Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 This isn't related to the Score Oscar, but you wanna know something wild? Brad Pitt is the favorite to win the Best Supporting Actor Oscar, which would be his first one. He is actually 3 years older than Al Pacino was when he won his first Oscar, which is considered the classic "this is in recognition of your career, not this performance" win. Al Pacino seemed as ancient and eternal as the mountains to me in the 1990s, but he was just in his early 50s Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,235 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Brad Pitt is the favorite to win the Best Supporting Actor Oscar, which would be his first one. *First for acting! I have similar thoughts as yours on Pacino with a lot of people. John Williams is that way too, he’s kinda been in his 80s for 30 years to me lol. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 While the TROS music is excellent, it has very little presence and impact in the film... which is what really killed Williams' chances of winning. And it doesn't help that the film wasn't well received, either. He'll no doubt be nominated since the music branch probably recognizes its brilliance outside of the film. Arpy and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 6:32 AM, Richard Penna said: I find HTTYD 3 far more consistently enjoyable and well crafted than TROS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Brad Pitt is the favorite to win the Best Supporting Actor Oscar, which would be his first one. He is actually 3 years older than Al Pacino was when he won his first Oscar, which is considered the classic "this is in recognition of your career, not this performance" win. Al Pacino seemed as ancient and eternal as the mountains to me in the 1990s, but he was just in his early 50s But he doesn't deserve the Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,276 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I didn't think Pitt's turn in Hollywood was anything to write home about, certainly not compared to the performances in The Irishman (both Pacino and Pesci, for that matter). Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Here's another Oscar curiosity: if Joaquin Phoenix wins Best Actor this year for Joker, it'll be the second time the same character gives two different performers the awards for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor - on this case, Heath Ledger, which won in 2008. The first one was Vito Corleone, who gave Brando the award for Best Actor in The Godfather and De Niro the award for Best Supporting Actor on Godfather Part 2. Of course, there's a few caveats. Firstly, Ledger unfortunately died before receiving his Oscar, while Brando famously refused his. Also, this is a little stretch, since the Joker from Nolan's movie is not exactly the same person than the character from Todd Phillips' movie, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Poltergeist didn't win the Oscar for Best Score, so who cares. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 LOL Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,470 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 She's the second coming! The greatest composer of the modern age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 More like the second coming of Trent Resznor and Atticuss Ross, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 She certainly has talent, but what does it help when filmmakers, audiences and award voters applaud music that avoids everything that made the art form great? I saw Joker now and the music didn't tell me anything about the film's story or its main character. It's a static and purely decorative accessory that stylishly fits the movie, but never comments, reflects or shapes dramatically. In short: it's the unthinking men's/women's dream score, sitting there to be marveled at like the ultra design edition of the new MacBook Pro. KK and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Poltergeist didn't win the Oscar for Best Score, so who cares. More deserving than that Stranger Things rip-off from John Williams. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 My compatriot Pablo Villaça, one of the most influent Brazilian critics these days (probably the most influent, since Rubens Ewald Filho passed away last year), published his bets for the Oscar nominations, and he is not so confident in Williams... Translating: Coringa = Joker, Adoráveis Mulheres = Little Women, Histórias de um Casamento = Marriage Story. Between parenthesis, he says: "Of course the Academy can remember that John Williams' score for The Rise of Skywalker is his goodbye from the series and nominate him, but..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 4:21 PM, TheUlyssesian said: She's the second coming! The greatest composer of the modern age! Just the woman we need to replace the racist film music of toxic male John Williams. Remco and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Nominations are announced today, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,620 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Yep, and it happens super early, at a bit after 5am L.A. time (I guess to allow the entire day for the PR machines to turn on). Just after 1pm UK time, which (*checks clock*) is about 30 mins from now! Streaming here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Very expected list Joker Little Women Marriage Story 1917 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,620 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Star Wars 1917 Little Women Joker Marriage Story It begins. (no surprises there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I love that Randy and Thomas Newman are nominated together. It's happened only once before in 1995, when Randy was nominated for Toy Story and Thomas for Unstrung Heroes. This is also Randy's first Original Score nomination since 2001, when he was nominated for Monsters, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Is there a full written list? I don't feel like watching a video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Nice! Randy got another nomination for a song from Toy Story 4. Good for him. 4 minutes ago, Þekþiþm said: Is there a full written list? I don't feel like watching a video. It's still going, it's live. The list will be up in a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Ohh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,620 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just finished. At least they cut out all the surrounding crap this time got straight to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I haven't seen it but I reckon Marriage Story will win a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,470 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Þekþiþm said: I