Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2020 "Parents" and "Coming Together" are incredible tracks. I hope the FYC releases in lossless sometime soon. Falstaft, Cerebral Cortex, Tiburon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,843 Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 Approaching the Throne (OST), Parents (FYC), Coming Together (FYC), The Force is with You (OST), and Farewell (OST) make for a very satisfying climatic listening experience that is rooted in drama rather than spectacle. Probably my favorite stretch of music combining both albums. Cerebral Cortex, Will, Holko and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldsmithfan 6 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Boy am I pissed that the FYC is down at the Disney page other than streaming. I had a feeling something stupid like this would happen since I saw this entry later in its release than the previous two in the trilogy. Half of the YouTube videos with the music have been removed too. Crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, Goldsmithfan said: Boy am I pissed that the FYC is down at the Disney page other than streaming. I had a feeling something stupid like this would happen since I saw this entry later in its release than the previous two in the trilogy. Half of the YouTube videos with the music have been removed too. Crap. Well, you’re in luck… see the OP: On 12/10/2019 at 2:11 PM, Jay said: In case Disney ever takes the files down, they are archived permanently here: Reveal hidden contents https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/1.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/2.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/3.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/4.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/5.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/6.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/7.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/8.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/9.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/10.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/11.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/12.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/13.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/14.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/15.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/16.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/17.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/18.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/19.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/20.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/21.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/22.mp3https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.s3.amazonaws.com/mp3/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/score/23.mp3 Unless you’re pissed for a more abstract reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Why are Disney making the FYC so inaccessible? Seems kinda counter-intuitive if the whole point is trying to secure a nomination/win...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 It actually makes perfect sense. It was up until the music branch had to submit their pics. The 5 nominees for all the categories hasn't been announced yet. No one's doing any boring right now. Voting starts after all the nominees are announced on Monday. If TROS is one of the 5 best score nominees, it'll probably be back up. If not, it probably won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Do you think there's any chance the potential re-uploaded FYC would be updated/altered? Since the film differs some ("Approaching the Throne", for instance) from the FYC we got, before. Not sure how strict they are, about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 The last time it was uploaded, it didn't have any alterations, so it's highly unlikely anything will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,683 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Seems most likely to me that they prepped the files and the site for a potential nomination and then accidentally made it public for the period they did. What reason would they have to intentionally stream them for a small window and wiith no titles? And particularly when JW wouldn't approve of non-voters hearing it like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 It wasn't streamed for a small window, thx99 simply happened to discover the URL a few hours before it was taken down. It was streaming long before that, we just had no idea. Again, it was streaming so members of the music branch could decide if they wanted to nominate it to be one of the 5 nominees announced on Monday that the entire academy will afterwards vote on to determine the winner. It was taken down at 5pm PST on that day, which was the day their nominations had to be submitted by. If @thx99 hadn't figure out the URL a few hours before that deadline, wed never have heard this album. He's a hero. crlbrg and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I thought it was taken down once the cutoff passed to make the shortlist of 15 scores, and the music branch has spent the last few weeks determining the 5 nominees from that shortlist. Isn't that the whole point of announcing the shortlist of eligible scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Isn't there only 2 rounds of voting, with the short list be announced before everything is re-tabulated and re-qualified to announce the final nominees? Or do the separate branches all re-vote again once the short lists are made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,477 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 There is 3. 