waptap 1 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Anyone want to weigh in on this "leak" from the ST to Rise of Skywalker? I can't hear the Rey theme as claimed, but kinda hear Kylo's theme (sorta)... and it does sound like it is about to go into the force theme at the abrupt ending.... https://www.reddit.com/user/some_famous_director/comments/czm4m0/tros_the_prodigal_son/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app More opinions on the validity here... https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/czm5um/the_rise_of_skywalker_the_prodigal_son_way_better/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Wow I think its real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 This sounds nothing like Williams... Falstaft and That_Bloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 MikeH and Cerebral Cortex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 It's fake. I'm also inclined to believe that Waptap is just u/some_famous_director trying to screw with us. Look at that karma level on his Reddit page. Lol. As a former troll, I can say for certain that this guy is a freaking amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Some say it's Gods Of Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waptap 1 Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: It's fake. I'm also inclined to believe that Waptap is just u/some_famous_director trying to screw with us. I assure you that I am not that guy (but totally get why you would think that based on being a newbie poster). I am really hoping that this is fake (hence me coming here to recruit the band geeks for opinions -- longtime lurker and John Williams fanboy personally)... I don't like this "track" one bit (especially married to the supposed bendemption scene that is implied)... but it is Williamsy enough for me to be concerned (and I do hear Kylo in there). 3 minutes ago, SteveMc said: Some say it's Gods Of Egypt. Definitely not from Gods of Egypt (which I think is overall vastly superior to this track) Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I don't hear any of the themes. But, the little embellish at 0:53 does sound like a touch John would make. Overall, however, it sounds a tad sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 well in theory someone could have snuck in a cell phone at the recording sessions and recorded but it's likely fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 End almost sounds similar to McNeely's Imperial City from Shadows of the Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaguy 68 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Whatever that is I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The embellishments and orchestration doesn't sound like Williams at all, especially not in Star Wars mode. Nor does the main theme, which lacks his trademark melodic hook. The choir sounds synthy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,650 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Possible leaks will come in the next couple of months that might lead to interesting discussions. This is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waptap 1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 43 minutes ago, Tom said: Possible leaks will come in the next couple of months that might lead to interesting discussions. This is not one of them. Well, Tom, I find it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Nah this doesn't sound like Williams to me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Leak? I'm not detecting any leak... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, Thekthithm said: Leak? I'm not detecting any leak... Don't you people from the 24th Century ever pee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It's music. You dance to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 Leaking supposed Star Wars music seems like a concept that exists only as something a fan would think up to do in order to try and mess with people on the Internet but that nobody actually involved within a professional capacity to the music creation process would ever actually think of doing. You know what I mean? Like, I can't think of anybody who is that closely involved to that aspect of production, somebody who has earned the very esteemed and exclusive privilege to be a part of that process and work with Williams either through their experience and professionalism or what have you, would ever think of leaking something like that. It's also so much easier to track back the source on a leak like that opposed to something like a generic plot leak just because the people involved are so fewer in number. It just seems like something that could only happen through some fan trying to fool people because only a fan would think that leaking Star Wars music would be cool. Sorry. Not being very coherent tonight. crumbs, Bayesian, SingeMoisi and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: Leaking supposed Star Wars music seems like a concept that exists only as something a fan would think up to do in order to try and mess with people on the Internet but that nobody actually involved within a professional capacity to the music creation process would ever actually think of doing. You know what I mean? Like, I can't think of anybody who is that closely involved to that aspect of production, somebody who has earned the very esteemed and exclusive privilege to be a part of that process and work with Williams either through their experience and professionalism or what have you, would ever think of leaking something like that. It's also so much easier to track back the source on a leak like that opposed to something like a generic plot leak just because the people involved are so fewer in number. It just seems like something that could only happen through some fan trying to fool people because only a fan would think that leaking Star Wars music would be cool. This goes way back to the AOTC days when someone tried to pass off some Patrick Doyle track from Quest for Camelot as a new Williams piece from Episode II. It was reasonably decent music but it was hilarious that some people at TFN fell for it, and like you said, something uniquely SW-fandom. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 And someone tried to pass off The Turbulent Years from Nixon as a leaked track from ROTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 And someone tried to pass off the music from Rogue One as Star Wars music. Fabulin, MikeH, A. A. Ron and 11 others 4 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,275 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 SteveMc and Cerebral Cortex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Someone also tried to pass off music from Shadows of the Empire as leaked music from Episode III. Busted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,843 Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 It's not JW music. I hope any member of this forum could listen to this "leak" and immediately arrive at the same conclusion. Falstaft, Fabulin, SteveMc and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I didn’t know JW used orchestra and choir samples from East West Quantum Leap these days! Also funny how this guy claims there’s Rey’s and Kylo’s themes in there. SteveMc and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, Remco said: I didn’t know JW used orchestra and choir samples from East West Quantum Leap these days! Also funny how this guy claims there’s Rey’s and Kylo’s themes in there. