Popular Post CGCJ 497 Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 So... there's a "complete" score leak: 1m1 Dartmoor (04:12) 1m2b Horses To Market (02:05) 1m3 The Auction (02:24) 1m4 Bringing Joey Home (02:32) 1m5 Bonding With Joey (01:51) 1m6 Dad and The Goose (00:55) 1m7 Learning The Call (04:13) 1m8 Whistling Montage (00:52) 2m10-20 Albert Defends Joey and Harnessing Joey (03:27) 2m22 Landlord's Speech (01:45) 2m23-25 Plowing (08:32) 2m27 Dad's Medals (03:02) 2m28 Horse Vs Car (00:59) 3m30 Ruined Crop and War (02:05) 3m33 Leaving For France (01:44) 3m34 Saddling Up (01:02) 3m35 The Charge (02:12) 3m36 Surrounded and Captured (01:42) 3m38 Saved By The Harness (01:12) 4m40 Letter From The Front (01:52) 4m42 The Desertion (02:13) 4m44 The Boys Are Executed (01:12) 4m46 Joey's New Friends (03:33) 5m50 Birthday Present (01:43) 5m52 Joey and Topthorn Are Captured (02:01) 5m54 Pulling The Cannon (05:25) 5m58 The Death Of Topthorn (02:51) 6m62 Approaching Trapped Joey (02:11) 6m64-66 To The Dressing Station (03:46) 6m68 The Reunion (04:38) 7m70 The Dash Across No Man's Land (02:11) 7m70 The Dash Across No Man's Land (Alternate) (02:43) 7m72 Remembering Emily and Finale (02:21) 7m73 Returning To Dartmoor (03:01) 7m74 End Credits (08:43) 7m74 End Credits (Alternate) (08:06) aescalle, BrotherSound, crumbs and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Oh wow, an alternate end credits suite and Dash Across No Man's Land, very cool to know. The cue slates are a bit out of whack though, order wise. Why is the No Man's Land cue after The Reunion? And what exactly leaked from this score, sheet music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 497 Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, crumbs said: And what exactly leaked from this score, sheet music? The actual music recordings. Never seen the film or heard the score so I have no idea why any of the cue numbers might be out of order. I just saw it available and that there was no cue list on here so thought I'd download and share the info; I've now added the duration's to the previous post. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Well, looks like I need to do some digging... 44 minutes ago, CGCJ said: Never seen the film or heard the score so I have no idea why any of the cue numbers might be out of order. Presumably when JW scored the film, certain scenes were in later reels when the film ran longer. Like the Dash Across No Man's Land, for example. Then as the film was cut down, these scenes moved to earlier reels (ie, reel 6 instead of 7) but the cue slate remained because JW had already written or recorded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,731 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I'm kind of surprised the leak isn't bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,125 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 7 hours ago, bollemanneke said: I'm kind of surprised the leak isn't bigger. Well, leaks don't always contain everything recorded, some just include what made it into the film. and maybe a couple alts (which I think are just taken from the OST and tacked on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aescalle 122 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I like the Complete score better than the Ost! Great leak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,731 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Fal J. M. Skywalker said: Well, leaks don't always contain everything recorded, some just include what made it into the film. and maybe a couple alts (which I think are just taken from the OST and tacked on) Yes, but I somehow thought the film score was longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,612 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 After a first listen, it seems like this isn't 100% complete: Plowing doesn't have a clean opening unlike the OST Pulling the Cannon has the same section as the FYC which is missing some bits from the OST (1:59 to 2:04 OST time). If it's a microedit, it's well done. If not, it might just be a different take which would mean the OST take isn't on this. The alternate for The Dash Across No Man's Land is just the OST track because we hear the ending of Approaching Trapped Joey at the beginning. So we are missing that alternate in clean form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,125 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Chewy said: After a first listen, it seems like this isn't 100% complete: Plowing doesn't have a clean opening unlike the OST Pulling the Cannon has the same section as the FYC which is missing some bits from the OST (1:59 to 2:04 OST time). If it's a microedit, it's well done. If not, it might just be a different take which would mean the OST take isn't on this. The alternate for The Dash Across No Man's Land is just the OST track because we hear the ending of Approaching Trapped Joey at the beginning. So we are missing that alternate in clean form. Alternate Dash would probably be an insert if presented as recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,535 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 This might be useful to everyone comparing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/118SUXiL-bZEElM1oDDiocggQ-6vu4Fm3zoU6nBUzKDc I am open to any corrections or omissions! BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,612 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 @Jay 1m7 Learning The Call lasts 4:13 on the leak, not 1:38, and it is complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,535 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Looks like someone edited the OST track into the film cue to create a 4:13 combo edit, weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,612 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Does this track only last 1:38 for the version of the leak you got? EDIT: Seems like the leak @CGCJ posted isn't the raw leak. The following tracks have been altered/added using the OST to make it "more complete": 1) 1m1 Dartmoor 7) 1m7 Learning The Call 30) 6m68 The Reunion 35) 7m70 The Dash Across No Man's Land (Alternate) 36) 7m74 End Credits (Alternate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 497 Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chewy said: Seems like the leak @CGCJ posted isn't the raw leak. The following tracks have been altered/added using the OST to make it "more complete": Sorry, I just posted about what I had come across, I didn't edit any of it myself. