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I can't believe it's not John Williams! (the best imitators)


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2 hours ago, Pando said:

I think Thomas Bergersen comes pretty close. His music is always an inspiration.

 

This track might have come straight from the latest star wars and no one would have noticed that it's not JW.

 

This is a MIDI mockup he did more than 10 years ago to showcase his private library.

 

 

 

Anyone know what instrument library he's using?

 

EDIT: Nevermind. He uses 2 custom/private libraries mixed with VSL.

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4 hours ago, Fabulin said:

So... this composer actually invented Williams' Star Wars sequel sound before Williams himself did it?

 

More like inspired by the prequel sound. I just looked up, it was done in July 2006, so after RotS came out. There was even a MIDI file of this floating around, the first 25 seconds of it. I may even have it stashed away in a hard drive somewhere.

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this Desplat cue from Rise of the Guardians sounds like Williams. The opening notes intro  remind me of a Williams cue I can't quite place  and it's bugging me

 

 

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Try Mike Batt's score to 'The Dreamstone'. It's not a deliberate or obvious imitation of John Williams, rather it's an alternative prime example of memorable, richly thematic, Romantically orchestrated television scoring - which are the same characteristics I so admire about JW's best works.   
 

 

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Randol Bass definitely gets on this list. He has some corny stuff for educational ensembles, but his Gloria written in 1990 actually predates Call of the Champions by quite a bit despite sounding really similar. Can't find a good recording of his night before christmas, but it has elements of that childlike orchestration from ET, BFG, and Home Alone etc.

 

 

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Don't forget Sam Cardon.

One of my favorite works in this category is Kevin Kaska's concert work "The Wizard of Menlo Park."  The finale is especially Williams-esque.

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I don't count McNealy and Debney as Williams imitators as their entire career is based on imitating other composers e.g. Horner

For a good one off try Rosenthal and CLASH OF THE TITANS( SW)

or SKY CAPTAIN which is a RAIDERS knockoff.

 

JG did a good JW in KING SOLOMON'S MINES

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I always thought Jeremy Soule's early work was great at scratching the Williams / melodic itch.

 

 

 

I also really love Jacob A. Cadmus' score to Star Wars Theory's Vader fan film. It's such high quality for a film that's essentially nothing but fan service.

 

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Some of Mark Griskey's action tracks for KOTOR 2 do the Star Wars sound so well that I'm almost tricked into thinking they were unused action cues for the Prequels. Clearly I'm not the only one that thinks this, because they ended up intermingling a few of them along with Williams music in the Revenge of the Sith PS2 game:

 

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I found these to contain several stylistic elements reminiscent of JW's action music:

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, DarthDementous said:

Some of Mark Griskey's action tracks for KOTOR 2 do the Star Wars sound so well that I'm almost tricked into thinking they were unused action cues for the Prequels. Clearly I'm not the only one that thinks this, because they ended up intermingling a few of them along with Williams music in the Revenge of the Sith PS2 game:

I absolutely love Griskey's game scores for Star Wars. I hope that KOTOR II being released on the Wii will give us some higher quality music to listen to. His KOTOR II score and the Force Unleashed scores absolutely need an official high quality release somehow. SOMEHOW.

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6 hours ago, TheAvengerButton said:

I absolutely love Griskey's game scores for Star Wars. I hope that KOTOR II being released on the Wii will give us some higher quality music to listen to. His KOTOR II score and the Force Unleashed scores absolutely need an official high quality release somehow. SOMEHOW.

I assume you mean the Switch and not the Wii, the latter would be wild though (hold up joycon facing up to choke life out of opponent)

 

The video I linked and the rest of the KOTOR 2 tracks on that channel are probably the most HQ versions I’ve found so far, for a while there was only highly compressed LQ out there. They’ve also been nicely edited together
 

As a bonus, here's a comment from the composer himself I found on those videos about his attitude when writing a Star Wars score:
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The unofficial YouTube upload of the KOTOR II soundtrack got blocked by UMG by being copyright claimed with tracks with an unknown release. It is possible an official KOTOR II album is being released.

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16 hours ago, Drew said:

The unofficial YouTube upload of the KOTOR II soundtrack got blocked by UMG by being copyright claimed with tracks with an unknown release. It is possible an official KOTOR II album is being released.

