Knight of Ren 785 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Jay said: Wait a minute... did you think that the composer working under Goransson for the past 8 years was the Batman: TAS composer, who'd be almost 80 now if she was still alive, or did you know it was an up-and-coming young person, but just typed the wrong name? I just mixed them up. Since Shirley is in Joseph Shirley's name, I don't know why my mind immediately jumped into Shirley Walker and I hadn't realized my mistake until you pointed it out. But of course I know who she is, and that she's sadly dead. Her work for Batman is some of my favorite superhero music ever, and I think her theme is on par with Elfman's! I also know her from her work with John Carpenter on the sequel to Escape from New York! Jurassic Shark and Dr. Know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Her score to Turbulence is fun too! 1977 and Stark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 300 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 58 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: I just mixed them up. Since Shirley is in Joseph Shirley's name, I don't know why my mind immediately jumped into Shirley Walker and I hadn't realized my mistake until you pointed it out. I have the same problem, my mind can't get these two names apart 4 hours ago, Knight of Ren said: Also, the music for the Purrgils was quite lovely and I hope that's one of the cues that appears in the album. Agreed. Though in the back of my mind I remembered they already had a theme in Rebels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Hi All, Tune in to a new Film Music Live on Monday, March 6 at 1PM (4PM EST) as CREED III composer JOSEPH SHIRLEY (The Mandalorian, The Book of Boba Fett, Jackass Forever) gets into the videocast ring to pull no punches on talking about what it takes to don the musical mantle of Hollywood’s famed legacy characters. Be at the ropes to ask your questions for a new generation’s rising score powerhouse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mws6FRhvA4c Thanks as always for tuning in to the show where you get to ask your questions to today's top composers! Daniel Schweiger Host, Film Music Live https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=150631&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 There was some nice stuff in the score. Felt more traditional in many places than the previous seasons which really surprised me. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 310 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 10 hours ago, crocodile said: There was some nice stuff in the score. Felt more traditional in many places than the previous seasons which really surprised me. Karol I was thinking the exact same thing. Shirley is definitely off to a good start this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 473 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 To me, the asteroid chase music sounded VERY "traditional", in that the brass had that blaring quality to it, which I usually associate with 70s-80s recordings. Stark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Yeah, the asteroid scene in particular sounded like a stylistic bridge between Goransson and Williams. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Intentional or not, the bwahms kinda reminded me of the seismic charge sound enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, A Farewell to Kings said: Brahms Fixed. Stark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I really liked the score to the first episode of season 3! I can't say I picked up on everything going on on first watch of course, but two things I took notice of was: Some really cool new variations of IG-11's theme, and some awesome action music during the asteroid chase. BTW, I thought during the end credits I noticed an update to the normal end credits music, like an extra instrument added to the mix. Anyone else notice this, or am I mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 To me, it sounded more like the version they used for this music video: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I don't think so. I've never heard this before I don't think, or if I did I don't remember it - but that section where he plays the piano in the video sounds completely different from anything I've heard in the show or on any album. Then there's vocals and some synth stuff later that I don't recognize. I'd have to fire up Disney+ to listen to the end credits in the episode again, but I thought it was the same "base" recording as always, just with like an extra synth bit in the mix I hadn't ever heard - or just hadn't noticed - before. I dunno. Where's our experts on this - @The Illustrious Jerry ? @Knight of Ren ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I don't know which part of the track are you exactly referring to. I went back and listened to the end credits and to me it sounded the same as it did in previous seasons. Could be wrong, but I didn't noticed anything different, I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 OK it's probably just some synth I never noticed before then, thanks for checking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 The end title sounded 100% verbatim to the standard one they've used. They've only deviated from it a couple of times and in those cases it was the orchestra-only version for season 1 episode 7 (same as the one Goransson conducted at the season 2 premiere livestream with the socially-distanced musicians) and the strings-only version in the season 2 finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 7 hours ago, Jay said: BTW, I thought during the end credits I noticed an update to the normal end credits music, like an extra instrument added to the mix. Anyone else notice this, or am I mistaken? I thought the same thing! But winds instead of synth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 9:08 AM, Laserschwert said: To me, the asteroid chase music sounded VERY "traditional", in that the brass had that blaring quality to it, which I usually associate with 70s-80s recordings. On 3/3/2023 at 12:53 PM, crocodile said: Yeah, the asteroid scene in particular sounded like a stylistic bridge between Goransson and Williams. Karol It was just this track reused from S1… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Oh you mean the track that was silenced in the episode itself eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Actually, it starts with Warm or Cold, but then moves on into new material, with some cool Recorder Riff action variations right before Mando encounters the big pirate ship. It's kind of funny that it was released with chapter 5's album, bu it went unused and has been tracked twice after that, once in each season. