Popular Post Fabulin 3,510 Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 . Remco, Tiburon, Bellosh and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 That "nooooooooo" really works. It's actually like there are danger and tension. Which is something I never felt during either TFA or TLJ (even though I liked those to movies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 . gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Wow, we're getting so much material now it's hard to keep up. That opening does indeed sound like a gigantic new choral version of Duel of the Fates, but it doesn't really sound like the way Williams would arrange it. The chorus sounds generic/sampled, certainly not singing Sanskrit or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 . Remco and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 It's trailer music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaestroUE 29 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I’ve been convinced with the use of Duel of the Fates in TROS since Don Williams’ comments so this doesn’t surprise me. On a side note; I hate the way they keep abusing JW’s iconic themes in crappy trailer music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Yes, these are terrible🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Will and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 The generic choir kinda ruins the vibe of DOTF. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 These TV spots have been progressively more and more interesting, mostly in that they are not like a lot of the other mini-trailers I've seen for other movies that just rehash footage from the full length trailers with occasional three second shots we haven't seen yet every third advertisement release. These ones actually show more and more previously unseen footage every time, and there are more and more every day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I don't need these tv spots. I decided back in 1977 that I want see the final episode in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Hmm...return to Ahch-To perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 At the end of this film, it cuts to 35 year old George Lucas waking up from a nap with the words “...and it was all a dream” written in blue text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I sure hope they don't pull a RotS and use Duel Of The Fates in an important scene, taking away a potential score highlight. The retro pandering is more than enough with this series. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, tmarps said: At the end of this film, it cuts to 35 year old George Lucas waking up from a nap with the words “...and it was all a dream” written in blue text followed by : Actually Directed by David Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,306 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 It's amazing how seamlessly The Imperial March slots into Duel of the Fates here. Just another sign of Williams' genius, that two totally different themes written decades apart can be layered together so effortlessly and sound like they were always intended to co-exist. Kinda makes me wonder how other themes might work in counterpoint with it. If the Imperial March is this seamless, why not the Emperor's or Kylo's Theme? Hell, if this underscores the film's epic fight, I see no reason why Williams can't weave Rey's Theme around it too. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,475 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 It wasn't really interpolated with the actual theme right? Just the ostinato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, gkgyver said: I sure hope they don't pull a RotS and use Duel Of The Fates in an important scene, taking away a potential score highlight. The retro pandering is more than enough with this series. I’m sure it will happen. And while I agree with you, I’ll love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, Remco said: I’m sure it will happen. And while I agree with you, I’ll love it. It would only get a pass from me if the orchestration is completely different. But directors usually love their direct quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 This isn't a trailer it's a commercial. But dang, I kinda liked all the music in it. Movie seems fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,336 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 It's 30 seconds long. It's a TV spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 There's no excuse for Williams not to knock this out of the park. The movie looks like it has everything he needs to write an incredible score to close off the saga. You can see why he was so excited after seeing the first cut (even without all the effects done). Will and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I realize the music they use in these spots gives no indication on what the score will be, but I do find it interesting that we're getting so many more promotional adverts using a variety of Williams themes from all across the board than in the spots for the previous two films. Are they just trying to fuel nostalgia? Possibly, sure. But it's enough to make a guy wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 So far as I can recall, not a single theme has been used in a promo for the sequel trilogy thus far, that didn't also appear in the score proper for the film it was promoting. This promo is as good as confirmation that DOTF returns, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 12 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Hmm...return to Ahch-To perhaps? I hope JW wrote some Al Newman-like wistful cues--she looks like Jennifer Jones in The Song of Bernadette. 15 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: It's trailer music To my ears, this could be trailer-ization of an actual cue from the real score. It's pretty much a given Duel of the Fates will be in the film. Falstaft and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Like poetry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 17 hours ago, crumbs said: It's amazing how seamlessly The Imperial March slots into Duel of the Fates here. Just another sign of Williams' genius, that two totally different themes written decades apart can be layered together so effortlessly and sound like they were always intended to co-exist. Kinda makes me wonder how other themes might work in counterpoint with it. If the Imperial March is this seamless, why not the Emperor's or Kylo's Theme? Hell, if this underscores the film's epic fight, I see no reason why Williams can't weave Rey's Theme around it too. The Imperial March and Duel of the Fates have the same harmony/very similar. The chromatic mediant as its known, Em-Cm/Gm-Ebm (Duel of the Fates) & Gm-Ebm (The Imperial March). I think it's why the force theme has been used so much in the marketing of the disney Star Wars era, it's so easily placed due it's diatonic like melody, works over any typical chord structure, but it's rarely (if at all) woven and crafted the way John Williams does. Like in the scene where Luke says to Obi-Wan, "I want to go with you to Alderaan", he plays the force theme over the horns in a G Minor context which is the same as Binary Sunset version, however in this Luke/Obi-Wan scene he plays that G Minor (hinted) melody in an Eb Major setting. This trailer music works for it's purpose I guess, but doesn't even come close to paying homage to the Williams scores. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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