Pawel P. 738 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Thor said: Ah, I see the John Williams cameo has already been mentioned here. It just blew my mind when I saw him in those 4-5 seconds. His name is actually credited as Oma Tres, not Trek, in the end credits. I'm wondering if the 'Tres' is a reference to the 'three trilogies' he's now done. 'Oma' can have several meanings; it's slang for 'grandmother' in German, for example. There are other spoiler elements I want to discuss not mentioned here by others, but I'll save that for tomorrow after 9 AM. Oma Tres, Yes! ! Thanks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Arpy said: The DotF fans will be pissed! Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Incidentally, questions and answers about the music in the film should probably go here: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31031-the-rise-of-skywalker-complete-score-as-heard-in-the-film-discussion-spoilers-allowed/ So was it respectful how they used Carrie Fisher in this film, or kinda icky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 Reading this thread and other spoilers, it seems this movie is a mess. Maybe a fun mess, but still a mess. And, the Williams cameo seems a little tacky. He obviously should have been a turtleneck wearing veteran strategist for the Rebellion. Bilbo, Chen G., leeallen01 and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,472 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 WHERE ARE THE SPOILERS? YOU CAN SPOIL HERE!!! GO!!! SPOIL!!! I want to know everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Regarding the cameo, Williams suggestion was for a climatic Reyma scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Bespin said: WHERE ARE THE SPOILERS? YOU CAN SPOIL HERE!!! Geeez, SPOIL! I want to know everything! www.reddit.com/r/starwarsleaks has all the stuff you need. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,472 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Ah, so the leaked script was authentic. Bad, bad, bad. So here's my summary. Palpatine is caught with full tanks of clones who looks like Snoke... Well, the idea of clones was so strong for so many years... so, OKAY, I buy this. Rey seems to be the granddaughter of Palpatine or a thing like that (who cares???) Well, it implies that Palpatine had at least a kid... It seems I'll have to watch The Madalorian to know the whole story... NAAAAA, NEVER!!! I don't know the exact context, but at some point Rey dies. RIP REY. Snif snif. Oh, sorry but not for too long, as Ben, helped by the Force, bring her back... TADAM!!!! (This is the explanation for the title of the Episode... "The Ascension of Rey... Skywalker"!!!!). Because at the end... when Rey is asked what's her name by a character we don't care... she of course answers... I'm Rey... Rey SKYWALKER! - THE END - Ok, so THE WHOLE SKYWALKER SAGA ends like this? Are you serious DISNEY? IT "ENDS"? BULLSHIT. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bespin said: THE WHOLE SKYWALKER SAGA ENDS LIKE THIS? ARE YOU SERIOUS DISNEY? IT "ENDS"? BULLSHIT. One of the latest trailers says "The Final Chapter... Begins" If you think this is the last Star Wars movie about Rey, you're fooling yourself. The "final chapter" is gonna be over multiple films. Disney gonna be Disney and milk this shit for decades. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 By the way, George Lucas wasn't invited to the premiere last night. Disney sucks at everything. Can't resist the Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 So is this movie any good at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 I am sure some people will like it, and some will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,451 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Jay said: So was it respectful how they used Carrie Fisher in this film, or kinda icky? I think so. There isn't a lot of her, for obvious reasons, but the little there is, is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,940 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 From what I gather from the spoilers (and I've only glossed over those), it sounds really wierd, but I'm always for seeing what the filmmakers do with it on the screen. Let's hope its good: that's always better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, gkgyver said: By the way, George Lucas wasn't invited to the premiere last night. Disney sucks at everything. Can't resist the Empire. he wasn’t at the premier. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t invited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I thought the Reddit leak of a few months back sounded like a fanfiction. Which made me kind of think it was legit, because TFA feels like a well-made Star Wars fan movie. This one sounds like it is a very much something like that. Kind of perplexing, though. These people had unlimited funds from Disney, they could have made something truly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bilbo said: he wasn’t at the premier. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t invited. No, of course not. I mean, why would the creator of Star Wars be present at the premiere of the conclusion to his saga? Preposterous. He must have had better things to do. So, the Star Wars saga ends with a blood relative of Sith Lord Palpatine assuming the Skywalker name. Excellent storytelling. Mattris and Chen G. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 3,940 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, gkgyver said: why would the creator of Star Wars be present at the premiere of the conclusion to his saga? Calling The Rise of Skywalker the conclusion of George Lucas' saga is kind of a stretch though... Its the conclusion of the sequel trilogy - no more, no less. SteveMc, Mattris and _deleted_ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Calling The Rise of Skywalker the conclusion of George Lucas' saga is kind of a stretch though... Its the conclusion of the sequel trilogy - no more, no less. I mean, Disney bought his story outlines for a new trilogy under false pretenses, I wouldn't blame him for staying away, but he was still going along with the public marketing of the Disney Star Wars for a long time. What's really revealing is that this isn't a news story. You'd think George Lucas not appearing for the Star Wars Episode 9 Premiere would be a story. But it's apparently top priority to not disturb this film's image until everyone's seen it and it's inevitable. Can't wait for the first "toxic fans" articles. Chen G. and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I love what one of the reviews said, it’s an apology for TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Diego 21 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 It sure sounds like a mess, it seems they’re trying to save face with the whole “we had an idea to where the story was going” and “it was always the plan to bring back Palpatine”, to the point where Kennedy has said that the problem with Trevorrow was that he wasn’t at the early planning of the trilogy. When in reality it looks like Rian Johnson hated the Force Awakens and its very OT status quo of an old evil master and an apprentice who is conflicted