A24 4,331 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 All my favorites are in the top 10. Who would have guessed?! https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/the-100-best-science-fiction-films-of-all-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I've only seen 1 movie in the top ten, and 26 of the movies total - some of which I really loved, some of which I actively disliked. Guess I don't have those nerd bonafides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, mstrox said: I've only seen 1 movie in the top ten ... The Godzilla movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Alien (of the three Alien movies I've seen, my third favorite Alien movie!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, mstrox said: Alien (of the three Alien movies I've seen, my third favorite Alien movie!) How unnerdy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Godzilla! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Surprised to see The World's End in there. Then again, it is bloody awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 What's slant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Dieter Stark said: What's slant? Something that exists outside the JWFan bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Skipped ahead to see what they listed as #1. Glad they got that one right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I’ve seen 46 of them that I can remember, I know I’ve seen a few more, but they were probably forgettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, John said: Skipped ahead to see what they listed as #1. Glad they got that one right! Same as your like count! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 AI at #12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I've seen 38 of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Interesting list. Some are ranked too high, some too low. And some obvious gems are missing altogether. But then it also has its fair share of reasonable and/or cool, creative picks. I've seen 69 of these films; I'm particularly missing a few of the old Eastern European ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Nice mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I've seen 49 of these. The top 10 probably had the most gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Koray Savas said: AI at #12? Too low. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 #1 is a foregone conclusion. Any SF poll that does not have 2001, at #1 is not worth taking any notice of. SOLYARIS below both VIDEODROME, and LA JETÉE? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 Of course, one could argue whether Alien is really a science fiction film. I mean, some say it's foremost a horror movie because the futuristic science itself doesn't play a major role in the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 There's a robot guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 He doesn't have to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 John Carpenter's The Thing in the Top 10 is just wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Yeah. Tell me about it. It should be top 5. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 They have used the broadest possible definition of sci-fi. Some of them are kinda dramas with the sci-fi just providing the context for it with the story not engaging with any scientific fictional elements at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 ...and some films are pure allegory. I express a personal disappointment that 2010 is not somewhere on that list. It deserves more than being regarded as an add-on. BACK TO THE FUTURE? 1986? THE TERMINATOR? 1985? Reeeeealllllly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 14 hours ago, mstrox said: There's a robot guy Star Wars is filled with robots and yet it's Fantasy. It's Lord Of The Rings put in space. 11 hours ago, Brundlefly said: John Carpenter's The Thing in the Top 10 is just wrong! Well, I agree. I've always been was a bit baffled with why that movie is considered to be one of the best sci-fi works ever made. Not that it's bad, mind you, but to rank it amongst the very best science fiction movies?! Heck, can we even call it sci-fi? 9 hours ago, Richard said: I express a personal disappointment that 2010 is not somewhere on that list. It deserves more than being regarded as an add-on. Maybe it arrived at 101? Personally, if I was Slant, I would have forgotten about it too. Slant ... Alex Slant. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Very few sci fi movies are 'pure' sci fi movies, whatever that is; they're usually a combination of various genres. As is the case in genre theory in general. Although several of the films in the list have these traits, I see no problem in their eligibility for such a project. Films like THE THING and ALIEN are definitely sci fi movies, even if they have a powerful horror/monster genre aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Yes, but within the context of a "100 best" you need to define whether you're ranking the best science fiction movies, or the best movies which are also sci-fi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I mean, I never think of Jurassic Park as being a sci-fi movie, even though it clearly has science fiction elements at its core. But it's an adventure movie at heart. I'm not above to get my back up about it being featured on some sci-fi list though, I'm not going to split hairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I'm sure they have their parameters. When we do genre lists, we tend to inform the readers about the parameters in the lead paragraps. Others, like Slant, no doubt have a more internal set of parameters. I agree with Quint, no reason to split hairs on eligibilty. I'm more concerned about the omission of certain titles (EVENT HORIZON would be a top 10 contender for me, for example, and it's not even on their list). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The central concept of Star Wars is supremely unscientific and supernatural. That is why it is not sci-fi but fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The Empire Strikes Back is on the list, so it’s sci-fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Thor said: I'm sure they have their parameters. When we do genre lists, we tend to inform the readers about the parameters in the lead paragraps. Others, like Slant, no doubt have a more internal set of parameters. I agree with Quint, no reason to split hairs on eligibilty. I'm more concerned about the omission of certain titles (EVENT HORIZON would be a top 10 contender for me, for example, and it's not even on their list). As much as I dislike that film, I found its omission odd as well, especially considering that Resident Evil is on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: As much as I dislike that film, I found its omission odd as well, especially considering that Resident Evil is on there. (Most of) the RESIDENT EVIL films are great -- and highly underrated as a mythological creation -- but they pale in comparison to EVENT, which IMO is one of the best films of the 90s regardless of genre. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Event Horizon: Or How So A Promising Film Can Turn Out To Be Such A Dud In The Last Act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Soon to be a TV series. @Thor Out of interest, do you like Event Horizon out of a love for its schlocky panto scares, or is it something more than that? Because I'm a fan of the movie, as an entertaining B-grade corny horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 It looks great and is well acted, but it just doesn't amount to much in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 The only redeeming qualities of EH are the sets and optical effects. However, the worst aspect is its poor direction. That's why you won't find this movie on any list! Alex Slant, at your service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Jesus, the RE flicks are hilarious schlock, but nothing I'd ever want to watch again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 One thing I like about Event Horizon is how it shamelessly rips off Alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Quintus said: Soon to be a TV series. @Thor Out of interest, do you like Event Horizon out of a love for its schlocky panto scares, or is it something more than that? Because I'm a fan of the movie, as an entertaining B-grade corny horror. It has Kathleen Quinlan, so it's not all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I’ve seen #1 2001, #40 Forbidden Planet, #41 Dark City, #44 The Empire Strikes Back, #53 E.T., #61 Back to the Future, #77 Planet of the Apes, #98 Flash Gordon (I think just part of it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 That's a pretty good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The Human Adventure Is Just Beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Quintus said: Soon to be a TV series. @Thor Out of interest, do you like Event Horizon out of a love for its schlocky panto scares, or is it something more than that? Because I'm a fan of the movie, as an entertaining B-grade corny horror. Something more than that -- primarily its use of various 'eye' and 'portal' imagery as visual motifs relating to the soul (or corruption of the soul), as well as the use of green and red as indicators for life and death. It has one corny, out-of-place sequence that seems to be from another film, almost (shortly after the ship is sabotaged), but the rest is fantastic -- including the operatic, Clive Barker-ish final act. I go into some more detail in this article -- in Norwegian, but pretty intelligible through Google Translate: https://montages.no/2017/08/event-horizon-1997/ Quintus and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Why didn’t they include The Last Jedi on the list? Are they anti-woman or only anti-racehorse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share Posted August 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Pellaeon said: Why didn’t they include The Last Jedi on the list? Here's why: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Here's why: Great scene! mstrox, A24 and Holko 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share Posted August 15, 2019 Only on JWfan! I mean, I thought it was funny, but if I was a hardcore Star Wars fan, my world would have been over. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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