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: bu it went unreleased You mean unused? Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: It's kind of funny that it was released with chapter 5's album, bu it went unreleased You mean unused? Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Yep, meant unused. Corrected it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,288 Posted March 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2023 Jospeh Shirley interview that includes Mando talk: Manakin Skywalker, enderdrag64, crlbrg and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 They just skip right over @enderdrag64's question enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 What was the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I asked if it would be possible for Mando season 3 or future shows to get 8 volumes like season 1 did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Great question! Shame he didn't answer it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jay said: Shame he didn't answer it Didn't even have a chance to, the interviewer didn't even bother to show it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I already shared my thoughts on the episode as a whole in the other thread, but I will use this post to talk a bit more about the music. It relied a bit too much on tracking for my taste, especially in the first half, and I was that for example for Bo Katan's action sequence Shirley had done a new variation on her theme, instead of just tracking the Season 2 track, Ship o hoj, Mandalorians! Apart from that, there were some cool moments, especially in the escape sequence with Grogu, which had some great action variations on the Child's theme, and also what it seems to be a new theme for the city of Mandalore, which has some nice variations intermingling with softer arrangements of Bo Katan's own theme. In case anyone is interested in reading a bit more about the music in this episode, I leave here my analysis of the score from my blog, so feel free to check it out and leave your thoughts on it. Cheers! Chapter 18 - The Mines of Mandalore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Nice blog, but I'd change the font color of the title of the blog post so it doesn't blend with the background image. On 05/03/2023 at 5:52 PM, crocodile said: To me, it sounded more like the version they used for this music video: Karol That's some bad piano playing. Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 29 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Nice blog, but I'd change the font color of the title of the blog post so it doesn't blend with the background image. Thanks! Yeah, the title has always been a bit of a problem, and the platform doesn't let me change the color of the title itself, so I tried to add a soft background to highlight it a bit more, but I will try to change it a bit more during this week. But thanks for the heads up on that! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: Thanks! Yeah, the title has always been a bit of a problem, and the platform doesn't let me change the color of the title itself, so I tried to add a soft background to highlight it a bit more, but I will try to change it a bit more during this week. But thanks for the heads up on that! You're welcome. I'd also change the blog title to A Note too Far or Too Many Notes, or perhaps Note with my Vinyl, you don't! Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I didn't notice any specific cues in episode 2 I want to hear later, but that is probably mostly due to just being so absorbed in watching the episode itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 For anybody who has found the time to watch that video interview, can you share anything interesting he said about scoring Mando season 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConorPower 148 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Disney-Land-esque diegetic March of the Resistance in S3E3 at that funfair place! How strange? Is this some New Republic / Resistance anthem now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_grig 464 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Nice musical candy in this episode. There is also a sweet reference to ROTS: those low male vocals we hear when the scientist makes his decision are referenced to the space Opera scene from ROTS! You could even interpret a meta meaning to that, but I won't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael Grigorowitsch said: Nice musical candy in this episode. There is also a sweet reference to ROTS: those low male vocals we hear when the scientist makes his decision are referenced to the space Opera scene from ROTS! You could even interpret a meta meaning to that, but I won't! Not to mention a recollection of this motif from Snoke's boudoir in TLJ, around when Pershing decides to resume his work. So we have now, among other things, a diegetic calliope version of the March of the Resistance, another return to Snoke's low male chorus, and yet no nod to "Themes by JW" in the end credits! The odd background music during the not-mind-flayer rehab scene feels like a possible reference too; anyone hear it clearly enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_grig 464 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, Falstaft said: Not to mention a recollection of this motif from Snoke's boudoir in TLJ, around when Pershing decides to resume his work. So we have now, among other things, a diegetic calliope version of the March of the Resistance, another return to Snoke's low male chorus, and yet no nod to "Themes by JW" in the end credits! I might be wrong, but is there the actual same melody as in TLJ are those two melodic lines just part of the same harmonic identity? (timestamp: 30:16?) I guess the intention was rather focused on referencing this, the melody is just part of the same harmonic identity. 38 minutes ago, Falstaft said: The odd background music during the not-mind-flayer rehab scene feels like a possible reference too; anyone hear it clearly enough? I heard subtle hints of Jabba's Baroque Recital, however, I am also not sure whether this is actually an intended reference here. Maybe that's just the way composers think when they are being asked to compose bizarre sci-fi music. 