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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Final Predictions (NO SPOILERS)

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Final Predictions  

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  1. 1. When Don Williams said the 'Phantom Theme' would return in TROS, did he mean the Emperor's Theme or Duel of the Fates?

    • Emperor's Theme
      29
    • Duel of the Fates
      27

  2. 2. Will any of these prequel themes return in TROS?

    • Anakin's Theme (TPM, AOTC, ROTS)
      16
    • Anakin's Betrayal (ROTS)
      0
    • Across the Stars (AOTC, ROTS)
      11
    • Battle of the Heroes (ROTS)
      17
    • Qui-Gon's Theme (TPM)
      3
    • Trade Federation March (TPM, AOTC)
      2
    • Funeral Theme (TPM, ROTS)
      15
    • Separatist Mystery Motif (AOTC)
      0
    • None of the above
      13

  3. 3. Will the film feature any music tracked from the recordings of a previous score (excepting Main Title)?

  4. 4. Stylistically, which musical approach will JW take for the Death Star II lightsaber battle between Rey and Ren?

    • A monothematic large scale chorale piece with bursts of the Force Theme, like the Mustafar battle in ROTS
      16
    • Thematic scoring with Rey and Ren's themes used throughout, like Ways of the Force
      32
    • Something else
      8

  5. 5. Will an expanded 2CD version be released alongside the standard 1CD version?

  6. 6. Will we hear ANY of the score before the film is released?

  7. 7. Will there be a featurette on the score released in advance, like the TFA 60 Minutes piece?

  8. 8. Will either Rey or Kylo Ren receive new themes in the film?

  9. 9. How many new THEMES will the score contain?

  10. 10. How does the end credits suite finish?

    • Luke's Theme
      13
    • The Force Theme
      8
    • Rey's Theme
      5
    • Rebel Fanfare
      4
    • A reprise of the ANH closing fanfare
      7
    • A reprise of the ESB closing fanfare
      5
    • A reprise of the ROTJ/ROTS extended closing fanfare
      7
    • Brand new, non-thematic fanfare
      2
    • Something else
      5

  11. 11. Will there be a track called 'The Rise of Skywalker'

  12. 12. How many unique concert suites will the OST contain?

  13. 13. Has John finished recording the score, as at November 11?

    • Yes, it's all done
      20
    • No, they're still recording
      36

  14. 14. Does the Emperor and his forces receive a new theme in addition to his original one?

  15. 15. Just how all-encompassing is the rumoured end credits suite?

    • A victory lap of basically all the major themes across all 3 trilogies
      16
    • A suite of the sequel trilogy + the themes of any character in TROS only
      23
    • Just a suite of the key new ideas from TROS only
      13
    • Something else
      4

  16. 16. Will the Cloud City music re-appear at any point in the score for Lando?

  17. 17. What is the first theme in the score after Main Title?

    • Rey's Theme
      13
    • Force Theme
      3
    • Luke's Theme
      0
    • Luke & Leia
      4
    • Rebel Fanfare
      6
    • Something else
      20
    • Kylo Ren's A Theme
      10

  18. 18. Does the Kylo Ren march from the end of TLJ get developed into a fully fledged musical idea?

  19. 19. Was the 'potential' TROS music heard in that Anthony Daniels promo actually a hint of something from the score, or just generic trailer music?

    • Yes, it was based on something from John's score for TROS!
      15
    • No, just generic trailer music by another composer
      41

  20. 20. Will the tracklist be known before the score is available?

    • Yes, it will be revealed when pre-orders go live, hence the delay
      9
    • Yes, it will leak a few days out from the score's release
      38
    • No, it won't be known until the score goes live at midnight on release day
      9

  21. 21. How prevalent will choral elements be across the score?

    • Just 2 or 3 cues for dramatic effect, like TLJ
      31
    • Substantial, prolonged appearances for the climactic battle, plus several cues throughout to support the Emperor's Theme
      23
    • No choir at all, all orchestral
      2

  22. 22. Will Rey's Theme be threaded through the Force Theme, like the end of the TFA credits, in the body of the score proper?

  23. 23. Did Don's prediction about the length of the score come true, or did the score end up another rewrite/insert mess like TFA?

    • Yes, he was correct, about 135-140 minutes
      10
    • The score matches the runtime, about 155 minutes
      12
    • No, JW had to re-score multiple scenes after reshoots. The score ended up 175-185 minutes long
      26
    • He's still doing revisions! 200+ minutes!
      8

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39 minutes ago, Bayesian said:

It's saddening, though. The era of film music I grew up with (and only began to understand and appreciate a decade ago) seems quite like it's at its end. Eventually, people may forget what real film music was, but fortunately JW long ago entered the composer pantheon and his legacy is secure. And in under two weeks, we'll get to enjoy, perhaps for the last time ever, the shared experience of a new JW blockbuster score revealed to the world. We are lucky to be here to appreciate such a thing, to be here at the end.

 

I don't agree with everything in your post (I think JW has impressively adapted his classical sensibilities to suit modern filmmaking trends, and his work with younger directors like Abrams and Johnson is testament to that) but I agree wholeheartedly with your point above.

 

This film marks the end of an era, not just for Williams but film music itself. He's carried the torch for so long but TROS feels like his swan song. It might not be at TFA heights but never again will a film score be as anticipated on this forum or the wider film score community.

 

(I highly doubt Indy 5 will make its 2021 release date, or that Williams will score it. And yes, @Disco Stu can quote this post in 18 months when we see the tracklist for John Williams' score to Indiana Jones and the Quest for Paradise).

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I, too lament the same thing Conrad Pope does in saying Williams is the last of his kind, however I don't think it's the *cue sad violin playing, followed by a crescendo of doom* 'The End of Film Music As We Know It.' After all, film music has gone through periods where select few composers come to define what film music sounds like that it's expected that Williams has his time come and go. There's nothing to say future generations aren't in for some incredible music and we should be more open to that possibility.

 

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13 minutes ago, Arpy said:

There's nothing to say future generations aren't in for some incredible music and we should be more open to that possibility.

 

Yeah, but Hollywood film music is increasingly becoming a dead artform.

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No it hasn't. I'm not saying Williams doesn't deserve the accolades and the respect for shaping and continuing to shape film music for decades, but that Williams isn't some torch bearer. I'm certain more will come along that in fifty years the face of film music will be completely different and they'll be lamenting the fact that the composers of their time will close another chapter in film music history...

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12 hours ago, King Mark said:

I also watched The Mandalorian and it totally devoid of ANY Williams references.  Even the generic "Disney Star Wars" logo before  does not hint at Williams music.

 

I don't like the music for that logo but I'm pretty sure it hints at the Force theme.

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39 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

Holy fuck we get new a Star Wars end credits suite in 11 days. Holy shit it's just hitting me now.

You are missing the point on this.  Do you think there will be a track called "The Rise of Skywalker" or not?  

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12 minutes ago, Arpy said:

It's either accompanying the main title or some cue towards the end of the film, like RotS.

 

Agreed. Track 1 seems most likely (Main Title and the Rise of Skywalker). He did that with ROTS and the opening battle wasn't exactly tied to the film's title.

 

I would've guessed Finale for the final track but considering he used that on ESB/TLJ, perhaps a simple title like Skywalker might be a nice gesture for the big credits suite? Especially if it surmises the whole saga.

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