Popular Post Miguel Andrade 1,262 Posted November 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2019 New recording of Star Wars music on Sony Classical, with The Slovak National Symphony Orchestra under Robert Ziegler. Quote 1. Star Wars: Main Title 2. Duel of the Fates (From "Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace") 3. Anakin's Theme (From "Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace") 4. Across the Stars (Love Theme) [From "Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones"] 5. Battle of the Heroes (From "Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith") 6. Princess Leia's Theme (From "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope") 7. The Throne Room / End Title (From "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope") 8. The Asteroid Field (From "Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back") 9. Yoda's Theme (From "Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back") 10. The Imperial March (From "Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back") 11. Han Solo and the Princess (From "Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back") 12. Parade of the Ewoks (From "Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi") 13. Luke & Leia (From "Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi") 14. The Forest Battle (From "Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi") 15. Rey's Theme (From "Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens") 16. March of the Resistance (From "Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens") 17. Ahch-To Island (From "Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi") 18. The Battle of Crait (From "Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi") https://www.amazon.co.uk/Music-Star-Saga-Essential-Collec/dp/B07ZW8WPP9/ref=pd_rhf_eetyp_p_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=F559ERRCH3SG868QJXBV Bespin, SteveMc, Incanus and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Strange they didn't wait a few months to include music from TROS. What Sony really should do is to rerelease their two SW albums by Gerhardt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I’ve created a thread specially for non concert works new re-recording by the way, thanks! Note: To see all my discography related threads, you can click on the « discography » tag which appears at the top of each pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I guess Ziegler's album will have the premiere recording of the new arrangement of Han Solo and the Princess, the first love theme of the saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 If that is true then one might have to track this album down... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 This album is up on the streaming sites now. I think it's weird that it includes two pieces from The Last Jedi, but neither are the one official concert arrangement for it (The Resistance is Reborn). Both are transcriptions of OST tracks. And yes, this is the premiere studio recording of the new Han Solo and the Princess! Jurassic Shark and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I'd say the album is quite good, and I don't mind the selections from TLJ. But that's a tad too slow March of the Resistance! I wish they had chosen Anakin vs. Obi-Wan instead of Battle of the Heroes. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Listening on Spotify now! BTW, the physical CD is only $7.27 on Amazon US https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZW8WPP9/ OK, the recording of Han Solo and the Princess is pretty great! Only thing I didn't like was the sound of the bells (?) towards the end. On Parade of the Ewoks now, and it has the fun concert opening, like on the Gerhardt album Arpy and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 You could just make a playlist of the same tracks conducted by Williams or Gerhardt or Kojian in superior performances, just stick in this new recording of Han Solo and the Princess, and you'd have a great album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2019 Not if you enjoy consistency in performance and general sonic characteristics. aj_vader, Jurassic Shark and _deleted_ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 It's too bad this wasn't done with a better orchestra. These performances leave a lot to be desired. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 The choirs are just not up to the task of recording DOTF and BOTH. The performances on the album are perfectly adequate if it was a live concert, but not really as a studio album for posterity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Should have ditched the choirs entirely. Would have been a nice alternative. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 All the same shit. There are hours of music to re-record and they always go with the same old shit. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Indeed. Star Wars, Schmar Wars. When do people here at JWFAN stop obsessing over these films and scores and move on to the other great things of Williams' rich resume? filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,132 Posted December 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: All the same shit. There are hours of music to re-record and they always go with the same old shit. A cursory listen indicates these are the debut rerecordings of not only the new Han Solo & the Princess arrangement, but Ahch-To Island and The Battle of Crait from TLJ. Taikomochi, Jurassic Shark, Miguel Andrade and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 that was a really nice rendition of the new concert arrangement, listening to it was like discovering it for the first time again - its such a beautiful piece of music that is testament to the sheer transcendental quality that Williams is able to give his music even 30+ years on. Qui-GON29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, Falstaft said: A cursory listen indicates these are the debut rerecordings of not only the new Han Solo & the Princess arrangement, but Ahch-To Island and The Battle of Crait from TLJ. Yeah why is no one talking about The Battle of Crait!? How many times do we get concert versions of action cues from Williams? Jurassic Shark and Qui-GON29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Where's The Adventures of Han?