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jar Jar 28 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Speaking about leaks, do you know if some of the conductor score of the last jedi or Force Awakens has leaked ? I would love so much to have a look at them (especially last Jedi as the Hal Leonard concert score contains only the Rebelion is Reborn). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,650 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 hours ago, waptap said: Well, Tom, I find it interesting. I might have misspoke. This might lead to an ancillary interesting discussion, but there is no way in hell this music is by Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It might be something form Star Wars Jedi: fallen Order, the new video game. I don't know who is working on that score but definitely that clip sounds closer to a VG than a John Williams score... SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 . The Illustrious Jerry and igger6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Has music from any SW film ever "leaked" before? Aside from official means such as teasers, specials, rides, etc., I don't recall any actual music leaking in this way before the film's release. I'm also surprised Disney hasn't been more intense with the marketing and advertising of this film since it's going to be not only the last film of the Skywalker saga but Williams last Star Wars score as well. Maybe they will starting next month. I'm still hopeful we'll get a short 60 minute special about the music like they did with TFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The Lego game came out before RotS, does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waptap 1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Thekthithm said: This goes way back to the AOTC days when someone tried to pass off some Patrick Doyle track from Quest for Camelot as a new Williams piece from Episode II. It was reasonably decent music but it was hilarious that some people at TFN fell for it, and like you said, something uniquely SW-fandom. 10 hours ago, crumbs said: And someone tried to pass off The Turbulent Years from Nixon as a leaked track from ROTS. 10 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Someone also tried to pass off music from Shadows of the Empire as leaked music from Episode III. Busted! All correct. And all identified as fakes from other cues... so what is the source material for this? Lets bust them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Jar Jar said: Speaking about leaks, do you know if some of the conductor score of the last jedi or Force Awakens has leaked? TFA yes (a few cues), TLJ no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waptap 1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: And someone tried to pass off the music from Rogue One as Star Wars music. Damn, that's harsh. You made Michael cry... 2 hours ago, DrTenma said: It might be something form Star Wars Jedi: fallen Order, the new video game. I don't know who is working on that score but definitely that clip sounds closer to a VG than a John Williams score... This is a contender right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Thekthithm said: This goes way back to the AOTC days when someone tried to pass off some Patrick Doyle track from Quest for Camelot as a new Williams piece from Episode II. Further than that, even: I remember the main title combined with a bit of Bartok’s Concerto for Orchestra being shared as a supposed Episode I leak back in 1999… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,511 Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 This sounds like something Williams would write if he listened to too much modern film music. SingeMoisi, crumbs and SteveMc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 You articulated my thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waptap 1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 14 hours ago, artguy360 said: It's not JW music. I hope any member of this forum could listen to this "leak" and immediately arrive at the same conclusion. I am 99% sure that this is not Williams, but I have not drawn a conclusion. And I'm fine being the only guy in the room that isn't 100% sure... it's no fun always knowing everything and never learning anything. I'd personally just like to solve the mystery as to what soundtrack/composition this came from (I don't think any of these "leaks" has ever gone unsolved, but, hey, get Robert Stack on the line)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The music is synthesized and the bad audio quality is just there to cover that up I think. But because of that you can really 100% sure, because JW never has any mock-ups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Hasn’t he gotten others in the past to do mockups for him based on his sketches of the director requested it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 That may be, but it wouldn’t end up in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 For sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montre 79 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It sounds so far below Williams I’m surprised anybody is being fooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It just doesn't sound like JW. The SW car commercial music did. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I remember him saying in the Book Thief interview that he couldn’t present any mock-ups to the director and he was okay with that. Memoirs of a Geisha comes to mind, it has quite a lot of synths and I *think* I hear some sampled percussion in the final product, but I’m not totally sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 I'm confused. Doesn't JW just write out some basic piano structure and pass it off to others to be fully orchestrated? Will, SingeMoisi, Disco Stu and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Dixon Hill said: I'm confused. Doesn't JW just write out some basic piano structure and pass it off to others to be fully orchestrated? Actually Herb Spencer is writing all these new Star Wars scores.... FROM HELL Score, Remco, Montre and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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