haven't seen it but I reckon Marriage Story will win a lot. It will win only 1 - for Laura Dern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 It is one of the best score line ups in recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 John has deserved many wins. This years he doesn't even deserve the nomination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Alan Silvestri was robbed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Alan Silvestri was robbed! Ready Player One was eligible last year , not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,235 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I haven’t seen or heard Little Women yet. Of the other 4 I say Rise of Skywalker comfortably ranks #1 as listening music, and a distant #2 to 1917 as film score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Swap Joker with Avengers and this is my top 5. Not often they're this spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Oscar is already Hildur's. This will be one of the most boring years of all time in terms of competition for the award. Last year, there were still doubt about who would win among Mary Poppins Returns or Black Panther, and in 2017 I bet the dispute between Desplat and Greenwood was pretty close, but this year will be dull af. Richard Penna and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,235 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Nah Desplat and Goransson were easy givens. As a probable runner-up, T Newman is as much in the running as Shaiman/Greenwood were. 2014 was the last time I really wasn’t too sure who would win between Desplat x2, Johannsson, or Zimmer. That was a toss up but I think Grand Budapest won the BAFTA, so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 In 2017, yeah, probably Desplat was the frontrunner anyway, he had won the Globes and the BAFTA, although I still wasn't sure about him. He already had his Oscar, and the Award hasn't been given to someone which already had the statue since Santaolalla in 2006. If I'm not mistaken, the only composers to win another Oscar after they had won at least one before since the 90s were Barry in 90, Williams in 93, Menken's countless victories, Shore in 2003 and Santaolalla in 2006. Given how the Academy prefers to give the award to a newcomer, or someone on its first nomination, I was betting on Greenwood that year. But in 2018 the race was much more weird. Hurwitz won the Globes and wasn't nominated to the Oscars, A Star is Born won the BAFTAs (wtf?!?) and until the end I guess it was a very tight race between Black Panther and Mary Poppins, with Beale Street on their backs. I agree that 2016 and 2015 were predictable, and that 2014 was an interesting race, with pratically everyone having a shot (even Zimmer), except for that guy from that biopic about painting that nobody watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 An anonymous Oscar ballot from a member of the directors branch critizised the nomination of Williams, here is what he/she said: Original Score “Joker” will win for Hildur Guðnadóttir. I can’t deny it’s a great score. “1917.” However, Thomas Newman has never won. The music for that flaming village scene and the end cue of the movie are both extraordinary. I may vote for this. “Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker” is the only bullshit nomination. John Williams has done some amazing work, but not a single cue in this pops at all. https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/anonymous-oscar-ballot-2020-director-best-picture-1202207110/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,505 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 . crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Here's Jon Burlingame's analysis of this year's nominees. https://variety.com/2020/music/news/oscar-best-original-song-score-candidates-final-analysis-interviews-1203487858/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,620 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Joker's won the Bafta. Hildur has her oscar in the bag. Nothing to see here... Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,470 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I am beginning to think that Hildur will win an honorary Oscar before Williams. Bayesian and Tydirium 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,266 Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 They will invent a Nobel Prize for music just to give to her. Jurassic Shark, Tydirium and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,505 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 . Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I don’t get it, I just don’t get. Joker is such a nothing score. It’s just droning cello music. There’s no intricacy, no interesting or complicated orchestration. I’m sure Hildur is a great composer, but come on. Just listen to “The Speeder Chase” or “Little Women”. The colour, fluidity and complexity of these cues are just so superior to anything in Joker. This has triggered me more than the love for The Social Network. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I guess this is the tendency these days, the more minimalistic and droning, and the less emotion besides moodiness and maybe dread your score has, the more awards you are going to get. Case in point, Hildur's own Chernobyl. You just record some ambient sounds, manipulate them on the computer to ~create tension~ and there you have it, your very tense score that is going to be a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 This is not a 'tendency these days', it's Dark Knight-old, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 From the usual guy with whom shit originates, in other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Alex said: I don’t get it, I just don’t get. Joker is such a nothing score. It’s just droning cello music. There’s no intricacy, no interesting or complicated orchestration. I’m sure Hildur is a great composer, but come on. Just listen to “The Speeder Chase” or “Little Women”. The colour, fluidity and complexity of these cues are just so superior to anything in Joker. This has triggered me more than the love for The Social Network. Sure. But to Hildur's credit, at least her score actually leaves an impression and builds a personality for the film in context, despite its lacking subtlety. Desplat's whimsical, wandering figures for Little Women mostly just serve as functional sonic wallpaper. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Yeah, I’ll admit, in Little Women, the music feels like it was just written and then placed in the film, rather than being written for the film, if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 As most of Desplat's scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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