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Yeah why is no one talking about The Battle of Crait!? How many times do we get concert versions of action cues from Williams? It's just a re-recording of the OST track, not really a concert version. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 5:06 AM, Jurassic Shark said: Strange they didn't wait a few months to include music from TROS. Just like how Silva Screen released a "comprehensive" Twilight album months before the last one came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,626 Posted December 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2019 Edit:ok, I listened to it. It's the best performance of the revised Han Solo and the Princess so far and in studio quality. Very happy to have this. Always remember some of Williams unique concert pieces still don't have studios recordings after many years (like Irina's Theme) so it could be the only recording we ever get. I like Williams August 2018 Tanglewood performance but this one is better and sounds more like Williams might have conducted it for an album and not like a crappy second rate re-recording we have a lot of the time. Williams plays it faster at 5 minutes vs 6 minutes on this album (But Williams always screws up his intended tempo at live concerts). Dirk Brosse and LSO was too slow at 7 minutes.This speed is a good middleground Pieter Boelen, Bayesian, Arpy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Jay said: OK, the recording of Han Solo and the Princess is pretty great! Only thing I didn't like was the sound of the bells (?) towards the end. The bootleg recordings from Williams have them too. Also the brass in this new recording is less aggressive in the last section and I like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 hours ago, crumbs said: It's just a re-recording of the OST track, not really a concert version. That's even _more_ rare! Jurassic Shark and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I listened to a few other tracks and it's an above average re-recording compilation. I tried to order this c.d. and it said it didn't ship to my address Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 What wonderful news to wake up to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Yes! @Jay Thanks for the heads up on amazon, snagged it right away! I love the new Han Solo and the Princess arrangement, the section from 4:28 onwards following the big statement of the theme is simply stunning! I put it among my favourite of Williams' output in recent years and would love for it to appear in TRoS. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Drew said: Where's The Adventures of Han?? There were just too many notes, so they had to cut a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Um, not to burst anyone's bubble, but I really do not like the new HSATP recording. Where's the tenderness and emotion that the LSO put into this piece? Here it just sounds like an exercise in note-playing. Come on, Dirk Brossé, release a CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I'm happy that the tempo of the segment I highlighted earlier isn't as fast as some of the live recordings, and much closer to Williams' original performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,480 Posted December 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2019 I just want to add my two cents. The Slovak National SO is not a nobody orchestra, they are well known and some of their recordings with Kirk Trevor (another conductor) are very appreciated among classical music lovers. Jurassic Shark, Jay, Qui-GON29 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 17 hours ago, Jay said: BTW, the physical CD is only $7.27 on Amazon US https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZW8WPP9/ 6 hours ago, King Mark said: I tried to order this c.d. and it said it didn't ship to my address I mean, you live in Canada. Use Amazon CA, not Amazon US. Like this https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07ZW8WPP9/ That works for any Amazon link. Just change the .com to .ca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay said: That works for any Amazon link. Just change the .com to .ca. Only if the album is distributed in Canada, it doesn't work for every CD, but in this case, fortunately, yes. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Bespin said: I just want to add my two cents. The Slovak National SO is not a nobody orchestra, they are well known and some of their recordings with Kirk Trevor (another conductor) are very appreciated among classical music lovers. And? There are plenty of "well known" orchestras that have released bad recordings over the decades. Slovak simply sounds bad here. The trumpet-playing, especially, sounds shoddy and lazy. Not City of Prague levels bad, but bad nonetheless. But the overarching issue is that the orchestra as a whole doesn't feel balanced here; check out for instance the bit at 1:27 of "Battle of the Heroes"; you should be hearing a strong trombone echo of the rhythm the trumpets just played... But what you end up with is muddied and practically nonexistent, volume-wise. Basically, the orchestra sections are not playing like they have a clue what's going on musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Han solo and the Princess sounds really good in this cd, I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Agreed, this is handily the definitive recording of the new “Han Solo and the