Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 He's notable enough to have his own thread. His main credits theme for the new Dark Crystal show on Netflix was released today. I have to admit I'm not overly impressed. Maybe it'll grow on me when I watch the series. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If you’re not impressed or compelled by him, why only draw attention to his lack of talent by giving him his own thread?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 He's had some very good scores. I'm just not impressed with this cue on first listen. Check out The Old Man & The Gun or The Man from UNCLE! They're good. Edit: As pointed out by Koray, I mixed up Daniel Pemberton with Daniel Hart, the composer of The Old Man & The Gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I like Pemberton, and think he's done some solid work. But this is a very far cry from Trevor Jones otherworldly original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I like his score to Ocean's 8 a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I liked Spider-Verse in context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 I did too. It was very bold and interesting, which is more than most film scores manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I thought his Steve Jobs score was pretty good as well. Had some inspired moments. Bilbo and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: He's had some very good scores. I'm just not impressed with this cue on first listen. Check out The Old Man & The Gun or The Man from UNCLE! They're good. Daniel Hart scored The Old Man & The Gun. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Koray Savas said: Daniel Hart scored The Old Man & The Gun. Heh, oops! Wrong Daniel. Well, The Man from UNCLE is a good score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Sure is! His best score, in my opinion. I’m also fond of The Counselor. He’s up there with Woody Jackson and Zimmer in channeling his Morricone influence quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: He's notable enough to have his own thread. His main credits theme for the new Dark Crystal show on Netflix was released today. I have to admit I'm not overly impressed. Maybe it'll grow on me when I watch the series. Fine by TV standards but bland by any other. Why not just bring Trevor Jones back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Watered-down LOTR, what did we expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Good composer. His best have been mentioned already: STEVE JOBS, OCEAN'S 8, THE MAN FROM UNCLE. But I always keep my eyes out for him. The DARK CRYSTAL thing should be interesting. Oddly, I was never that big a fan of Jones' original feature film score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Man from UNCLE got me to notice him. Spiderverse got me to love his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliburn 72 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 King Arthur: Legend of the Sword is one of my favorite scores of the last decade. You love it, or you hate it. And of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I've always been surprised the Ocean's 8 score didn't get more love. Sure, the movie was terrible, but the score is super fun! Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 It didn’t particularly stand out to me while watching the film. Need to give it a proper listen on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 OCEAN'S 8 was one of my favourite scores that year. The film was lacklustre, to put it mildly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I like the (admittedly slight) variation on Jones' theme, beginning at 1.28. 12 hours ago, Thor said: Oddly, I was never that big a fan of Jones' original feature film score. What are you talking about, Thor? THE DARK CRYSTAL is a gorgeous score, full of magic, mischief, and wonder...like the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 For some reason, I find both THE DARK CRYSTAL and LABYRINTH kinda grating. Lots of samey chords in the same register. But I love a lot of Jones' other work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 Dark Crystal isn’t a perfect score, but when it works it’s truly magical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Thor said: For some reason, I find both THE DARK CRYSTAL and LABYRINTH kinda grating. Lots of samey chords in the same register. But I love a lot of Jones' other work. Geez, you're right, there, Thor, baby! LABYRINTH is a nasty, patronizing, cloying film. I truly dislike it. The one good thing about it, is UNDERGROUND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 It's been YEARS since I saw it. My favourite Joneses are EXCALIBUR, NATE AND HAYES, THE LAST PLACE ON EARTH, RUNAWAY TRAIN, THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS, G.I. JANE, DARK CITY and AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS. A shame he has basically disappeared off the face of the earth. Last time I heard, he was teaching in his home country of South Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Thor said: It's been YEARS since I saw it. My favourite Joneses are EXCALIBUR, NATE AND HAYES, THE LAST PLACE ON EARTH, RUNAWAY TRAIN, THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS, G.I. JANE, DARK CITY and AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS. A shame he has basically disappeared off the face of the earth. Last time I heard, he was teaching in his home country of South Africa. No love for Cliffhanger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 It's OK, but the highlight is the theme. And Jones did that same theme better in MOHICANS anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Thor said: It's OK, but the highlight is the theme. And Jones did that same theme better in MOHICANS anyway. Ugh. Last of the Mohicans SUCKS. It's just the same thing over and over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Ugh. Last of the Mohicans SUCKS. It's just the same thing over and over Then you need to listen to Varese's rerecording. 