Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: And in a few months we'll all hear the majority of John Williams' ninth Star Wars score! That's post of the week right there. Will and Not Mr. Big 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 2:15 AM, Dixon Hill said: The effort behind this is inspiring. Making gifs still eludes me. Facebook shitposting groups is where its at. My last effort on Shireposting there got 3.2K reacts, it was glorious. That blade runner effort is a work of art though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Remco 685 Posted November 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2019 Tell me they’re preparing a LTP score or something, not that they’re still recording..... Muad'Dib, Fabulin, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 TFA recorded well into November so this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. TFA did not have reshoots 3 months out from the release, TROS did. I'd be more shocked if JW was finished weeks ago. I think he'll be recording right up until the start of December, even if they're just short inserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 They are still recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SilverTrumpet 638 Posted November 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Remco said: Tell me they’re preparing a LTP score or something, not that they’re still recording..... The government agents from ET cameo in The Rise of Skywalker confirmed? Docteur Qui, Remco, Falstaft and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toothless 963 Posted November 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2019 What saddens me is not that they are still recording and asking Williams to write new music or do rewrites due to scenes changing until the very last minute. What bothers me is that it won’t prevent the music to be butchered in the editing process. Will, Edmilson, crumbs and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 It sure didn't prevent TFA from becoming possibly the most and most badly overedited of the scores, even after 18 rewrites per cue on average! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2019 Y'all sure know how to keep it positive... It’s like King Mark vibes. ”This cue will probably be unreleased for decades” Edmilson, Chewy and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Holko said: It sure didn't prevent TFA from becoming possibly the most and most badly overedited of the scores, even after 18 rewrites per cue on average! It is the horrible modern phenomenon of tinkering and tinkering and tinkering till the very end. Makes me scream - make up your fucking mind and lock the edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Are JJ's Giacchino scores as butchered as JW's score for TFA though? Or is JJ just this relentlessly finicky with his Star Wars films? I feel for JW but he knew what he was getting himself into with JJ coming back. This was always going to end up another mess of revisions and rewrites well into November. It's cute that Don said he was trying to wrap up the score in September; that was never going to happen with reshoots taking place the same month. I also feel for Mike having to make sense of the sessions in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Were there really reshoots happening in the last few weeks? Couldn't be anything too major, as Adam Driver has been going around the festival circuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fabulin 3,511 Posted November 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2019 . Remco, rpvee and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Stop editing your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Remco 685 Posted November 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2019 Muad'Dib, crlbrg and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 So wait, these pictures could still not even be Episode IX, right? JKMS handles all of the LTP scores as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Anything thematic in that music above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, crumbs said: Anything thematic in that music above? The force theme Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: The force theme Thanks, thought the first section was a slightly altered take on Rey's Theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, crumbs said: Thanks, knew it looked familiar. Thought the first section was a slightly altered take on Rey's Theme! That big note at the bottom is Duel of the Fates Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: That big note at the bottom is Duel of the Fates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Thanks, knew it looked familiar. Thought the first section was a slightly altered take on Rey's Theme! There's nothing thematic there, it's just some twinkly percussion (likely vibraphone or glockenspiel) over some cymbal swells. You're being trolled. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I just wanna hear the bloody thing. Anybody got a copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I just wanna hear the bloody thing. Anybody got a copy? Always looking to the future are you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Disco Stu said: So wait, these pictures could still not even be Episode IX, right? JKMS handles all of the LTP scores as well. They’re almost certainly from Episode 9: both posts were tagged by JKMS with #studiomusician. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 hours ago, BrotherSound said: They’re almost certainly from Episode 9: both posts were tagged by JKMS with #studiomusician. Yes you're probably right. My instinct with these things is to have an overabundance of caution. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I like that JKMS is posting these little teases! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Seriously how can they prepare the film for overseas release if they are still recording music? I suppose dubbed dialogue is recorded in advance...but if there have been reshoots.... It's amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 52 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Seriously how can they prepare the film for overseas release if they are still recording music? I suppose dubbed dialogue is recorded in advance...but if there have been reshoots.... It's amazing. I recently learned Jerry Goldsmith’s final recording session for Star Trek: The Motion Picture was November 29th 1979, with a release date of December 7th! Of course, they didn't do simultaneous worldwide releases at that point, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: I like that JKMS is posting these little teases! Very note-y of her. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 . BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/16/2019 at 2:39 AM, crumbs said: TFA recorded well into November so this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. TFA did not have reshoots 3 months out from the release, TROS did. I'm pretty sure it did, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, DominicCobb said: I'm pretty sure it did, actually. Yes, there were sessions well into November with TFA, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, BrotherSound said: Yes, there were sessions well into November with TFA, too. I think @DominicCobb was referring to reshoots. TFA definitely recorded the score until mid-November but I didn't think TFA had reshoots as late as TROS. