Jay 37,287 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thor said: I know. To put it differently -- I don't want to know anything about the film at all, not even that which can be deduced from vague track titles. That's why I directed everyone who wants to do that to a different thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, RadJ said: The two "Kimji" tracks clearly have a new motif going on Yes. That and the new theme in Farewell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 “the new theme in Farewell” It’s almost comically Williams. Like “I love the new theme he introduces at the end of the credits!!!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tmarps 217 Posted December 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2019 This extract of score we had ages ago is 1:20+ of "Hallway Shooting" track 8 Will, Fancyarcher, Fabulin and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stravinsky 203 Posted December 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2019 Already I can hear this new score is cast in the same language as the last two Sequel scores. Same harmonic pallette and darkness. These scores have been more edgy, more visceral somehow. I love what I'm hearing. Williams has an inexhaustible supply of invention it seems. Its often the case with Composers whether for film or the concert hall, whereas pop artists have shorter shelf lives because they are restricted by the 3 minute song form. This is excellent music. Each new bar that comes is a new wonder. I'm seeing with my ears right now. When I see the movie itself I'll hear with my eyes. These last three scores have redeemed the patchy quality of the movies. This is exactly the kind of music I was hoping for before Force Awakens was released. A mirroring of the OT scores but shot through some darker prism. He never let's us down. Even at his advanced age he's got a fire of youth in this new writing. BRAVO MAESTRO WILLIAMS! Cerebral Cortex, _deleted_, crumbs and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The force theme at 1:20 in We Go Together is gorgeous - unlike anything I've heard lately in modern SW music. And the brass statement afterwards... oh my Falcon Flight... that emperor theme statement works great, and loving the brass bits from 1:13 to 1:25. Probably one of the better recent JW action cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,287 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, King Mark said: I'm at track 17 and a little worried I haven't heard a major new theme yet There's this little cool bit at 3.18 of Approaching the Throne I hope that's one That's clearly a major new theme, as it also appears at 0:02 of Rescue and 3:32 of Farewell crumbs, Will and crlbrg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Plot spoilers are not allowed in this thread, Thor. In Thor's defense, that ship sailed when you permitted people to discuss tracks with the titles embedded in the mp3 files themselves. The web page uses Track 1, Track 2, etc for this reason. Ambiguity. You might not consider it to be a plot spoiler that there is an old Death Star or that somebody approaches a throne in this movie, since these are FYC track titles, but now Thor knows, and that has spoiled his knowledge. In Jay's defense, Thor should have followed the link, gotten the music, and avoided this thread like the plague. It's JWFan, after all. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,625 Posted December 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jay said: That's clearly a major new theme, as it also appears at 0:02 of Rescue and 3:32 of Farewell yes I'm hearing it now. I hope it's a concert version because it sounds potentially fantastic . oh shit the end of Farewell! This is exactly the kind of grand finale I was hoping for and we never got for Return of the Jedi crlbrg, crumbs, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Criminy! I don't know if I should listen or wait. Thanks so, so, so much @thx99 all the same! THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED! WOW! thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Does anybody else hear a similarity between the theme at 0:15 of "We Go Together" (Track 3) and 1:14 of "Falcon Flight" (Track 2)? I thought the latter was a riff on Poe's Theme when I first heard it but now I feel like these two are related. I feel like I might have recognized it elsewhere, have to go through this again but this is the new melody that stuck out to me most. Not sure if there's any relationship between it and the "Farewell" theme, hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Track 14, does that end with Rey's Theme or Across the Stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,287 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2019 How's this to get us started 01 Prologue (1:45) 0:08 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:43 NEW THEME #1 (the swirly one) 0:48 Kylo Ren's Theme 02 Falcon Flight (2:22) 0:20 The Emperor's Theme 0:31 March of the Resistance 0:48 March of the Resistance 0:57 The Rebel Fanfare 1:30 March of the Resistance 1:53 NEW THEME #2 (the action one) 2:05 The Rebel Fanfare 2:09 The Death Star is about to blow up from ANH moment 03 We Go Together (2:10) 0:30 NEW THEME #3 (the Anakin's Theme-ish one) 1:07 Rey's Theme 1:21 The Force Theme 1:58 NEW THEME #3 04 In the Desert (2:26) 0:24 March of the Resistance 05 A Prisoner (1:23) 06 To Kimiji (1:37) 1:12 Rey's Theme 07 Fleeing from Kimiji (1:53) 0:00 NEW THEME #2 0:23 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:34 Kylo Ren's Theme 08 Hallway Shooting (2:11) 1:22 March of the Resistance 09 Hard to Get Rid Of (2:19) 1:29 The Emperor's Theme 10 Join Me (2:21) 0:58 Rey's Theme (dark and twisted version?) 