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,977 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 stupid question...but where can i listen to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I wonder what the source of this leak is. It's not a comprehensive session leak because it only has the final film cues, but it lacks all the typical edits that the film score has. Kinda weird... We won't be getting an expansion anytime soon thanks to union fees, so this will probably be the best we get for over a decade. bollemanneke and aescalle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aescalle 122 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 18 hours ago, Chewy said: Does this track only last 1:38 for the version of the leak you got? EDIT: Seems like the leak @CGCJ posted isn't the raw leak. The following tracks have been altered/added using the OST to make it "more complete": 1) 1m1 Dartmoor 7) 1m7 Learning The Call 30) 6m68 The Reunion 35) 7m70 The Dash Across No Man's Land (Alternate) 36) 7m74 End Credits (Alternate) Last week an other "Expanded version" also leaks. This first one was a combinaison from the OST and the FYC albums. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 339 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 21 hours ago, crumbs said: I wonder what the source of this leak is. It's not a comprehensive session leak because it only has the final film cues, but it lacks all the typical edits that the film score has. Kinda weird... I have seen many session leaks that lack alternates or film edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, MedigoScan said: I have seen many session leaks that lack alternates or film edits. That would indicate these are leaking post-mastering stage, once the score reaches the sound mixers. They would be handed the final mastered scoring files but not the complete sessions (hence no alternates rejected by composer/director, just the final cues approved for use in the film, but before any edits have been made). bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 23 hours ago, Bellosh said: stupid question...but where can i listen to this? I can't find it anywhere and not in the usual places. I guess it's in private circles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 239 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Surprised it hadn't leaked earlier honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,804 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Arpy said: I can't find it anywhere and not in the usual places. I guess it's in private circles... It slowly dribbled out of those private circles. Even dl-st has it up now, in flac, no less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 239 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Why does it always have to be a circle? Can't it be a triangle or maybe just a Mobius strip? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 JWFan holds many secrets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 239 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Yes, John is currently being held captive until he leaks War Horse to the masses. Let him go! #FreeWilliams bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,249 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Like my father always said, "If you don't ask, you don't get!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,510 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 If it turns out there's a nice arrangement of this score's two sweetest themes, I'd appreciate it if someone could let me know. The album was quite unsatisfactory in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,155 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 40,535 Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Quintus said: If it turns out there's a nice arrangement of this score's two sweetest themes, I'd appreciate it if someone could let me know. The album was quite unsatisfactory in that regard. The final track on the OST album, "Homecoming", is already a wonderful suite of the themes for the score. Additionally, "Learning The Call" from the OST album is essentially a concert arrangement, albeit containing some pieces of film cues like Theme From Jurassic Park or Window To The Past Will, crumbs and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,731 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 53 minutes ago, Lockdown said: Yes, John is currently being held captive until he leaks War Horse to the masses. Let him go! #FreeWilliams Wow wow wow, we said we'd let him go if Hook came out on BF and not a second sooner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,571 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Arpy said: I can't find it anywhere and not in the usual places. Curiously, it's not on that forum that worships that japanese RPG. That place was better, cool recording sessions leaking there almost every week... Now that place posts mostly scores no one cares about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,977 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Quintus said: If it turns out there's a nice arrangement of this score's two sweetest themes, I'd appreciate it if someone could let me