Popular Post mrbellamy 6,944 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 Holko, The Illustrious Jerry, Will and 17 others 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,463 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Nice symphonic texture, but it's almost completely lost in the mix under fx and shouted dialogue. Oh well. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 218 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Oh I'm seven seconds in and I just want to cry! The music is thrilling crumbs and BuzzLightyear 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Reger 3,613 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, TownerFan said: Nice symphonic texture, but it's almost completely lost in the mix under fx and shouted dialogue. To be fair this video has fewer kbps than Williams has years. In a theater details would be more audible. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tmarps 218 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 The music is more of the same - scurrying, "The Falcon"-esque lines in flutes and good dialogue exchanges within orchestra, which for me is a good thing Will, bollemanneke and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 989 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Dialogue is nice, musique is like The falcon, but I would have liked more thematic material in there. Let’s wait bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,504 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 Squee! It's really happening! crumbs, Cerebral Cortex and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Cerebral Cortex and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Gimme more! Gimme gimme! It definitely sounds like sequel trilogy action music, so nothing unexpected. I just wanna hear more! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,603 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Action music very much in the style of The Last Jedi, which, to be fair, is not exactly unexpected. I wonder how this cue will be called on the OST... Flying Troopers and the Chase Through the Desert? Or, if Williams is feeling humorous, maybe just "Do They Fly Now?". bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,757 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, TownerFan said: Nice symphonic texture, but it's almost completely lost in the mix under fx and shouted dialogue. Oh well. IDK it sounds well-mixed to me Docteur Qui, mrbellamy, Cerebral Cortex and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,944 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 Same, pretty decent for an action scene. It's not a silent movie. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 15,146 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 I think the mixing is great! Sure, not a reflection of a full 5.1 surround mix but this sounds far better than the action material in TFA was treated! If the entire score is treated this well I'll be pretty happy, TBH. And the music itself sounds great! Love the transition to those thrilling strings once the troopers take flight. Williams just sounds like he's having a heap of fun here, one of the action cues I was most looking forward to. You can tell there's a few edits along the way so it'll be great to hear the entire cue as intended. Recording seems like a mix of TFA and TLJ, writing style likewise a bit of a blend but also modern and different from both previous scores. Importantly, it has fantastic energy which is the most important thing. I want more!! Mattris, Disco Stu, Smaug The Iron and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,463 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: IDK it sounds well-mixed to me I'm sure in theaters it'll sound better of course. Perhaps it's me reacting to the fact that this style of busy, dense orchestral scoring doesn't land well anymore in the current aesthetic of busy visual language, rapid-fire editing and an immense array of loud sound fx. The music sounds refined and richly orchestrated, but it has to compete much harder than in the past to be heard properly and not being lost in the mix. Imho, of course. bollemanneke and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,944 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, crumbs said: I think the mixing is great! Sure, not a reflection of a full 5.1 surround mix but this sounds far better than the action material in TFA was treated! If the entire score is treated this well I'll be pretty happy, TBH. And the music itself sounds great! Love the transition to those thrilling strings once the troopers take flight. Williams just sounds like he's having a heap of fun here, one of the action cues I was most looking forward to. You can tell there's a few edits along the way so it'll be great to hear the entire cue as intended. Recording seems like a mix of TFA and TLJ, writing style likewise a bit of a blend but also modern and different from both previous scores. Importantly, it has fantastic energy which is the most important thing. I want more!! Truthfully these 30 seconds are almost literally nothing we haven't heard before but predictably sounds world class and he isn't missing a beat stylistically. It's just exciting to hear him in there more than anything. I assume he takes some melodic/thematic opportunities here and there in the sequence too, either a new action motif or Poe or Rey's themes in frantic mode or something. Kinda hope he avoids Rebel Fanfare outside of obvious Falcon/X-Wing sequences. Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DrTenma 117 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I never liked these kind of clips... It doesn't sound bad but neither as good as I would like. With TFA clip I had the very same feeling: I need more music. DarthDementous and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Cool, I'm excited to check this out later. Let's talk about only the music in this thread, and other aspects of the clip and movie itself over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,796 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, DrTenma said: I never liked these kind of clips... It doesn't sound bad but neither as good as I would like. With TFA clip I had the very same feeling: I need more music. I have the same exact reaction. Sounds solid and sounds like Williams but there's not enough of it to make a judgement. Karol DrTenma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,890 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 It’s been 3 hours and no one has produced a clip with the isolated music. Shame on you, JWFan, shame on you. DrTenma, crlbrg, Kasey Kockroach and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Mark 3,768 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: IDK it sounds well-mixed to me yeah I hear it pretty well on hadphones Music is good but no big theme statements so hard to judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,619 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Alex said: It’s been 3 hours and no one has produced a clip with the isolated music. Shame on you, JWFan, shame on you. Good idea! EDIT: here it is: Disco Stu, Falstaft, Tiburon and 7 others 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,358 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 Really surprised to see so many people saying it's Williams. Sounds close but I'm gonna have to go with "not Williams" on this one. Really good impersonation though! Probably library music. Brass are clearly samples. I work with samples on a daily basis, 32 hours a day, 9 days a week, so I know what I'm talking about when I say this isn't a real orchestra. If this ends up being Williams, I'll eat my hat. Might be leftover music from the Verizon commercial. I know Williams and this ain't him. /s Loert, Manakin Skywalker, Tiburon and 19 others 3 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Is that Poe's theme or at least a reduction of it in the clip? Overall this is like Follow Me and will be playing over and over in my head until I see