder if Film Concerts Live will make the RAH postpone their date.  Citi Lights Concerts has promoted themselves as the one who will do the 'World Premiere' of this concert.  Maybe they paid extra to FCL to make sure they get that 'world premiere' credit.

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On 5/7/2021 at 9:08 PM, Omen II said:

Incidentally, the Royal Albert Hall is planning to have audiences at full capacity from 6th July, subject to government guidelines, which would be great.


Great news for people who will be going!

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Another reason why I’m wondering whether the RAH may consider canceling this concert is because there’s still plenty of seats left to sell for this show.  This is a screenshot I made this morning.

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As you can see, there’s still some orchestra seats left and plenty of tier seats available.

 

I was thinking that tickets holders for ‘Supes – In Concert’ from KKL-Luzern, Switzerland would come down to the UK and fill those seats up, since their show was cancelled, but it would be a hassle for them, despite the one-hour-plus train ride.  According to Gov.uk...

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england

 

…they would have to make a 10-day quarantine stay.  Wasting money on a trip to another country all to spend 10 days indoors for a one-night event doesn’t sound attractive. 

 

If the RAH were to do the show as scheduled, they may not make the money back from the cost of putting on this concert.  In America, amphitheater venues, held outdoors, aren’t booking L2P concerts this summer because they still need to provide social-distancing for the audience.  Less audience equals less money.  Because of the cost that these venues have to pay for these L2P rentals…

  

On 1/15/2016 at 10:50 PM, ricsim88 said:

Apparently those guys wanted $60k for us to do Home alone...and that was before paying the orchestra and other production costs...not cheap

 

…the venues won’t make back the cost of producing them as a result of less attendance.

 

I think that is the main reason why the RAH would postpone this concert and not because Film Concerts Live (FCL) will make them do it, so that the KKL-Luzern will keep their ‘world premiere’ credit.

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KKL Luzern, Switzerland 

Citi Light Symphony Orchestra, Anthony Gabriele, conductor

 

New Date:

Friday, January 28, 2022

 

https://www.citylightconcerts.ch/event/superman-in-concert-kklluzern/

 

The description reads that it will be the 'world premiere', so the RAH will have to schedule this after January 28th.

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On 7/15/2021 at 12:00 PM, SyncMan said:

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KKL Luzern, Switzerland 

Citi Light Symphony Orchestra, Anthony Gabriele, conductor

 

New Date:

Friday, January 28, 2022

 

https://www.citylightconcerts.ch/event/superman-in-concert-kklluzern/

 

The description reads that it will be the 'world premiere', so the RAH will have to schedule this after January 28th.


The Royal Albert Hall performance has now been rescheduled to 25th June 2022.

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Thanks for reporting that, @Omen II.

 

Wondering if any orchestra in the world can still put 'Superman' on after January, or do they have to wait until after June when the RAH is finished with it?

 

Here in the USA and Canada, there are still a few orchestras that haven't posted their new year's schedule of concerts so I'm wondering if these orchestras will put 'Superman' on during the later Winter/early Spring '22?

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