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The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion

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On 12/31/2019 at 1:40 AM, TheUlyssesian said:

If it fit they wouldn't have cut it out.

 

My guess - JW wrote a version of the speed chaser cue for an earlier version of the scene. 

 

JJ then tinkered with the scene and recut it. JW adapted to it.

 

JJ again recut it. JW is like fuck it - I am going to my original sketch and writing a concert arrangement for album. JJ baby you can use pieces from it or track music from other places as is your desire anyways.

 

Both agree. 

 

JW records his concert arrangement for album. JJ out of respect uses a tiny portion in the film.

 

All sides happy. JJ can fuck the hell off. And we can get a great new piece in the vein of asteroid field.

 

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Also listen to the full statement at 46s

 

 

It is basically a full theme - not just an action figure. It has a full 4 phrases in this statement - that's almost too much for what is supposed to be an action figure to use in a chase scene. JW couldn't possibly hope to include such a broad statement in the scene specially when he is competing with loud FX. Methinks this might be an expansion of his original sketch - fleshed out for a concert setting.

 

There is another full statement of the theme at 1:43 - first 3 phrases are intact, 4 has evolved a little bit this time. 

 

Again at 2:32 there is a full statement of the theme - first 3 phrases are intact, 4th again has evolved. 

 

(And honestly the theme is good enough to be an actual character theme for some other composer. It is good and memorable enough to be the heroic identity of the action hero character in a swashbuckling film for example. It is so easily malleable that the possibilities are endless.)

 

So if you are to consider it a concert setting - this is how the theme is stated - 

 

A. Teasing the first 2 phrases

B. 1st full statement of theme

C. 2nd full statement of theme with some changes

D. 3rd full statement of theme with some changes

E. last 2 phrases taking a bow in a concert ending setting

 

The piece itself is also just begging to be performed in concerts. It would make an exciting, fast paced and entertaining and fun little performance piece.

 

On 12/31/2019 at 4:28 AM, Jurassic Shark said:

It's clearly a concert arrangement.

 

On 12/31/2019 at 9:26 AM, Jay said:

To me The Speeder Chase on the OST is clearly a film cue, with a special, album-only, concert-arrangement-style ending tacked onto the very end of it.

 

I am sure the scene itself was longer than it is in the final film when Williams wrote this cue, which is why the lengths are different.

 

Clemensen agrees with my theory. He classifies The Speeder Chase as a concert suite! 

 

https://www.filmtracks.com/titles/rise_skywalker.html

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5 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

Is this writer/editor's research and analysis on the score largely sourced from threads on JWFan, Frank Lehman and Mark Richards, etc. or coincidence and he's doing all this work in parallel himself? It's an interesting, very comprehensive review.

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