know. The album was quite unsatisfactory in that regard. You don't think 'Remembering Emilie, and Finale' has that for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,510 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Judging by what you and Jay have to say on the matter, I'll have to have another attempt at the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,977 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 This score Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Harnessing Joey is a delightful unreleased cue. What a gift! Considering the 2005 union changes will prohibit post-WOTW expansions anytime soon, we've gotten pretty lucky. Munich (OST basically complete), KOTCS (session leak), War Horse (session leak), Lincoln (OST basically complete), The Post (OST basically complete, FYC apparently has more score), The Last Jedi (complete isolated score). Which really just leaves Memoirs, Tintin, The Book Thief and The BFG in limbo. Union fees won't be an issue for TFA and TROS considering Disney's ownership, so that just depends on when they decide to commission SW expansions (hopefully already in the works). bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,535 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 IIRC The Book Thief is pretty close to complete if you combine the OST and FYC. Same with Lincoln. For that score, the OST was woefully incomplete when it came to film cues since it was mostly concert arrangements and album extensions, but the FYC was amazing cause it brought us all the important missing film cues. crumbs and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Same with Lincoln. For that score, the OST was woefully incomplete when it came to film cues since it was mostly concert arrangements and album extensions, but the FYC was amazing cause it brought us all the important missing film cues. Ahh yes, Trumpet Hymn! Probably the best unreleased cue and the quality is superb on the FYC. I couldn't find a cue list but recall there being very little score in the film proper (and that Williams treated the OST more like a concert exploration of the themes rather than an assembly of the film score). Didn't even know there was a Book Thief FYC. After checking the cue list (61 cues!) I figured there must be a stack of unreleased material even in spite of an FYC filling the gaps. Do you know if there's a spreadsheet by any chance? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,535 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hC7nuJI9X-0f9I8Ys74csMFKwzc-o8ixPkTPdY6grB0/ crumbs and aescalle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 2,119 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jay said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hC7nuJI9X-0f9I8Ys74csMFKwzc-o8ixPkTPdY6grB0/ This spreadsheet seems to be inaccessible, at least from my google account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,535 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Try now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 2,119 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Working now. So those of us who only have access to the leaked version of the sessions are still missing the unedited "Learning the Call." Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: So those of us who only have access to the leaked version of the sessions are still missing the unedited "Learning the Call." Anything else? If I'm understanding the cue list correctly, the OST has a few alternate passages that were replaced in the film version (like The Auction). Learning the Call appears to contain album-specific development that wasn't intended for film (or belongs to alternates we only partially have). The end credits suites and Dash Across No Man's Land also appear to have alternate passages between OST and film. The actual end credits as it appears in the film appears to be an edited construct though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Jay said: The final track on the OST album, "Homecoming", is already a wonderful suite of the themes for the score. Additionally, "Learning The Call" from the OST album is essentially a concert arrangement, albeit containing some pieces of film cues like Theme From Jurassic Park or Window To The Past OMG for a second I read that as the track "Learning the Call" had music from Jurassic Park and Harry Potter in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,953 Posted November 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2019 I just want to say I love this score and its themes. JW has a way of handling the themes such that they can be incredibly tender one moment and big and bold the next. Taikomochi, crumbs and Arpy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 14 hours ago, Quintus said: If it turns out there's a nice arrangement of this score's two sweetest themes, I'd appreciate it if someone could let me know. The album was quite unsatisfactory in that regard. Try the (new) end credits, it places the big inspirational near the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,756 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Is the alternate end credits cue the same as the film/FYC version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,140 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 No, that one is different (especially the start, which sounds artificially slowed down). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,731 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Pff, I wish people would stop editing and then uploading leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ins 42 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'd forgotten what a real treat this score is, and now all my personal highlights in small contained cues. Very nice! Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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