38 minutes ago, Falstaft said: and yet no nod to "Themes by JW" in the end credits! there is also no credit on IMDB https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13665846/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm I wonder if he gets royalties for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Michael Grigorowitsch said: I might be wrong, but is there the actual same melody as in TLJ are those two melodic lines just part of the same harmonic identity? (timestamp: 30:16?) I think probably all these little motifs are of a kind, rhythmically and in terms of their pitch content. Transposing everything to C, the one from today's Mando is: G-F#-Ab-G-B, G-F#-Bb-Ab-D Snoke's chamber one is: G-Ab-Eb-D-B-Eb-D, G-Ab-Eb-D-B Palpatine's big pitch one is: Ab-G-Eb-B-Ab-Eb... 6 minutes ago, Michael Grigorowitsch said: I heard subtle hints of Jabba's Baroque Recital, however, I am also not sure whether this is actually an intended reference here. Maybe that's just the way composers think when they are being asked to compose bizarre sci-fi music. That's what I'm feeling too. A nice, weird touch, whatever the cue was modeled on. michael_grig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Shirley's music this episode was great and I particularly loved his new Coruscant theme, as well as the development of a motif from previous episode, that now it's starting to seem like it represent's Bo Katan's journey for redepmtion. The carnvial-arrangement of the March of the Resistance was quite unexpected but so much fun, and I love all the other subtle references to Williams music, especially with that low male choir representing the Dark Side of the Force like it did with Palpatine and Snoke. What @Michael Grigorowitsch and @Falstaft are referring as the motif from Snoke's Boudouir is actually a motif representing Werner Herzog's character in Season 1, and that has been used a couple of times to represent the darker side of the story. In case anyone is interested, I did a short analysis of the soundtrack of the episode, which you can check out on my blog. Feel free to check it out and share your thoughts. Enjoy! Chapter 19: The Convert Falstaft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_grig 464 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: Shirley's music this episode was great and I particularly loved his new Coruscant theme, as well as the development of a motif from previous episode, that now it's starting to seem like it represent's Bo Katan's journey for redepmtion. The carnvial-arrangement of the March of the Resistance was quite unexpected but so much fun, and I love all the other subtle references to Williams music, especially with that low male choir representing the Dark Side of the Force like it did with Palpatine and Snoke. What @Michael Grigorowitsch and @Falstaft are referring as the motif from Snoke's Boudouir is actually a motif representing Werner Herzog's character in Season 1, and that has been used a couple of times to represent the darker side of the story. In case anyone is interested, I did a short analysis of the soundtrack of the episode, which you can check out on my blog. Feel free to check it out and share your thoughts. Enjoy! Chapter 19: The Convert Great find! And this is why you don't speculate on something you don't have extended basic knowledge of, 😆. Also shows that there is more "classic" star wars musical identity than one thinks at first glance in this fantastic series! GREAT blog entry! Knight of Ren and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 That theme that plays a lot when Bo Katan is on screen kept reminding me of the low strings motif in this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1rpLTRiJyRA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: In case anyone is interested, I did a short analysis of the soundtrack of the episode, which you can check out on my blog. Feel free to check it out and share your thoughts. Enjoy! Chapter 19: The Convert Awesome, thank you @Knight of Ren! Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorenij 0 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Was anyone able to identify tracks from the soundtracks with music identification apps? In season 2 it worked even before the fourth episode of the soundtrack volume was released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 hours ago, vorenij said: Was anyone able to identify tracks from the soundtracks with music identification apps? In season 2 it worked even before the fourth episode of the soundtrack volume was released I've been trying since the first episode and nothing is being detected so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,288 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 12 hours ago, vorenij said: Was anyone able to identify tracks from the soundtracks with music identification apps? In season 2 it worked even before the fourth episode of the soundtrack volume was released 8 hours ago, CGCJ said: I've been trying since the first episode and nothing is being detected so far. If there is a is a "Volume 1" OST album dropping this Friday, it might just be showing up in their database around now, maybe not even until a few days from now though. There's no chance it would have been in there at any point before this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 This episode really allowed Shirley to shine with lots of many great variations on previosuly established themes, as well as some interesting developments on his new themes for the season. The Mandalore / Redemption theme is slowly cementing itself as a new identity for Bo Katan's emotional journey for this season, and we also get a brief nod to the Mythosaur theme that played at the end of episode 2, when she saw the creature under water. If you want to read a more in-depth analysis on the music of the episode, feel free to check out my blog post, and feel free to share your thoughts on it. Enjoy! Chapter 20: The Foundling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted March 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2023 Im liking the music in this season more that the previous ones. More orchestral-melodic, what would you expect from star wars. Gabriel Bezerra, crumbs, enderdrag64 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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