the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,504 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: Really surprised to see so many people saying it's Williams. Sounds close but I'm gonna have to go with "not Williams" on this one. Really good impersonation though! Probably library music. Brass are clearly samples. I work with samples on a daily basis, 32 hours a day, 9 days a week, so I know what I'm talking about when I say this isn't a real orchestra. If this ends up being Williams, I'll eat my hat. Might be leftover music from the Verizon commercial. I know Williams and this ain't him. /s MikeH, Cerebral Cortex, The Illustrious Jerry and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Truthfully these 30 seconds are almost literally nothing we haven't heard before but predictably sounds world class and he isn't missing a beat stylistically. I agree. The little bit sounds good and I'm eager hear it in the context of a full cue (assuming it's released). The music works much better through headphones - it got a little lost when I listened through my speakers. Is there an edit at :20 when the first trooper is launched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,692 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Sounds like typical meandering autopilot action underscore. I realize this is JWFan, but if THIS makes you cry...wow. gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just mind-blowing and breathtaking. This is the JW I can't get enough of... Nobody does it better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,603 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Chewy said: Good idea! EDIT: here it is: Well, listening to it again, I hear actually some similarities with early 2000s Williams, specially on this furious strings, which reminds me of Minority Report, Attack of the Clones, the three Potter scores, and so it goes. Qui-GON29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,357 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Can't wait for the reactions when this doesn't make the cut for the OST! Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,504 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Can't wait for the reactions when this doesn't make the cut for the OST! Make a poll.... "Will the 30 seconds of music heard in the first official clip be on the OST?" a. Yes b. No c. Partial/micro-edited Please do not actually do this, anyone. crumbs, Bayesian, Smeltington and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The first clip we saw of TFA was a clip shown on 60 minutes which had score in it from "Follow Me" on the OST. I can't remember what the first TLJ clip released was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,603 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Make a poll.... "Will the 30 seconds of music heard in the first official clip be on the OST?" a. Yes b. No c. Partial/micro-edited Please do not actually do this, anyone. Probably option c if this is one of the major action setpieces of the movie. Recent JW OSTs don't leave out completely important action scenes, even if they are not there completely (Jungle Chase, Escape, etc). Well, maybe Holdo's Resolve, but that's an exception for a scene that lasts less than 3 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Probably option c if this is one of the major action setpieces of the movie. Recent JW OSTs don't leave out completely important action scenes, even if they are not there completely (Jungle Chase, Escape, etc). Well, maybe Holdo's Resolve, but that's an exception for a scene that lasts less than 3 minutes. Ah but the poll wouldn't be about the action sequence in general, but about that specific 30 seconds from the sequence. In which case another likely answer would be "Yes, and actually the music as heard in the clip is micro-edited and the OST track has 20 extra seconds inserted at 9 seconds into the clip" Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Sounds like typical meandering autopilot action underscore. I realize this is JWFan, but if THIS makes you cry...wow. Pretty much this. But only 30 seconds, so... After TLJ, I have no expectations for this anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,692 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The earliest clips I remember hearing from TFA were actually good. That Masters of the Universe/Goldsmith-esque chase music and a big rendition of the Force theme. Wasn't there like a 60 Minutes segment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: The earliest clips I remember hearing from TFA were actually good. That Masters of the Universe/Goldsmith-esque chase music and a big rendition of the Force theme. Wasn't there like a 60 Minutes segment? 1 hour ago, Jay said: The first clip we saw of TFA was a clip shown on 60 minutes which had score in it from "Follow Me" on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,944 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: The first clip we saw of TFA was a clip shown on 60 minutes which had score in it from "Follow Me" on the OST. Nah you’re misremembering, Jay, the first TFA clip wasn’t on 60 Minutes, it was like some cheesy Star Wars concert on ABC with Pentatonix singing Star Wars music (not sarcasm) 60 Minutes had Williams conducting bits of the opening cue, Scherzo for X-Wings, and Ways of the Force 1 hour ago, Jay said: I can't remember what the first TLJ clip released was. Pretty sure there wasn't one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Oh dip you're right! https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25791-first-clip-from-the-force-awakens-containing-williams-score-premieres-during-american-music-awards/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,692 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Jay should be demoted for not remembering that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,944 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 How could anyone forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 This actually reminds of Tintin - specially The Pursuit of the Falcon! 1:41 and 2:56 maybe - Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 How excruciating. I'd almost forgotten that abomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 8,826 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 Ugh. More whimsical action music going nowhere fast, much like THE LAST JEDI. Fortunately, my expectations are rock bottom for this, so I'm not likely to be disappointed, but I'm hoping for a few more thematic ideas here than TLJ. One month to go! The catapults were neat, though. Kinda MAD MAX. Remco, crumbs and gkgyver 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 40,605 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 TLJ is full of thematic ideas, though. Did you not notice Holdo, Rose, and Luke all got new themes? And that Rey's theme and the Resistance March go through tons of new permutations? Granted a lot of this stuff isn't on the album, but it's all heard in the film crlbrg, Tiburon, Remco and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 40,605 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 He edited his post to say nothing but "deleted" or just a period or whatever, so i deleted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 More excited for Song Of Names, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 40,605 Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Chewy said: Thanks so much for making this!!! Dunno why anyone would complain about this music. It's 30 seconds of a clearly much longer cue. You can find 30 second sections of many film music compositions that don't tell you much about the composition as a whole. I don't think anybody should have been expecting JW to come up with an entirely brand new way to score a chase scene in a Star Wars movie 9 films in. This music isn't groundbreaking but there's nothing wrong with it at all. Bring on the whole cue! crumbs, Arpy, Mattris and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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