Larry O 115 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I had my music player set to "repeat album" before I even hit play on the first listen aescalle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aviazn 273 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, King Mark said: Rise of Skywalker is one of the most beautiful concert version ever. it's in Jurassic Park Theme and Harry's Wondrous World territory It really hits the OT feels for me—some of the broad romanticism of the ESB Finale, but mated perfectly to Williams' recent string writing since War Horse and Lincoln. A beautiful continuation of the direction he started on with his reworked Han Solo and the Princess. Edmilson, Larry O, crlbrg and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry O 115 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Also, it only just now occurred to me, on my way through the second listen, that despite hoping for a new version/arrangement of Duel of the Fates, not only did I not get it, I didn't miss it, nor was I disappointed by its absence. If it shows up in the movie but not the soundtrack, it'll be a nice surprise, like Palpatine's theme in The Last Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Reunion sounds like a End Credit segment 1 minute ago, First TROS March Accolyte said: I think I will re-listen to it a couple times, go watch the film, read 20 more pages on this thread, and then make up my mind what I think of it. My initial impression is just not positive. I thought you liked the FYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 My ATH-MSR7b are ready. Just have to wait for the soundtrack to be legally available in great quality. Not even interested to try to find the already available version ; your various comments are enough for me. It'll be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I really can't get over how great this re-recording of the Imperial March sounds. Obviously cleaner than the OST, but acoustics are not as dry, and crisper than the Dudamel live recording. Holy hell, the percussion in the interlude at the beginning of the coda! But it's soooooo slow. Compare… aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry O 115 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, King Mark said: Reunion sounds like a End Credit segment I do wonder if that medley section of it will appear in the film version of the end titles. The film version almost has to be different, because the end credits are only 9:25 long in the film, and the pre-finale bit (which I think is tracked from The Last Jedi?) is only 33 seconds. What's on the soundtrack is a minute longer than what's in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Speeder Chase is great. The complete version is probably 3 times as long though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, toothless said: My ATH-MSR7b are ready. Just have to wait for the soundtrack to be legally available in great quality. Not even interested to try to find the already available version ; your various comments are enough for me. It'll be great OMG, you have $250 worth earphones? Sorry for the off topic. Go on everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,650 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, filmmusic said: OMG, you have $250 worth earphones? Sorry for the off topic. Go on everyone. What he lacks in teeth, he more than makes up for in headphones. toothless and Once 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, King Mark said: Speeder Chase is great. The complete version is probably 3 times as long though And it will remain unreleased FOREVER. ins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tom said: What he lacks in teeth, he more than makes up for in headphones. My 1000$ Grados are handling this well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,424 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Listening to the OST right now with the crappy earphones I have on my work. I have better ones at home, but I wouldn't be able to wait until I get there, lol. Has anyone already done a theme breakdown on the tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,336 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 Overall, my first impression of the soundtrack was extremely positive. I'd say I liked it MUCH more on first listen than I did the Force Awakens or Last Jedi OST albums. I grew to love the Force Awakens OST album, but my first listen was not an instant love, as it was so different from my expectations. The Last Jedi I l liked fine and still do, but was not blown away by anything. But this album blew me away. You can hear passion and excitement in this work. The Rise of Skywalker and The Speeder Chase are instant classics! The album overall has a nice flow and pace to it. The strengths of this work are the new themes (especially The Rise of Skywalker theme and the trio theme), the great new renditions of the other sequel trilogy themes (he continues to find ways to make Rey's, Poe's, and the Resistance's themes stray fresh), and the fact we finally got a proper John Williams action set piece track in a Star Wars score again. The weaknesses are the straight-up renditions of Original Trilogy themes towards the end of the album, and an overall unsatisfying end credits medley. I am thrilled we have a nice FYC with lots of additional music, and can't wait to see the film to hear what else it has is store for us. crumbs, ChrisAfonso, bollemanneke and 10 others 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Edmilson said: Has anyone already done a theme breakdown on the tracks? I bet Jay is working on it...or not... Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, First TROS March Accolyte said: Pardon my Live-editing tendencies. This is part of the reason of my disappointement. OST is much longer and yet not that exciting (lack of big, swinging themes or big setpieces), and has an overly long, imho weirdly (incomprehensibly even) structured ending, which drags forever (I was bored and empty at this point). As for various tracks, I got used to the FYC edit. I also expected the OST to match the energy of ROTJ, ROTS, or frankly every other Star Wars film. Here, it feels like Harry in front of the mirror, then a scene from Warhorse, then the ending of Home Alone, and oh my god just give me Across the Stars, or an uninterrupted March of the Resistance, or just anything lyrical and in vigorous motion. The sappy ending with Luke & Leia, Yoda, Rey + the new (slow) theme just sapped whatever energy remained out of me. The new recording of the Imperial March is nice, I guess. Most of us will be combining the 2 shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,087 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: Anthem of Evil - HOLY COW, that opening! It opens with a spooky whispered version of The Emperor's Theme. Wow! As this track goes on, it keeps the quiet and subdued air to it...... this is really really cool. Now there's a new theme playing, I think the theme from FYC Prologue and FYC Join Me? The intensity is really picking up now, and now a nice grand finale. That was a cool arrangement, but The Rise of Skywalker is the clear standout concert arrangement of this score Both of these are the new stand alone set pieces. I love the way Rise of Skywalker ends-reminds me of the way he used to end his themes back in the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Is Speeder Chase the only sequel trilogy action cue to not feature any existing themes at all? TFA: “The Bombing Run” track I would assume contains multiple cues; the first part (the action cue) doesn’t feature any existing themes, unless you count the thing that sounds like “Luke about to shoot the Death Star” ostinato. By that logic, perhaps the second half of “I Can Fly Anything”? Also, “The Rathtars”? (The little bit on the TFA doesn’t have any recognizable themes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biodome 714 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I made the mistake of letting the FYC leak influence my expectations of the OST. I thought I'd place it somewhere between The Force Awakens, and The Last Jedi. But no, it is miles better than either of them. The FYC barely scratched the surface, and I am delighted that that was the case. I'm just halfway through the album, yet I've already heard action music and thematic romanticism that exceeds my expectations. These are wonderful, highly varied, deeply developed works, suitable for a concert hall, to be played alongside John Williams classics. It's all a pleasure to listen to. He damn better play some of those pieces in Vienna. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I bet this OST+FYC just scratches the surface... ins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, King Mark said: I bet this OST+FYC just scratches the surface... You really believe he would leave the best material out of the ost and FYC? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 I will say that I prefer the big statement of the Rise of Skywalker theme from the end of "Farewell" to the one in the concert arrangement. The choir adds SO much. crumbs, SteveMc, The Illustrious Jerry and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,424 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I'm really liking the track The Rise of Skywalker. It sounds like a more "epic" version of Rose's Theme and Anakin's Theme, mixed with Fawkes the Phoenix. I also hear some of the "magic" he put on his early 90s scores, like Hook and the Home Alone movies. Pretty great! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pellaeon 593 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 Makes sense, though, that he wants an arrangement to play in symphony concerts without choir. Tydirium, Fabulin and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, filmmusic said: You really believe he would leave the best material out of the ost and FYC? of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,424 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 It wouldn't be the first time. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Gotta say I'm really not feeling The Speeder Chase outside of the few moments where brass takes centre stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: Makes sense, though, that he wants an arrangement to play in symphony concerts without choir. Oh of course, I get why the concert version doesn't have choir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 TFA OST didn't have The Resistance, the coolest moment in the score TLJ was missing a lot of awesome music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jay said: an overall unsatisfying end credits medley. Yeah, like @Larry O said, it seems JW just couldn't resist pulling out the old Throne Room. In my mind, the true ending to this album is the end of The Rise of Skywalker. That lovely fade with the strings and the harp is a perfect rhyme with those soft, searching statements of Rey's Theme that ended the TFA and TLJ albums. Those were like questions, and The Rise of Skywalker theme is the answer. In my dreams, the Signature Edition includes the end of The Rise of Skywalker as an alternate, just like how with Jedi Steps and Finale you can pick from the Throne Room or the OST ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Oh of course, I get why the concert version doesn't have choir. I like both versions and the one in the Credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Listening to this... it just feels more 'Star Wars' than the TFA and TLJ OSTs did. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 They Will Come is awesome. Super uplifting versions of Rise of Skywalker and the best rendition of March of the Resistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Is "Reunion" a Concert suite? Honestly, I really hope it's not a real scene of the movie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,424 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I love the string writing on Destiny of a Jedi. These cellos... It's like a Star War-ized version of War Horse. I guess, on the movie, this track is made of several cues scattered throughout the film, playing every time Rey hears a wise advice from someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 sounds like a discarded End Credit bit. 1 minute ago, Bespin said: Is "Reunion" a Concert suite? Honestly, I really hope it's not a real scene of the movie!!! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bespin said: Is "Reunion" a Concert suite? Honestly, I really hope it's not a real scene of the movie!!! It should have been titled: Spoiler Parade of the Force Ghosts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,336 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 I'm driving home from work for the next 45 minutes but then I'll begin work on figuring out the OST and FYC differences Damien F, Fabulin, Ricard and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Great score indeed. Definitely has more life and motion than TLJ. TFA still has a certain boldness to it, and more thematic invention that I somewhat miss in this one, but, I've got to remember this is a finale to a trilogy, and, as that, it is excellent. The main weakness is the underwhelming Finale and the odd Reunion, and even A New Home, which lacks enough impact, to me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, King Mark said: sounds like a discarded End Credit bit. I dunno, sounds like an awards ceremony, or a curtain call where everyone comes out and takes a bow. Seems like a very plausible way for JJ to wrap things up. Though if that's how it ends, I'll also be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanskie 104 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Yeah, this album is really good. As expected, the presentation is much better than the FYC. There are a few moments from the FYC missing in this, like that section of "Prologue," but that doesn't matter much because we already have it on the FYC anyway. Rey's theme and Luke and Leia's theme near the end of "Reunion" are really moving. I'm glad that "Finale" isn't full of music tracked from the rest of the film! Oh, and that section of "Palpatine's Seduction" in "Fanfare in Prologue" at 2:42... it was a pleasant surprise. I do wish more of the prequel music had been reflected in here, but it's alright. We had three films of that. Though if Don is correct, and every theme from all other eight films are in this movie, then there'll be more of the prequel themes in the movie, just not on the album or the FYC. That being said, I don't really think it's necessary--this movie shouldn't be a rehash of all the other ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,403 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 The ending of 'Finale' is just an absolute love letter to Star Wars. But I still think the Revenge of the Sith's end credits is a slightly better love letter. Oswin Pond, MikeH and Molly Weasley 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, SteveMc said: The main weakness is the underwhelming Finale and the odd Reunion, and even A New Home, which lacks enough impact, to me at least. yeah but it's a lot better than having bits of score edited togheter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Is it just me or was there a distinct lack of action material? Like less than perhaps would be expected for a Star Wars film. Fabulin and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,424 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Holy crap, I'm loving the new themes The Rise of Skywalker and Anthem of Evil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wierzbowski85 7 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alex said: Is it just me or was there a distinct lack of action material? Like less than perhaps would be expected for a Star Wars film. Including 'Falcon Flight' would have helped that... Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 @Jay Which cues should I be listening to on this album? Just a handful of your faves so far, sell it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, filmmusic said: OMG, you have $250 worth earphones? Sorry for the off topic. Go on everyone. Cheaper than any fancy Bluetooth headphones such as Bose headphone 700 or Sony wh1000xm3 and way better sound quality. I really dig the neutral sound of ATH Soundstage is awesome. Sure when buying it hurts a bit to throw $250 but in the long run it’s more cost effective than buying cheap headphones more regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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