between the light and the dark, so he said f*ck it and killed Snoke. Now JJ is back and it looks like he hated The Last Jedi and suddenly with nothing in the previous two movies about it, Palpatine is back and he is a grandfather now. With no build up at all. The dead are talking says the opening crawl. Just awful. Chen G., Bespin, greenturnedblue and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,472 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Another failed trilogy. We had McCallum to blame for the sequel trilogy and now we have Kennedy for this one. Who's next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Feige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, gkgyver said: No, of course not. I mean, why would the creator of Star Wars be present at the premiere of the conclusion to his saga? Preposterous. He must have had better things to do. So, the Star Wars saga ends with a blood relative of Sith Lord Palpatine assuming the Skywalker name. Excellent storytelling. You’ve read the spoilers? Tell me why you think Lucas would want to give up his free time to watch that shite? A. A. Ron and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,472 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 WARNING: "No rich white american lost money in the making of this film." Pheeeeew!!! Lucas is now a drunkard, can you let him rest in peace, mercy? Well, if he's not yet a drunkard, he'll became one when he sees that movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,367 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Don't know if anyone already posted it, but here's the opening crawl: Quote EPISODE IX THE RISE OF SKYWALKER The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast, a threat of REVENGE in the sinister voice of the late EMPEROR PALPATINE. GENERAL LEIA ORGANA dispatches secret agents to gather intelligence, while REY, the last hope of the Jedi, trains for battle against the diabolical FIRST ORDER. Meanwhile, Supreme Leader KYLO REN rages in search of the phantom Emperor, determined to destroy any threat to his power https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/star_wars/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-opening-crawl-has-leaked-online-spoilers-a172255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 So I take it the emperor dies again in this movie? Or his ghost dies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,940 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 If the spoilers are to be believed, it’s actually much more stupid than that; but we’ll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 So the only way for the Prequel Trilogy to become better appreciated is to make a worse trilogy. gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,367 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Don't worry! Much like the prequels, the sequels will become memes on the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,451 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Well, the John Williams cameo will most certainly be a meme. I'm guessing this board will be flooded by new avatars of his image in the film, and people calling themselves 'Oma Tres'. Just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 So Rey is a descendant of Palpatine, who is somehow alive and names herself Rey Skywalker at the end of the movie? gkgyver and Bespin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: If the spoilers are to be believed, it’s actually much more stupid than that; but we’ll see. What do the spoilers say? I only skimmed that wall of text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 There's an anthem of evil on the OST, so I assume evil is featured in this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,472 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: There's an anthem of evil on the OST, so I assume evil is featured in this movie. Does Kathleen Kennedy have a cameo? Tydirium and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: There's an anthem of evil on the OST, so I assume evil is featured in this movie. A power anthem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I don't have any problems so far with anything from the leaks concerning the plot - but that opening crawl text is lame as fuck. The dead speak - a euphemism for the entire trilogy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 56% on Rotten Tomatoes already. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 https://ew.com/movie-reviews/2019/12/18/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,940 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bilbo said: 56% on Rotten Tomatoes already. Wow! Didn’t the other two open at over 90%?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 You know, The Last Jedi had overwhelmingly positive reviews from critics, and the audience was divided. Maybe this time the fans will love it and the critics will shit all over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,940 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Makes sense to me. I’m sure fans will fawn over it as “the resolution of the saga”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Wow! Didn’t the other two open at over 90%?! reading the reviews it seems the biggest problems stem from the fact that they let JJ write it. Just now, Chen G. said: Makes sense to me. I’m sure fans will fawn over it as “the resolution of the saga”. Looking at reaction on reddit and twitter this is definitely not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 53% now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The fandom is fickle. The critics are fickle. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biodome 714 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 18 hours ago, gkgyver said: So, the Star Wars saga ends with a blood relative of Sith Lord Palpatine assuming the Skywalker name. Excellent storytelling. I see it as a conclusion of the Rey-Kylo bond. They are sort of like a unified person, and assuming the name of Skywalker is a way of emphasising that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Why wasn’t this called The Fall of Skywalker? 1 hour ago, Arpy said: The fandom is fickle. The critics are fickle. Never listen to critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Arpy said: The fandom is fickle. The critics are fickle. The fandom isn't fickle. They don't appreciate being called toxic misogynists, racists and sexists, and be told that Star Wars needs to go "beyond" them, only to then be served a nonsensical fanfic of a movie. Pellaeon, SteveMc, Tydirium and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 So what’s the melt your mind scene that Smith was talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Þekþiþm said: 53% now Why do people care what these buffoons think? If an English major came up to you on the street and said I watched this movie, here’s what I think you should think about it, you’d tell ‘em to fuck off. If an English Major comes up to you on Rotten Tomatoes and says I watched this movie and here’s what I think you should think about it....you see it as god’s word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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