Bilbo 3,706 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I assume he’ll be taking over duties shortly Will and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,718 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Lol Anyway it's bound to be something about him scoring some (or all) of the Cassian Andor series. Remco, Chewy, Will and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,525 Posted July 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2019 I assume when they say “best in the series” they’re referring the the series of Rogue One films. Will, Cerebral Cortex, Smeltington and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6,522 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Alex said: I assume when they say “best in the series” they’re referring the the series of Rogue One films. Is Rogue Two out yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,723 Posted July 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2019 Ugh, Rogue One soundtrack talk is the worst. Only kids who listen to soundtracks on YouTube and think MG is a classical composer would say Rogue One's score is the best in the series. armorb, Joni Wiljami, ocelot and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 1,989 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Oh, don’t you see what’s clearly happening here? Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019) - Rejected, replaced by Michael Giacchino Hey, it’s happened to the best of them: Herrmann, Goldsmith, Horner, John Barry. Guess poor Johnny was just overdue… toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,091 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Oh shit, some random people liked Rogue One's score and that must mean they're some authority or speak for a majority of fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,068 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Everyone’s allowed their opinion, even if it’s batshit-crazy and comes from the impaired intellects of zombified screen-starers. Even them. Regrettably. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,225 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 RO isn't bad and has some nice tracks. But I wouldn't put it in the same realm as JW's scores JTWfan77 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,973 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Apparently all the unreleased stuff is better than the released stuff, or so I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,355 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Ah, I've said something along those lines @crumbs, but I'd like to correct myself. Most of my favourite moments in the score are unreleased or are on the FYC, but the OST still has some highlights that I'd count up there. I'm talking about unreleased cues like Rescued/Yavin IV, The Bazaars of Jedha, What Brings You To Scarif?, and Beach Battle (these may not be the actual cue names, but it's how I refer to them) and stuff on the FYC like Good Luck Little Sister and Project Stardust, the former of which is probably one of the best cues of the score IMO. In brief, my opinion is that there's still some great unreleased stuff of higher quality than many tracks on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,973 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Given the trend of Giacchino sessions leaking online, somehow I don't think you'll need to wait long to hear it all. Though it would be the first score in the series to have a session leak (which is surprising, considering all the ownership changes the scores have had). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,068 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Well, that’s a sensible strategy if ever I heard one — let your fan base pay for the weakest parts of your score and save all the good stuff strictly for FYCs or session leaks that only the nerdiest of score nerds will ever hear about or bother to track down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,225 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I've grown accustomed to every sessions leaking or instant 2 c.d. deluxe editions except for scores I care about Why does Avengers get a 2 hour initial score release and wee never get anything like that for Star Wars Will and Bayesian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,822 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Well, Avengers is tailored to appeal to as many people as possible (although that makes it a bland product). 8 minutes ago, King Mark said: Why does Avengers get a 2 hour initial score release and wee never get anything like that for Star Wars At least SW got a 2 CD initial release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3,809 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 16 hours ago, crumbs said: Given the trend of Giacchino sessions leaking online, somehow I don't think you'll need to wait long to hear it all. Though it would be the first score in the series to have a session leak (which is surprising, considering all the ownership changes the scores have had). Full session leak. A cue from ROTS leaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3,898 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Giacchino and Powell scores almost always leak. It's just a matter of time before we get those... hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ocelot 478 Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 3:02 AM, artguy360 said: Ugh, Rogue One soundtrack talk is the worst. Only kids who listen to soundtracks on YouTube and think MG is a classical composer would say Rogue One's score is the best in the series. Rogue One is a dreadful score musically in my opinion. However I can understand some people preferring it as we all have different tastes in music. But I just cannot listen to that score. I tried so many times. It just annoys me that he's so weak harmonically and doesn't seem to know how to modulate once he has an idea in his head..... But hey listen, the man gets the gigs and makes the money so more power to him. Now Solo I liked. Very much. Very different to what I usually go for, but I think Powell did a great job in using material that was afforded him not only with the Han themes but also the whole SW catalogue and also making it his own with little motifs and signature little themes. The Rachmaninoffesque closet cue is beautiful for one. The mine stuff is excellent. crumbs, Holko, MikeH and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 12,973 Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, ocelot said: Rogue One is a dreadful score musically in my opinion. However I can understand some people preferring it as we all have different tastes in music. But I just cannot listen to that score. I tried so many times. It just annoys me that he's so weak harmonically and doesn't seem to know how to modulate once he has an idea in his head..... But hey listen, the man gets the gigs and makes the money so more power to him. Now Solo I liked. Very much. Very different to what I usually go for, but I think Powell