Iris 1 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Hi, I love music scores, I’ve even composed a couple so the connection with them is very strong. Latley I’ve been watching trailers and I was just recently watching the Star Wars episode 9 teaser trailer and the soundtrack behind it is absolutely amazing and looking back at other score albums they don’t seem to include the trailer music which to me is short selling it’s spectacular first impressions. So if John William started putting his trailer soundtrack on the albums maybe others would follow, because personally it’s the first impression music and it usually is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites
oierem 52 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 John Williams doesn't usually compose the music for the trailers. Most composers don't actually. Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Stu 10283 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6021 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, oierem said: John Williams doesn't usually compose the music for the trailers. Most composers don't actually. Yeah, it's usually done by the butlers. Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2616 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 no, except if it's something Williams specifically composed Link to post Share on other sites
mstrox 3924 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I think these would be really neat tracks to have. In fact, the earliest versions of this website, back in 1999 or 2000, included downloadable edits of Star Wars trailer music - the Episode I trailer music, if I recall correctly - along with edits of the tracked music in the ANH special edition. The trouble oftentimes would be in the little details. With the exception of the first TFA trailer, all of the sequel trailers have been music written by other composers, adapting Williams' themes. Williams may not want that tagged to his album, or there may be contractual reasons not to include it. I'd buy them as digital downloads in a heartbeat though - they're usually a lot of fun, built to be punchy and drive excitement and emotion in a 60-120 second piece. A different way of listening to Williams' themes. Will 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Remco 469 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 The tracks have their moments, but as already has been said, they’re not written by JW so there’s no way they’d end up on a soundtrack album. It would be sweet if they were compiled on some kind of separate album, but I think it would get headache-inducing pretty quickly. Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2616 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 there's a few neat ones for TFA and TLJ. Maybe thye should put them on you tube with no sfx but never waste album space with these Will 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6021 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 The music to the first TFA trailer was pretty good! Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 3563 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Trailer composers usually release their own albums anyway, don't they? No need to have it on a soundtrack album by other composers. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6021 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Trailer music usually works best in the trailer anyway, combined with dialogue and sound effects and all. Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 3563 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Usually, yes, they're quite formulaic. Although I can understand the appeal or 'rush' of a short piece that follows these parameters -- whether it's by someone like Thomas Bergersen/Two Steps from Hell, E.S. Posthumus, Immediate Music or others. Or oldtimers like John Beal (although I've shunned his music after I was alerted to his political leanings). Other, originally composed trailer pieces have more value, like Goldsmith's JUDGE DREDD trailer. That would actually have been pretty neat on the JUDGE DREDD soundtrack way back when, but there would be probably be all kinds of legal issues involved. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6021 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 There's a lot of golden age original trailer music done by the film composer. I wonder if there exists any compilation album of that. Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter Boelen 625 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Indeed a compilation album would be perfect for this stuff. Adding it to the OST probably means sacrificing something else, but allowing it to stand on its own would compromise nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Man 6944 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I listen to the Mars Attacks! trailer music on the LLL more than the actual score. Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 1430 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 A petition? The execs know that if it were profitable to do so, then they would be doing it. In the case of Williams, I don't want non-Williams droning as part of the OST--in the end, the OST is for the actual movie and written by a given artist, while the trailer is a commercial produced by different artists, different aims and certainly different "talents." Loert 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Arpy 3667 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 The amount of times I've read Amazon reviews give score albums a one star rating because it didn't include the trailer music... Link to post Share on other sites
Iris 1 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Welp who ever does should get some recognition mstrox 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Montre 79 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 In the case of something like the first three Harry Potter movies, where the trailer music was also written by Williams, I would agree with that being a nice inclusion into the soundtrack album. However, in the case with something like the new Star Wars trailers, I personally wouldn’t want that being included. It’s just trailer music, produced by someone else, which happened to use Star Wars themes. Link to post Share on other sites
T.RASK 970 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Most of them sound horrible. Without sound effects and the imagery. Generic synth drums in every bar🤮🤮🤮 Link to post Share on other sites
Arpy 3667 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, hornist said: Most of them sound horrible. Without sound effects and the imagery. Generic synth drums in every bar🤮🤮🤮 Yes, I think that's part of my fascination with trailer music: it sounds great in a theatre with surround-sound with the visuals, but removed from that context it's not as self-sustaining as the film score proper. You notice how cheap it sounds (which is ironic considering the price of software and hardware involved in producing it. T.RASK 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bryant Burnette 366 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Pass. Link to post Share on other sites
Manakin Skywalker 1731 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/24/2019 at 8:46 PM, Iris said: Welp who ever does should get some recognition It's a business that does it, so there's usually a group of people that do the trailer music, not a singular composer. Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 5985 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 The BTTF 3 trailer music is the best part of the BTTF 2 score Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Stu 10283 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 BTTF3 is my favorite Silvestri score. Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 5985 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 It's pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17637 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 It's definitely the BTTF score I've listened to the most times. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6021 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 It's undoubtedly the best BTTF score. Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 5985 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 It's definitely better than 2, but I really love the last 20 minutes of BTTF 1 more than anything in 3. Link to post Share on other sites
cordax 32 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Even the trailer music to the recent star wars movies have been pretty low quality. Just "epic" renditions of williams' themes but with lots of percussion and cheap sounding rising sweep effects. People seem to like them so whatever, but it isnt professional to put a cheap demo track in the same album as a multi-million dollar music production T.RASK and Montre 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6021 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I'd rather have a JW screensaver. Link to post Share on other sites
Holko 5203 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, cordax said: Just "epic" renditions of williams' themes but with lots of percussion and cheap sounding rising sweep effects. Don't forget the emotional piano tinkle! Disco Stu, Montre and cordax 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 5985 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Even JW's music for TFA teaser was nothing special. Link to post Share on other sites
cordax 32 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Even JW's music for TFA teaser was nothing special. jw wrote the music for that? Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 5985 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 He sure did! Link to post Share on other sites
Holko 5203 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 For one of them. Everyone swore on their mother's life he wrote the other one when that came out! Link to post Share on other sites
Manakin Skywalker 1731 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 The reason why is because it was said that John wrote two pieces of trailer music. Everyone just assumed that was the other piece, although now we know that isn't the case. Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Man 6944 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Omg da trailer song for tfa was so epik bro Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 5985 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I never for one second thought the second teaser was by JW. Link to post Share on other sites
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