17 minutes ago, Thor said: Jones did that same theme better in MOHICANS anyway. That's so true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 New track sounds more solid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 NZ iTunes links with previews: https://music.apple.com/nz/album/dark-crystal-age-resistance-vol-1-music-from-netflix/1477268447 https://music.apple.com/nz/album/dark-crystal-age-resistance-vol-2-music-from-netflix/1477268402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Pemberton totally knocked it out of the park with this one. The score is gorgeous and massively succesful in using the general template of Jones' score (the recorder solos and atmosphere in particular) but it also pays homage to Last of the Mohicans (probably via Hurwitz' First Man) in using minimalist string figures to tie the whole together. This is especially powerful in Today We Fight.... What I find awesome is that he somehow captured the Trevor Jones essence here (or at least the late 90s variation of it). The sweeping melodies, quirky synth stuff, the use of gaelic instruments, and a general sense of melancholia that, to me, always was key Trevor. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 The Sorcerer's Stone motif functions as Chamberlain's motif in the series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Bump. Has anyone else listened to this yet?^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Yes, I've made a few comments in the DARK CRYSTAL thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 About the Sorcerer's Stone motif rip-off? Sorry, didn't see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Sorry, I thought you meant the series and music in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 LOVE the Dark Crystal score! I like the soundscape Pemberton creates, he seems to have a bit of an experimental streak. There are several different prevailing moods, from mysterious, to playful, to scary, but there's a great sense of unity to the whole thing, thanks to the composer's sonic palette. It sounds great on headphones, where you can really be immersed and get lost in the music. It has a very satisfying blend of traditional, organic sounds presented via thoroughly modern-sounding production techniques. Hope they announce the CD release soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliburn 72 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 For who is interested in my thoughts. I have reviewed THE DARK CRYSTAL: AGE OF RESISTANCE. https://soundtrackworld.com/2019/09/the-dark-crystal-age-of-resistance-daniel-pemberton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Is there going to be a CD of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 It'll be "on CD and vinyl in the coming months" according to a press release. So far I haven't found any other info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 'Experimental but safe' is the Pemberton brand, and it's working wonders. No dissing of the man, who by all accounts, including mine, is awesome (I saw him arriving late for the London fan film score convention, running out of the taxi etc, 'excuse' was that he'd got too hammered the night before - respect. The fact that he took what was effectively a fan convention so seriously to still bother turning up and doing talks is in his credit. But again, his The Dark Crystal score is better than any film score done this year - right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, thestat said: But again, his The Dark Crystal score is better than any film score done this year - right?! No, far from it. But when whittled down to a decent presentation, it's a highlight among the TV/film scores this year. Pemberton is a bit uneven in quality, but the aforementioned three titles (STEVE JOBS, MAN FROM UNCLE, OCEAN'S 8) are all top notch, and among the best in their respective years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 What convention are you referring to? Sounds interesting. After listening to more of his scores, my biggest complaint is that he too often relies on loops. He'll build on them, drop out certain instrumental lines, etc. to keep them interesting, but they still get a bit repetitive. I haven't had that problem with Dark Crystal, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, thestat said: But again, his The Dark Crystal score is better than any film score done this year - right?! No. Tydirium and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 His score for that season4 Black Mirror episode was also quite interesting (and not just Star Trek TOS Pastiches, which he did mimic admirably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 16 hours ago, thestat said: But again, his The Dark Crystal score is better than any film score done this year - right?! Far from it. It doesn't hold a candle to Powell's HTTYD3. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Totally agree with some of those comments. Uneven is the Pemberton brand - outside of The Dark Crystal, I don't think he's ever produced a cohesive score. Yes, Jobs has that awesome Glass-ripoff but it does not mix with the rest of the Atari soundscapes. But this works in his favour as he's able to sell this as diversity. Not sure about HTTYD3 - I love Powell, obviously, but this is yet again a case of too much mickey-mousing that is so prevalent in his animation work. If he could get to this level of consistency within the composition of a singular track, awesome: Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 51 minutes ago, thestat said: Totally agree with some of those comments. Uneven is the Pemberton brand - outside of The Dark Crystal, I don't think he's ever produced a cohesive score. Yes, Jobs has that awesome Glass-ripoff but it does not mix with the rest of the Atari soundscapes. But this works in his favour as he's able to sell this as diversity. Have you seen the film (STEVE JOBS)? The music actually reflects the three main acts (or periods) of the film. It's supposed to be three very different approaches or styles of music for each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 The Man From UNCLE is as cohesive as it gets. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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