1 - To determine the 15 shortlist (Music Branch) 2 - To determine the 5 nominees (Music Branch) 3 - To determine the 1 winner (Entire Academy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 I guess their thinking is the music branch already had the FYC by the deadline for round 1, so they don't need to make it available again for round 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,477 Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 My rationale is that the guidance by the academy is always and always to consider the score in context and vote based on that. Everyone and their mother in Hollywood was going to see Star Wars Ep 9. So visibility was not going to be a problem (that is what a Oscar campaigning is basically, making sure members see your films). But there was 1 extraordinary circumstance - which was that the date for the shortlist was before the release of the film. So as a stop gap, Disney released the FYC score to the music branch so that they could include it in the shortlist. -- This actually breaks protocol, because technically the music branch members put Williams on the shortlist WITHOUT watching the film and hearing the score in context. But I think this was a professional courtesy extended because of the sense that of course it is going to be one of the 15 best. So he kinda sorta got a free shortlist mention. But not the nomination. The nomination he will have to win by impressing his peers. -- I have seen this happen 1 other time. In the VFX category which also works in the similar 3 step process. The Hobbit film (don't remember which part) was not locked and the VFX were not done and the shortlist deadline was before the film. So the studio basically submitted the trailer and the VFX branch shortlisted it with the rationale that of course it was going to have one of the 15 best VFX of the year. It did eventually win the nomination. gkgyver, Bayesian and crlbrg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 0:41 - 0:42 It's crazy to me how you can have even just a single second of music like this such that, were you to hear it completely out of context, you'd still know exactly who the composer was and for what set of movies that moment was from. It's undeniably Williams doing his undeniably Star Wars sound. Love it. Jay, Will, MikeH and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post crumbs 14,306 Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: It's crazy to me how you can have even just a single second of music like this such that, were you to hear it completely out of context, you'd still know exactly who the composer was and for what set of movies that moment was from. It's undeniably Williams doing his undeniably Star Wars sound. Love it. Absolutely, it's those trademark flourishes where you instantly have a smile on your face upon first hearing it, just because it's such a distillation of Williams in this writing mode. Same with that great opening brass flourish in The Last Jedi, and the first Kylo Ren arrival in TFA. Will, Cerebral Cortex and ins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bofur01 245 Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 I saw David Arnold reply to a tweet saying that he only received his TRoS FYC yesterday... whether that was referring to just the DVD of the film, I don’t know... but it might be hopeful! Fabulin, Cerebral Cortex and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Bofur01 said: I saw David Arnold reply to a tweet saying that he only received his TRoS FYC yesterday... whether that was referring to just the DVD of the film, I don’t know... but it might be hopeful! Great news! Manufacturing delays I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 If selection was based on the FYC album alone, I wouldn't even vote for TROS. Thankfully the music is better in the film (despite the edits) and much better on the OST. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 It's definitely a weird selection, having become used to the OST but I'm not sure there's some huge missing setpiece that would improve it (that isn't primarily existing themes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Having The Speeder Chase would've. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 But it's mostly tracked and hacked up in the film, leaning heavily on action variations of Rey's Theme (pre-existing material) so its omission is understandable. The OST track would be a different story but barely any of it survived into the final cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I would say the destruction of Kijimi feels like a weird FYC omission considering it’s probably the most prominent use of Anthem of Evil in the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 They probably could've included the end credits from the fanfare up until the end of the Anthem of Evil arrangement, before the Imperial March starts. Other FYCs have shown you can just cleanly fade segments in and out even if it doesn't appear that way in the film. A nice summary of two new ideas to close the FYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_A_R_T_H 24 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Mmm..... ok....finaly ROS is nominated.... Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, D_A_R_T_H said: Mmm..... ok....finaly ROS is nominated.... It was previously nominated for a BAFTA award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 Still nothing on ebay BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I’m listening to the “THE FILM SCORE” edit more or less as Jay outlines in the OP, and I wanted to split it up into a “2-disc” program. Here’s how I broke it up, and where I placed the concert pieces. Fanfare and Prologue Journey to Exegol Falcon Flight We Go Together (OST) The Speeder Chase In the Desert A Prisoner To Kijimi Fleeing from Kijimi Hallway Shooting Hard to Get Rid Of I’m the Spy Join Me The Old Death Star Off the Waterfront The Final Saber Duel Healing Wounds Anthem of Evil The Rise of Skywalker Advice Destiny of a Jedi They Will Come Battle of the Resistance Approaching the Throne Parents Coming Together Seeing Sights Rescue Farewell Reunion A New Home Finale What do you think? Any other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 The FYC site is now back up, and it shows the track titles this time instead of track 1, track 2, etc https://disneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker/score 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Wan 65 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Jay said: The FYC site is now back up, and it shows the track titles this time instead of track 1, track 2, etc https://disneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker/score Is it the same music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 Yea crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 512 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 At 01.53 on "Hard to Get Rid Of" I