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 That it is happening, and that it happened in the past is sufficient evidence that it is not only possible but very doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, crumbs said: I think @DominicCobb was referring to reshoots. TFA definitely recorded the score until mid-November but I didn't think TFA had reshoots as late as TROS. Well, it's hard to make a clear comparison because there's so much misinformation going around with TROS, it's hard to know what's true and what's being blown out of proportion. I don't know exactly when TFA stopped doing reshoots, but I remember there were some well into August of that year at least. In Abrams's commentary for the film he mentions many little shots here and there there were added in reshoots, things that could have been added who knows how late. For TROS, maybe the really late reshoots are little things like that, but even that sort of thing would of course affect the score, but maybe not enough to require new recordings? It's all guesswork, really. One thing I always wonder when a movie like this isn't exactly finished yet, how much tinkering can be done at this point? The runtime has been locked in for weeks, and the film has a rating (both necessary for tickets to go on sale). Any more tinkering I'd imagine would have to be minor things. I wonder if the end credits are ever reduced or lengthened to account for different cut that needed to fit an already established runtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, DominicCobb said: I wonder if the end credits are ever reduced or lengthened to account for different cut that needed to fit an already established runtime. Interesting question. I wonder why JW recorded a suite for TFA that ran too short. It needed to extended with the concert version of March of the Resistance but surely JW was working to a set credits duration when he wrote it? I guess unexpected additional work late in post can lead to new credits, if new crew are brought in to help. Clearly part of the TLJ credits must have been locked in advance to allow for JW's musical tribute for Carrie over the written dedication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, crumbs said: Interesting question. I wonder why JW recorded a suite for TFA that ran too short. It needed to extended with the concert version of March of the Resistance but surely JW was working to a set credits duration when he wrote it? I guess unexpected additional work late in post can lead to new credits, if new crew are brought in to help. Clearly part of the TLJ credits must have been locked in advance to allow for JW's musical tribute for Carrie over the written dedication. The TFA end credits are an interesting question indeed, because there are essentially three different suites: the one Williams wrote that made the soundtrack, the edited one that made it into the theatrical film, and the edited one that made it onto the blu-ray. I definitely wonder what happened there. TLJ is another one, but I figure the difference between what's on the soundtrack and what's in the film is more just a case of editing for the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I think the Bluray credits are just extended to include the crew who worked on the home video release, hence using Rey's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Speaking of, anybody bother to look and see if TFA on Disney+ has the theatrical or Blu-ray credits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Speaking of, anybody bother to look and see if TFA on Disney+ has the theatrical or Blu-ray credits... Blu-ray credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/16/2019 at 3:05 PM, Holko said: It sure didn't prevent TFA from becoming possibly the most and most badly overedited of the scores, even after 18 rewrites per cue on average! It also didn't prevent it from becoming on of the best, and most balanced, Star Wars scores. armorb, Not Mr. Big and Docteur Qui 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, crumbs said: I think the Bluray credits are just extended to include the crew who worked on the home video release, hence using Rey's Theme. And Scherzo for X-Wings. Although I don't believe the credits include those who worked on the home video release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 15 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: It also didn't prevent it from becoming on of the best, and most balanced, Star Wars scores. What do you mean by balanced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 18 hours ago, crumbs said: I think @DominicCobb was referring to reshoots. TFA definitely recorded the score until mid-November but I didn't think TFA had reshoots as late as TROS. According to JJ, there were reshoots on TFA than on this one. Quote Despite a deadline crunch to make the film’s Dec. 20 worldwide launch (EW’s interview was conducted in late October), Abrams says he’s feeling “infinitely better” at this very late stage about The Rise of Skywalker than he was about The Force Awakens. “We had more reshoots on Episode VII than this one,” Abrams says. “We had more story adjustments on VII than this one. We didn’t know if these characters would work, if the actors would be able to carry a Star Wars movie. There were a lot of things we didn’t know. On this, we knew who and what worked, and everyone is doing the best work I’ve ever seen anyone do. But the ambition of this movie is far greater than Force Awakens. What we set out to do was far more challenging. Everything is exponentially larger on this.” Was this massive reshoots rumor for TROS ever confirmed? DominicCobb and Remco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 It was never reported in the trades or anything if that’s what you mean. Unlike Rogue One or Solo where the reshoots were big Hollywood stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Jay said: What do you mean by balanced? It's got a lot of new themes but at the same time feels more well rounded than perhaps every SW score since ESB. There's an equilibrium to the way it handles and integrates its themes that I've seen compared to Jerry Goldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hmm, that is interesting, I will have to ponder on that. Do you think Return of the Jedi in unbalanced, in that some themes only appear in certain sections of the movie or are underused? Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Jay said: Do you think Return of the Jedi in unbalanced, in that some themes only appear in certain sections of the movie or are underused? It's a bit like the film in that it has some of the big highlights of the saga but also consists of several wildly disparate segments, some of which tend to drag (Ewoks!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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