1:16 Kylo Ren's Theme 1:28 Rey's Theme (dark again) 1:53 Luke's Theme 2:07 Rey's Theme 11 The Old Death Star (2:14) 0:58 The Imperial March 1:46 Poe's Theme 1:57 March of the Resistance 12 Off the Waterfront (1:03) 13 Final Saber Duel (1:38) 0:43 Kylo Ren's Theme 14 Healing Wounds (2:49) 0:40 The Force Theme 1:47 Leia's Theme 15 Advice (1:54) 1:18 sounds kinda like Rey's Theme? 16 Battle of the Resistance (1:54) 0:38 The Force Theme 1:19 The Force Theme 17 Approaching the Throne (4:16) 1:22 Rey's Theme (the dark variant again) 2:07 NEW THEME #1 3:18 NEW THEME #4 (the triumphant one) 3:33 March of the Resistance 18 Parents (1:57) 1:19 Kylo Ren's Theme 1:33 Kylo Ren's Theme 19 Coming Together (1:44) 0:00 The Emperor's Theme 0:11 Kylo Ren's Theme 1:18 The Force Theme 20 Seeing Sights (3:17) 0:24 NEW THEME #3 0:42 Rey's Theme (on piano!) 1:44 Rey's Theme 1:57 Kylo Ren's Theme 2:20 The Emperor's Theme (with bad-ass choir!) 2:49 The Force Theme 21 Rescue (1:10) 0:02 NEW THEME #4 0:39 The Rebel Fanfare 0:47 The Rebel Fanfare 22 Farewell (4:27) 0:13 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:48 sounds like a sad variation of Rey's Theme 1:27 sounds like a defeated version of Kylo Ren's Theme 1:44 Rey's Theme 2:35 sounds like... something? 3:32 NEW THEME #4 23 A New Home (1:42) 0:19 Rey's Theme Arpy, SteveMc, A. A. Ron and 12 others 9 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,387 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, woj said: Track 14, does that end with Rey's Theme or Across the Stars? Across the Stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,510 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Track 14 and Track 17 have some interesting moments. I'm going to have to listen to the OST before passing any judgement on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,742 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 New theme #4 reminds me a little of David Arnold which is obviously a good thing. Ricard, The Five Tones and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bellosh said: Across the Stars Actually, I think it's just Leia's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Loert said: Track 14 and Track 17 have some interesting moments. I'm going to have to listen to the OST before passing any judgement on this... Ouch! Loert and mrbellamy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 This score extract is 0:41+ of Track 11 (The Old Death Star) rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,387 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, woj said: Actually, I think it's just Leia's theme. Holy smokes you're right. When it's that slow, it sounds like Across the Stars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 So we can safely say that the Phantom theme Don Williams referred to isn't Duel of the Fates! So many pissed off fans will be crying AGAIN! 'No Duel of the Fates?!?!?!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,387 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I could never picture Duel of the Fates in ANY Star Wars film other than Episode 1. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Of course he meant the Emperor’s theme. It was obvious! Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,272 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 I feel like this actually increased the chances of Duel of the Fates scoring Rey vs Kylo? Because "Final Lightsaber Duel" is so brief and non-actiony, which makes me feel like it's an intro or dramatic interlude or something to actual battle music, and if the duel itself isn't on the FYC it may be a straight reprisal... Also occurred to me that the action music from the desert chase clip isn't on here? Right? It is very odd to think that we now have an hour of Rise of Skywalker music and so much of it probably won't even be on the OST. I kinda like it. rpvee, Edmilson, Cerebral Cortex and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 I like how Kylo's theme shifts slightly throughout - going from menacing to melancholic - even slightly optimistic in 'Parents'. SteveMc, Edmilson, Damien F and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Penna 3,671 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 There will likely be expanded edits combining this with OST material before some people have even unwrapped their OST Edmilson, crumbs, A. A. Ron and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Of course he meant the Emperor’s theme. It was obvious! I never believed he meant DotF, but I remember there were a few members here who did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Richard Penna said: There will likely be expanded edits combining this with OST material before some people have even unwrapped their OST It's like we've come full circle from 15-20 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just played Final Saber Duel expecting something not entirely remarkable