think you can here a very brief appearance of The Imperial March. Now I have only seen the film once but is it not around that moment Vader's helmet transports from Ray on the Star Destroyer to Kylo Ren on Kijimi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 I don't hear Vader's Theme there myself, but the helmet crashes down shortly before the crescendo at 2:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Burke 0 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 How can you download it off this site? Or do I need software to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 What, the FYC album? The files are stored on Disney's website. Just right-click, Save As all the links in the main post of this thread. Nothing is stored on JWfan's server, it's on Disney's server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 My appreciation for Falcon Flight has grown considerably over the last week. I think it's probably the best (released) action cue on the score, and Williams definetly should've included that on the OST, instead of the less interesting Fleeing from Kijimi, for instance. Actually, I would've removed Journey to Exegol as well to open space for more important unreleased important material from the climax (of course, The Arrival of Lando and/or Ren and Rey vs Knights). Considering this is the final chapter, I guess music from the ending, the climax, should've been prioritized. Ideally, all the music should've been released on a 3 disc set, but since we're talking about 77 min OSTs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I would have been waaaay more miffed if Falcon Flight wasn't available in any form than I am about Lando Arrives. It's a lot more fun and interesing. Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 It’s especially bonkers that it was excluded since it was tracked all over the film. It plays like 3 or 4 times. It’s pretty hard to miss. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Holko said: I would have been waaaay more miffed if Falcon Flight wasn't available in any form than I am about Lando Arrives. It's a lot more fun and interesing. And there's even an early alternate of the cue as well, that we might never hear... Just now, Taikomochi said: It’s especially bonkers that it was excluded since it was tracked all over the film. It plays like 3 or 4 times. It’s pretty hard to miss. I'm too lazy to check but presumably these instances aren't covered in that leaked spreadsheet? Considering that version of the film is dated around the same time Falcon Flight was actually recorded, which means all this tracking occurred in the dying weeks of post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, crumbs said: I'm too lazy to check but presumably these instances aren't covered in that leaked spreadsheet? It isn't, unfortunately, but I remember on the Complete Score thread we found out that one of the instances on which it was tracked was during the Speeder Chase scene. The other was I think during the climax. Actually, on the Nov 11 cut, it was predicted the usage of Speeder Chase (3M03 No Title), albeit in a shorter form (the OST version has 3:21, the movie would've used 2:16). So maybe the OST is a concert arrangement, or maybe when Williams recorded this music the scene was a little longer, then got trimmed down, and then the music got ultimately unused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: It isn't, unfortunately, but I remember on the Complete Score thread we found out that one of the instances on which it was tracked was during the Speeder Chase scene. The other was I think during the climax. Actually, on the Nov 11 cut, it was predicted the usage of Speeder Chase (3M03 No Title), albeit in a shorter form (the OST version has 3:16, the movie would've used 2:16). So maybe the OST is a concert arrangement, or maybe when Williams recorded this music the scene was a little longer, then got trimmed down, and then the music got ultimately unused. Probably a case of a film cue, with a CD only concert ending Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Probably yeah, but one minute of a CD only ending? I dunno, even with that I still think the chase was a little longer, maybe 30s or more, when Williams scored it. Then by Nov 11 they trimmed his composition to 2:16 before ultimately deciding to not use the music at all by the final cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Is there still hope for a lossless release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 Doesn't seem like it. No pressed CDs ever showed up on ebay, most likely indicating Disney never mailed any out Every voting member is probably of clicking a weblink and listening to a score on a website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Edmilson said: My appreciation for Falcon Flight has grown considerably over the last week. I think it's probably the best (released) action cue on the score, and Williams definetly should've included that on the OST, instead of the less interesting Fleeing from Kijimi, for instance. Fleeing from Kijimi is one of my favourite cues, you monster! Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 13 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 So I saw the movie again and I believe that the opening of the movie is an edit of Fanfare and Prologue (OST) [0:00 to 1:42] Prologue (FYC) [entire track] Fanfare and Prologue (OST) [2:04 to 4:34] Could be wrong on the edit time codes but I think they are close. Also Journey to Exegol seems to be the Alternate for the opening sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Jay said: Doesn't seem like it. No pressed CDs ever showed up on ebay, most likely indicating Disney never mailed any out Didn't David Arnold post on Facebook that he only just received his copy of the FYC around the same time the nominations were announced? That would imply a physical copy, not a download link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, crumbs said: Didn't David Arnold post on Facebook that he only just received his copy of the FYC around the same time the nominations were announced? That would imply a physical copy, not a download link. That doesn't imply it's a physical copy. For all we know he was sent a digital copy via email from the academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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