Oh my, it's possible! Especially with the imminent release of the port. Fingers crossed

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On 29/05/2022 at 6:12 PM, Dr. Know said:

I give you Cameron Moody...

And here he is conducting his own piece.

 

 

Wow! I've never heard of this composer before. There is so much of JW's sound in Moody's compositions shown here. It's actually exciting to hear someone writing in the same stylistic ballpark as JW as a modern composer.

 

Wow again, I just listened to his re-score for this chase scene and you will literally think you are listening to JW action music with a slightly different voice. But the rhythmic tendencies and orchestration is totally JW. 

 

https://youtu.be/ym-AZjPZ-a0

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On 15/7/2020 at 11:16 PM, King Mark said:

this Desplat cue from Rise of the Guardians sounds like Williams. The opening notes intro  remind me of a Williams cue I can't quite place  and it's bugging me

 

 


The beginning of that track for some reason reminds me of the beginning of “Rescue” from the Rise of Skywalker FYC.

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Many people writes Harry Potter references to comment section. I specifically don't hear anything from HP in there. It's just interesting that all the orchestral music sounds like Williams to the young generation.

 

 

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Randol Bass was mentioned earlier in this thread.  He really is an amazing composer, especially of Christmas medleys and arrangements.  Here's a band piece in JW-mode.

 

 

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19 hours ago, artguy360 said:

This track from The Duel from Stars Wars: Visions sounds a lot like JW. I think it is clear the entire short was temped with JW SW music including Duel of the Fates.

 

 


Big Scherzo for X-Wings vibes at the start there

The main duel piece actually reminds me of The Force Unleashed theme funnily enough, which itself is a good candidate for this thread. Well done to Jesse Harlin and Mark Griskey:

 

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Thought I would give the spotlight to some of the lesser known Star Wars composers

 

Enter Lennie Moore, who delivered this piece for the game Star Wars the Old Republic as the planet theme for Coruscant

 

Often when composers try to write in the Star Wars style it’s predominantly influenced by Prequel era music, but what I find so special about this track is how much it evokes the Original trilogy with its simultaneously soaring romantic quality as well as its uneasy dissonance. The main Coruscant theme is just majestic as well:

 

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23 hours ago, DarthDementous said:

Thought I would give the spotlight to some of the lesser known Star Wars composers

 

Enter Lennie Moore, who delivered this piece for the game Star Wars the Old Republic as the planet theme for Coruscant

 

Often when composers try to write in the Star Wars style it’s predominantly influenced by Prequel era music, but what I find so special about this track is how much it evokes the Original trilogy with its simultaneously soaring romantic quality as well as its uneasy dissonance. The main Coruscant theme is just majestic as well:

 

Lennie is a fantastic composer!  

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26 minutes ago, karelm said:

Lennie is a fantastic composer!  


I was really impressed with his stuff for SWTOR. What are some of his other tracks that you'd recommend?

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On 08/06/2022 at 6:56 AM, Darth Mulder said:

Many people writes Harry Potter references to comment section. I specifically don't hear anything from HP in there. It's just interesting that all the orchestral music sounds like Williams to the young generation.

 

 

 

This music stood out to me when I played the game. Is it on the soundtrack album?

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9 hours ago, Drew said:

This music stood out to me when I played the game. Is it on the soundtrack album?

 

Yes, of course. 

 

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I posted this in the classical recommendation thread but really wanted to post it here (but couldn't remember the thread name), anyway...

 

I went a bit mad in the Presto Classical sale, particularly Naxos hi-res downloads which are around £3 each, I've now bought almost everything that qualifies in the sale from my wish list (classical music really is a much cheaper hobby than film music!). I'm sure I'll have lots of great discoveries but I wanted to recommend the album Balance of Power by Peter Boyer, which is basically an album of short-ish orchestral works but basically if you want more music in JW 80s Olympic theme style, not to mention plenty that takes more than a little inspiration from his film music (the Americana stuff like Saving Private Ryan), if more in style than anything specific (a bit like Kevin Kaska's concert works that sound like action music from AOTC etc.), then this is definitely worth picking up. There's another Boyer album of his first symphony and various other short concert works which are all very much in the same vein. Being on Naxos, they are dirt cheap, but it's the LSO in great sound... as I said, collecting classical music is a whole lot cheaper than film music sometimes!

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