Princess” to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Yeah, obviously, we don't have another one... Track 1 playing now, the strings are really not up to it sometimes. Tydirium and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miguel Andrade 1,262 Posted December 7, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just finished up listening to this one. I have to say that, being a fan of rerecordings, this is a major let down. The orchestra just doesn't sounds tight, as someone pointed out before, they don't really seem to have a clue to what they should be doing. A pity, as I've heard this same orchestra playing live Williams music, and they were much better back then. Also some transitions are just awkwardly done... sometimes they feel rushed, other just poorly executed. And the sequencing is silly... I know they wanted to go chronologically, but that just doesn't work. Battle of Crait just seems to be a fade in the end and I keep awaiting for a radio host to say "our time is up for this week... Join us again next week for the rest of this recording". Throne Room and End Title should have been moved to the end -- and going for the shortened version was probably because they really filled the 80 minutes of the CD and couldn't have the concert version there. All in all, I much more prefer the Japanese Philharmonic release from a couple of years ago, even though it only uses the concert versions, and the inclusion of the two Last Jedi tracks here were quite fun. As for Han Solo and the Princess, I'll keep going back to the live performance from November 2018 in London with Brossé and the LSO. By the way, someone mentioned Brossé recording Williams, he did included some Williams on one of his recent film music recordings but just nothing that hasn't been recorded a million times before. Ricard, Disco Stu, Tydirium and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tydirium 1,166 Posted December 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2019 I agree completely, Miguel. I wish this album were done by a different orchestra, with a better track arrangement. When it comes to "mainstream" (Sony is a big label, so this definitely fits that category) re-recordings of JW's film music within these past few years alone, this one severely pales in comparison to the recent offerings by Recording Arts Orchestra of LA (Williams), Boston Pops (Lockhart), LSO (Greenaway), and LA Phil (Dudamel). Why couldn't this album have been recorded by one of those orchestras, or perhaps any number of great orchestras including but certainly not limited to: London Phil, NY Phil, Berlin Phil, Czech Phil, Orchestra dell'Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia, Philharmonia Orchestra, Cincinnati Pops, Chicago Symphony, Seattle Symphony, Dallas Symphony, Detroit Symphony, Shanghai Symphony, etc.? There are so many better options out there. My guess is it's a money issue, but still, it's sad when a recording is wasted on a group that is not up to par. bollemanneke, Miguel Andrade and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: . As for Han Solo and the Princess, I'll keep going back to the live performance from November 2018 in London with Brossé and the LSO. it's way too slow! I think Tanglewood August 2018 conducted by Williams is the best live performance we have and actually sounds pretty good But I think the new climax section is the best on this new recording (4.15 to 4.50). it doesn't get overly loud and harsh like the other ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: and going for the shortened version was probably because they really filled the 80 minutes of the CD and couldn't have the concert version there. They packed it full! When it comes to The Throne Room, I know I'm not the only one at this forum who prefers the original, short version over the concert arrangement. 6 hours ago, Bespin said: I just want to add my two cents. The Slovak National SO is not a nobody orchestra, they are well known and some of their recordings with Kirk Trevor (another conductor) are very appreciated among classical music lovers. Never heard of him. Could you recommend a few albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Listened to HSATP again. It's actually not that bad, just lacks the passion the LSO put into the piece. Same could be said about all the tracks so far, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2019 Its probably a fine orchestra that recorded an album with minimal rehearsal time. Which is sadly a problem with today's music industry. bollemanneke, Jurassic Shark and Ollie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Yeah, but it's at least miles better than the old Prague / Silva Screen compilations. In several aspects it's also better than Gerhardt's Jedi. And it's better than some of the tracks on the JW conducted Star Wars Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Don't get your lightsabers in a knot over some recordings, geez. It sounds fine. It's not like there aren't going to be millions more of these types of albums in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I don't own a lightsaber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I don't own a lightsaber. Oh, sorry I meant 'Ms. Jurassic Shark.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 After TROS, isn’t it overdue that Williams resurrected the Skywalker Symphony to do some new recordings with selections from the entire saga? Then he’d include the new arrangements for HSATP and The Jedi Steps among other little odds and ends. Maybe not the Skywalker Symphony part, but it seems likely to me. And... ! We’d finally get new recordings of The Main Title, The Imperial March and Yoda’s Theme. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 ...and a new recording of Jabba the Hut where the tuba soloist doesn't sound like an amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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