did a great job in using material that was afforded him not only with the Han themes but also the whole SW catalogue and also making it his own with little motifs and signature little themes. The Rachmaninoffesque closet cue is beautiful for one. The mine stuff is excellent. Everything in this post is on point. Couldn't have written it better myself. Rogue One is nails on a chalkboard for me. The notion of Giacchino being the heir apparent to the Star Wars musical legacy is over. His sensibilities are incompatible with Williams' writings, and his imitations of JW's style have proven incongruous. MG is a perfectly talented composer in his own right (JWFK being a great example, where instead of aping Williams he just does his own thing, and it works brilliantly!) and that's what he should pursue; find his own identity and build his own legacy. Stop trying to be Williams because, frankly, he isn't. The Illustrious Jerry, Remco, ocelot and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 419 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Then ariseth the question: who IS the heir to the Star Wars musical legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,228 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Nobody. Leave the Saga and aping alone and try lots of different things. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 419 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Just now, Holko said: Nobody. Leave the Saga and aping alone and try lots of different things. Don't disagree Holko but realistically that's not going to happen; there's a 'Star Wars' formula which is just a little lucrative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,228 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 You mean like how they are actually stopping the Episodes for the near future and going in different directions with 2 planned trilogies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,716 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, GlastoEls said: Then ariseth the question: who IS the heir to the Star Wars musical legacy? Thrawn Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 419 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tom said: Thrawn Williams Johhn Williams? Williams C'Baoth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,228 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 No, Joohn. It's the vowel that grows with each clone generation. GlastoEls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,973 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, Holko said: Nobody. Leave the Saga and aping alone and try lots of different things. I think Powell's score for Solo demonstrates this isn't necessarily the case. Finding composers that can successfully channel the essence of Williams' intentions, while making their own mark, seems like the way forward. It's just patently clear that Giacchino was incapable of achieving this in the timeframe he was given (or at all) while Powell absolutely nailed the brief. It's debatable whether this had anything to do with Williams' personal involvement in Solo. After all, Giacchino had an entire glossary of themes at his disposal for Rogue One, while Powell was handed two specific new Williams themes and filled in the blanks. I think the ultimate problem with Rogue One is that Gia's attempts at channeling Williams fall flat (or sound awkward/wrong), yet his original material feels stronger but is overshadowed by the Williams reinterpretations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,822 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, GlastoEls said: Then ariseth the question: who IS the heir to the Star Wars musical legacy? Joseph Williams. He's even worked on the OT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 478 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 No one needs to be the Heir Apparent. Not in the sense of doing what Williams has done. It is done anyway, we have it, or will have the 9 films of his. You aren't going to have this ultra classical big orchestral varied scores with tons of themes and incredible chase music once he is gone. Let the composers who come in just do them, then they will succeed in at least that, if you try and get most composers out there to try and match a fraction of what Williams puts in orchestrally in each score, it's just not going to happen, unless they bring in someone who we do not already know about who comes from the Classical world. Williams style right now in Hollywood is seen as too "old school" and not what is in fashion. Everything is cyclical and the rise of big orchestral/classical music in film will come back at some point. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,973 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 It's like pining for the next Beethoven symphony. It just is what it is -- one of a kind. Let the next musical legacy be its own creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 566 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 2:37 PM, Faleel J.M. said: Full session leak. A cue from ROTS leaked. Which cue leaked from ROTS and when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,476 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Slide into his PMs Will and MikeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 32,117 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 6m4 Heroes Collide (which is just Anakin v Obi-Wan from the OST, without microedits) I dunno, a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,225 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 no news of the recording sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,718 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,822 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 We have a Tolkien forum for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,973 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 *cue predictably unfunny attempt-at-a-joke post that Giacchino has replaced Williams on the film* Bayesian and Not Mr. Big 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,822 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,476 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 We keep assuming that the cancelled appearances are because of Star Wars but what if they’re health-related??? What if Star Wars has to be completed by someone else??? *cue panic* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 419 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 On 7/28/2019 at 12:29 PM, Disco Stu said: We keep assuming that the cancelled appearances are because of Star Wars but what if they’re health-related??? What if Star Wars has to be completed by someone else??? *cue panic* Hopefully his recent dinners with Ann-Sophie Mutter etc can suggest all is well! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,256 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 He really went to town on her after the Tanglewod concert, and needs to...regain his strength! ocelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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