given prior comments, but the ending really took me by surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Does anybody else hear a similarity between the theme at 0:15 of "We Go Together" (Track 3) and 1:14 of "Falcon Flight" (Track 2)? I thought the latter was a riff on Poe's Theme when I first heard it but now I feel like these two are related. I feel like I might have recognized it elsewhere, have to go through this again but this is the new melody that stuck out to me most. Not sure if there's any relationship between it and the "Farewell" theme, hmm. I guess it’s a theme for Zori Bliss since apparently she’s got something to do with Poe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 One last hurrah eh gents? Glad to be here for it. Will, Cerebral Cortex, crumbs and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Remco said: I guess it’s a theme for Zori Bliss since apparently she’s got something to do with Poe. That'd be cute! You guys we have an HOUR of new John Williams music and none of us have heard the soundtrack. This is so weird. Cerebral Cortex and rpvee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Oh my god... Luke and Leia with woodwind *and* female choir. And that new theme (#4 in Jay's breakdown) is awesome. This is a score of surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,387 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I was really hoping to have some Cloud City theme with Lando being in the film, on this FYC. Maybe it will be there in the film/ost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,625 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'm hoping for a full concert version of the Farewell Theme...unless he doesn't like Rose's Theme, Sophie'sTheme and Tintin's Heroic March Once, crumbs, Tydirium and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,387 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, King Mark said: I'm betting on a full concert version of the Farewell Theme...unless he doesn't like Rose's Theme, Sophie'sTheme and Tintin's Heroic March Haven't heard Rose's theme in this yet. I'm sure it will be there in the film. He used it too much in The Last Jedi for it to not come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 there was a bit of Roses's theme in the commercial The Farewell theme is beautiful but it sounds like something in a Disney Princess movie .Could totally be the ending of Frozen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dixon Hill said: One last hurrah eh gents? Glad to be here for it. Hear, hear! Gonna hold off until the movie to hear the score, but it's great fun reading these early reactions from you all. I'm trying to appreciate and savor this current buzz because who knows if these forums will ever be witness to another large JW score event like this. I'm very appreciative of being able to share in this excitement with you all in these final days. Love you all. Taikomochi and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 There’s corresponding material between Prologue and Approaching the Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Oh my god... Luke and Leia with woodwind *and* female choir. Where's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 in his dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, Dixon Hill said: Glad to be here for it. Here at the end of all things! Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Healing Wounds. Might be Leia's theme. I get those two confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 A lot of reports online now that the score is available. I wonder will Disney release the OST early on streaming now. I can't imagine they are too pleased with everyone streaming from the FYC site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 OK. I just finished an exciting first listen. I do dearly hope that the OST, freed from awards constraints, is stronger. This FYC felt mostly like random bits of underscore, and for the most part didn't feel like a satisfying end to a nine-film (or even 3-film) saga. BUT.... OH MY GOSH "We Go Together" and "Farewell" are beautiful And there are some other great moments I can't remember off the top of my head! Time for listen #2. SteveMc, Bofur01 and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Demondm810 399 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 theme #4 is straight gold Tydirium, crumbs, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Demondm810 said: theme #4 is straight gold it's forever the Farewell theme now! Tydirium and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 For an FYC they would've had to cut a majority of the Force/Luke/Vader themes, right? For qualifying? Like Scherzo for X-Wings in the TFA FYC removed most of the Luke statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2019 I see this getting pretty widely talked about like it’s the real soundtrack. I can’t imagine Williams or the team would be happy about that. The FYC is an afterthought in all this really. Will, crumbs and crlbrg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 There's a way they could've prevented that - release the OST sooner. But it depends on what is more important to Kennedy/Disney - awards or soundtrack sales. _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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