Jay 37,336 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Quote UNIVERSAL PICTURES FILM MUSIC HERITAGE COLLECTION and LA-LA LAND RECORDS CELEBRATE OFFICIAL WORLD PREMIERE RELEASE OF THE ORIGINAL 1935 FRANZ WAXMAN SCORE RECORDING "THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN" WITH A SPECIAL SCREENING OF "BRIDE" ATSLEEPY HOLLOW INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL IN SLEEPY HOLLOW AND TARRYTOWN NY! SUNDAY, OCT 13, 5pm at TARRYTOWN MUSIC HALL TICKETS AVAILABLE STARTING 9/6 at www.TarrytownMusicHall.org Live Q&A with composer Franz Waxman's son, John Waxman, Universal Pictures Film Music Heritage Collection executive Alexia Baum and album producer/restoration expert Mike Matessino "THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN" limited edition CD will be available for purchase at the event in the Music Hall lobby, ahead of the CD's official release date. Universal Pictures Film Music Heritage Collection, La-La Land Records and Sleepy Hollow International Film Festival (SHIFF) present the 1935 classic feature film THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, starring Boris Karloff and Elsa Lanchester, and directed by James Whale. Arguably unparalleled in its genre, THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN has, and continues to enthrall generations with its cinematic power, a vital part of which is the film's astounding original music score by legendary composer Franz Waxman (REBECCA, SUNSET BLVD., SUSPICION, A PLACE IN THE SUN). This screening celebrates the world premiere release (in any format) of the original BRIDE score recording, which has been discovered and meticulously restored. The official, limited edition THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN CD will be available for purchase exclusively at this show, ahead of its release date, in the Music Hall lobby. Post-screening Q&A with John Waxman, son of the composer, Alexia Baum, chief executive of the Universal Pictures Film Music Heritage Collection, and film music restoration producer Mike Matessino — who will take the audience behind the scenes of this beloved classic film and its immortal score. Tickets are available for purchase at www.TarrytownMusicHall.org starting 9/6. Overall SHIFF fest passes, which include this and all SHIFF Music Hall events, are also available at that location now. http://secure.campaigner.com/csb/Public/show/4our-1bglzt--mdn9e-ag4f6q3 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 This is great for 'archivists', no doubt, but I'm more than pleased with the old rerecording. I tend to prefer rerecordings over original recordings for scores this age, even if the sound has been cleaned up considerably. The event itself sounds nice, though. Great to have Waxman's son there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 The Mauceri suite is all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Yes, also great is the 7-minute suite on the LEGENDS OF HOLLYWOOD set (these four CDs are must-haves to any Waxman and/or film music fan, by the way). But a slightly more representative score presentation is the Silva rerecording with Westminster Philharmonic Orchestra and Kenneth Alwyn. It's the only BRIDE album I ever need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Thor said: these four CDs are must-haves to any Waxman and/or film music fan, by the way I've read that the remastering on at least one of these isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Oh WOW. This is incredible from a film score perspective as well as historical. Incredible. My October is stacked or I’d be there. Really looking forward to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: I've read that the remastering on at least one of these isn't very good. I have no issues with either of them. They sound spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Thor said: I have no issues with either of them. They sound spectacular. But aren't some of the content old, original recordings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 No, they're all rerecordings by the Queensland Symphony and Richard Mills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I see I was mixing it up with another release. How's the playing of the Queensland symphony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Gorgeous! These 4 volumes are probably my most treasured Golden Age soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I’ve enjoyed the Silva re-recording over the years and was fortunate, along with a couple of JWFAN members, to see excerpts from this score performed live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 http://visitsleepyhollow.com/sleepy-hollow-international-film-festival/ https://tickets.tarrytownmusichall.org/eventperformances.asp?evt=2316 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I'll be in NYC during this, and was thinking about going to the Frankenstein event, but in the end it may take up too much of my time in the city to get out there and back. Sounds really cool though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I'm getting this. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 So after this is for sale at the Q&A on Sunday the 13th, it will be available to purchase on La-La Land's website on Thursday, October 17th at 12:00 PST Source: https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/photos/a.181243738754/10158012784688755/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I always wondered, did they were really married? Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 10:38 PM, Jurassic Shark said: I'm getting this. Yavar Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 It’s so rare to get a new release of the original recordings from a Golden Age score. A special treat! I’ll be ordering this as well. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, Disco Stu said: It’s so rare to get a new release of the original recordings from a Golden Age score. A special treat! I’ll be ordering this as well. I only hope this sounds even close to as good as the scores from just a year or two later released by Intrada in their epic 11 score four disc Waxman set a couple years ago... was blown away by just how good 30s recording could sound, on that. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, Yavar Moradi said: I only hope this sounds even close to as good as the scores from just a year or two later released by Intrada in their epic 11 score four disc Waxman set a couple years ago... was blown away by just how good 30s recording could sound, on that. Yavar Yeah! I listened to Huck Finn from that set just the other day. My personal holy grail of that time period is the original recordings of Copland’s scores for Of Mice and Men and Our Town. After Intrada released The Red Pony and The Heiress, who knows! Those just sounded ok though. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Yeah they were listenable but not great. I’m glad they were released but they weren’t anything near the Waxman scores from 11-12 years earlier, on that Intrada set. I mean, the 30s scores on that set sound better than the 40s scores on it! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Corellian2019 386 Posted October 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2019 Such a great time at this event last night. I had moderate expectations for the film (the horror films from that period are not exactly high on my to-watch list), but the end result was oddly affecting, even if the acting was over-the-top at times. Plus that thunderstorm scene towards the end was seriously impressive; the sound and editing matches up with most modern films. During the panel discussion, Mike shared a funny story about how he essentially rescued Franz Waxman's score after an indifferent neighbor tossed out a bunch of old reel-to-reel tapes on the driveway during a rainy day, and out of curiosity he decided to check the contents of the tapes; sure enough, Waxman's score was one of them. Acetate discs of the score that were donated to Syracuse University were also used to complete the restoration. A wonderful bonus was meeting some of the fellas from La-La Land after the show. MV couldn't have been nicer. He graciously entertained my questions and talked shop w/ me about some of the minute details of the business, even introducing me to Frank DeWald at one point. I also had the opportunity to chat w/ Mike, albeit for a short time. One humorous detail that wrapped up the evening was hearing some sort of alarm emanate from the nearest firehouse, apparently announcing that a fire truck was departing. I remarked to one bystander that it sounded like a spaceship had come out of the ground and was coming to invade the town Disco Stu, Smeltington, Jay and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Stupid neighbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksparrow900 32 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 comparing the track list to the tracks that have been floating around the new cd contains two pieces that weren't in those tracks but the new cd is missing two short cues that were in those tracks. When the monster carries elizabeth into the cave and when henry and pretorius enter the tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Mike Matessino and Jon Burlingame mentions and quotes in this Variety article. Sounds like the Heritage line has been a big success so far and has opened the door for additional releases down the road! Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I read that there's some music missing from this release, presumably because it couldn't be found. Anybody knows how much is missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I read that there's some music missing from this release, presumably because it couldn't be found. Anybody knows how much is missing? On 10/14/2019 at 4:27 PM, jacksparrow900 said: the new cd is missing two short cues that were in those tracks. When the monster carries elizabeth into the cave and when henry and pretorius enter the tower. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Too bad they didn't include these two cues with dialogue and all as bonus tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Quote Mike Knobloch, the studio’s president of film music and publishing, said “we hope to continue these efforts, unearth more tracks and restore these films to their original glory. It’s basically a side hustle,” he said to audience laughter, “but it’s really rewarding.” I think it's fantastic that a Universal executive is this personally involved in working with the specialty labels and catalog scores generally. A very good sign. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Yea it's awesome and how could it be if Paramount, Warner, Disney, etc all hired Mike to do the same there too! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Then we'd finally get proper releases of Korngold's swashbuckler scores! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Are the re-recordings not good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Some of them are very good, but IMO the energy of Korngold's own conducting is unbeatable. But I meant to write "proper releases of the original recordings". The Tsunami releases are not good enough. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The re-recordings are irrelevant to the question. Of course the original Korngold recordings are worth preserving and releasing if they're in a good enough state to do so. Yavar Moradi and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Hell yea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I read somewhere a long time ago that Korngold's scores were among the recordings Warner didn't bother to keep during their dark ages, so presumably, at best they exist in very incomplete forms in their archives. Thankfully the composer's son, George Korngold, made tape copies of near-complete scores. These were the sources used for the over-processed Tsunami releases and isolated DVD/bluray scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Some of them are very good, but IMO the energy of Korngold's own conducting is unbeatable. But I meant to write "proper releases of the original recordings". The Tsunami releases are not good enough. I'm surprised you can hear energy in the original recordings. The excerpts I've heard sounded like absolute crap, quality-wise of course. I'm all for re-recordings in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I'm surprised you can hear energy in the original recordings. The excerpts I've heard sounded like absolute crap, quality-wise of course. I'm all for re-recordings in this case. That's because you've heard excerpts that aren't properly remastered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: I'm surprised you can hear energy in the original recordings. The excerpts I've heard sounded like absolute crap, quality-wise of course. I'm all for re-recordings in this case. Have you heard the FSM release of Kings Row and The Sea Wolf? That sounds far better than any of the Tsunami releases or that godawful unlistenable Rhino compilation of original Korngold recordings. When that release came out I felt a lot of hope that the rest of the surviving original Korngold recordings would follow, but none ever did and then FSM went out of business. Put me down for the group of people who thinks Korngold conducting his own music has never been bettered by another conductor (Kojian on Varese came closest, I guess). Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Kojian on Varese came closest Agreed! Too bad Kojian did so few score re-recordings. 5 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Have you heard the FSM release of Kings Row and The Sea Wolf? I think I checked it out at one point, but didn't purchase it - these two scores have just never clicked with me. 5 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Rhino compilation of original Korngold recordings. That's actually a good sounding compilation if you do your own noise reduction. It's super easy to do in Audacity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Samples and direct order: https://lalalandrecords.com/bride-of-frankenstein-the-limited-edition/ Artwork preview: http://www.warmbutter.com/cds/brideoffrankenstein.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just listened through this yesterday. It sounds fantastic. I've always loved the rerecording, but it's something special to have the OST also. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The film recording of “The Creation” / “Presenting the Bride / The Explosion” is better than everything! It just has an extra something lacking in the re-recording, better sound or no. And frankly I think Alwyn takes The Creation too fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I like the Mauceri-conducted suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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