Edmilson 7,427 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I wanted another mystery thriller like Zodiac and Gone Girl, but this seems pretty good. It's good to have Fincher, one of my favorite directors, back. Quote David Fincher’s ‘Mank’ Is Halfway Done With Filming: ‘It’s Not Just a Biopic’ The new year is almost upon us and it goes without saying that David Fincher’s “Mank” is one of the most highly anticipated films of 2020, right up there with Wes Anderson’s “The French Dispatch,” Guillermo del Toro’s “Nightmare Alley,” and Christopher Nolan’s “Tenet.” “Mank” is Fincher’s first feature directorial effort since 2014’s “Gone Girl” and marks a reunion between the director and Netflix, the home of his serial killer drama series “Mindhunter.” Fincher’s longtime location manager William Doyle told Daily Press just before Christmas that “Mank” is roughly 50% done with principal photography. The “Mank” production spent most of December filming at Kemper Campbell Ranch in Victorville, California. Doyle was keen on using the ranch for “Mank” considering the location has direct ties to the film’s storyline. “Mank,” written by the director’s late father Jack Fincher, tells the true story of Herman J. Mankiewicz as he sets out to write the script for Orson Welles’ “Citizen Kane.” Mankiewicz, played by Gary Oldman in Fincher’s movie, won an Oscar for the screenplay. Doyle teases that “Mank” is “not just a biopic about” the legendary writer. Mankiewicz was a notorious drinker and suffered a leg injury in a car crash, so Welles brought the screenwriter to the Kemper Campbell Ranch so that he could work on “Citizen Kane” without distractions. Mankiewicz spent two months at the dry ranch and wrote hundreds of draft pages of the “Kane” script for Welles to edit. Because of Mankiewicz’s ties to the ranch, it was of the upmost importance to Doyle to have the production film there. “The place hasn’t changed,” Doyle said. “You get over that hill into that ranch, and you’re in this tiny time capsule. Here you are where Herman Mankiewicz really sat, and stood and wrote this story.” In addition to Oldman as Mankiewicz, “Mank” also features Amanda Seyfried as actress Marion Davies, Lily Collins as Mankiewicz’s secretary Rita Alexander, Tuppence Middleton as wife Sara Mankiewicz, and “The Souvenir” breakout Tom Burke as Orson Welles. The film will also reunite Fincher with his longtime composers Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, who won the Oscar for their work on “The Social Network.” Reznor recently told Revolver that he would only being used period-authentic instruments to compose the “Mank” score. The film is set in the 1940s. “We’re not gonna be using the modular synthesizer on that one,” Reznor said. “We think we’re gonna be period authentic, so it just creates a new set of challenges.” Netflix has not announced a release date for “Mank” yet but the film is expected to be ready for a fall 2020 debut. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/12/david-fincher-mank-filming-score-halfway-done-1202199358/ publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 A biopic about a Hollywood writer set in the '40s?! Moviegoing teens must be dying to see this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules 59 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Extremely excited to hear what a period Reznor/Ross score sounds like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,491 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Fincher is one of my alltime favourite directors, although mostly because of the first four films. From ZODIAC onwards, I've been less enthused (some of his lush style often gets lost in oodles of clever dialogue). But GONE GIRL was great. Looking forward to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Oh man I think Zodiac is one of his best films. I have loved all his films except Benjamin Button and Gone Girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Gone Girl was great! I didn't like Dragon Tattoo much. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 That's one of my favorite ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Gone Girl is great. Dragon Tattoo is okay. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I'd rank them 1) Zodiac 2) Fight Club 3) Seven 4) The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo 5) The Game 6) Panic Room 7) The Social Network 8) Gone Girl 9) The Curious Case of Benjamin Button EDIT: Looks like I feel different now than I did almost 3 years ago On 3/4/2017 at 10:59 AM, Jay said: 1 Fight Club 2 Seven 3 Girl With The Dragon Tatoo 4 Zodiac 5 The Game 6 Panic Room 7 Social Network 8 Benjamin Button 9 Gone Girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,491 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 You forgot his best one -- ALIEN 3. #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 No I didn't. On Alien 3 he was a hired gun, forced to follow a script that had already been written, sets that had already been built, actors that had already been cast, etc. Everything after that he was in total control, and it doesn't make sense to rank this studio-led project among his auteur work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,491 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Nonsense. There's plenty of trademark Fincher that remains in ALIEN 3, despite the behind-the-scenes shenanigans, or even Fincher's apparent disownment. I'll rank them thusly: 1: ALIEN 3 2. Seven 3. Fight Club 4. Panic Room 5. The Game 6. Gone Girl 7. The Social Network 8. Benjamin Button 9. Dragon Tattoo 10. Zodiac Obviously not counting music videos, television work etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, Jay said: No I didn't. On Alien 3 he was a hired gun, forced to follow a script that had already been written, sets that had already been built, actors that had already been cast, etc. Everything after that he was in total control, and it doesn't make sense to rank this studio-led project among his auteur work I agree. Heck, it's why he disowned the movie. I wouldn't be proud of that one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1. Zodiac 2. Seven 3. Panic Room 4. The Game 5. The Social Network 6. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo 7. The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button 8. Fight Club 9. Gone Girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I'm not a big Fincher fan. I've seen a few of his movies, and would never seek something based on his name alone. I think his work is very cold and clinical, and while that's by design and effective, it's not something I have much interest in. 1) Gone Girl 2) The Social Network 3) Seven 4) The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo 5) Panic Room 6) Fight Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Overrated director. Another one-note specialist like Nolan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,491 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: I agree. Heck, it's why he disowned the movie. I wouldn't be proud of that one either. Seems like such an arbitrary thing to do. At which point does one decide if a film 'counts' or not? How does one measure the degree of total control? Do you also not count DUNE as a David Lynch film, for example? It makes absolutely no sense to me. He's credited as the director, and there are plenty of Fincher trademarks in the film -- from visual look (saturated, organic, "dirty" earth colours) to the way he weaves the fatalistic themes. In fact, it's DRENCHED in Fincher, regardless of everything that happened behind the scenes. So not only do I count it as a Fincher film, I count it as his BEST film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Oh snap, Del Toro's making a new movie!? 6 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Overrated director. Another one-note specialist like Nolan. I have to admit, the trailer for Tenet or whatever did look interesting when I saw it before Star Wars, especially that he got Goransson for this one. 4 minutes ago, Thor said: It's DRENCHED in Fincher, regardless of everything that happened behind the scenes Quality of the film put away from the conversation--though I do like it--I agree completely. 10 hours ago, Jules said: Extremely excited to hear what a period Reznor/Ross score sounds like Trent Reznor feels like a dude I should be totally into, but even on "classic" Nine Inch Nails albums I find his writing to be...lacking. Do you think they'll go period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,427 Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 Here's my rank: 1- Fight Club 2- Se7en 3- Gone Girl 4- Zodiac 5- Panic Room 6- Alien 3 7- Benjamin Button 8- The Social Network 9- Girl with the Dragon Tattoo Haven't watched The Game yet. As for Alien 3, it's not a perfect movie, far from it. But I like it as a fitting end to Ripley's story and as a Christian alegory. It's essentially a movie about Jesus Christ set on outer space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: 1. Zodiac 2. Seven 3. Panic Room 4. The Game 5. The Social Network 6. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo 7. The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button 8. Fight Club 9. Gone Girl Looks like you've changed your opinion in the past almost 3 years as well On 3/4/2017 at 12:13 PM, Koray Savas said: 1. Zodiac 2. The Game 3. Seven 4. The Social Network 5. The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button 6. Panic Room 7. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo 8. Fight Club 9. Gone Girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, Thor said: At which point does one decide if a film 'counts' or not? How does one measure the degree of total control? Well, apparently it was enough for Fincher to hate and disown it. So we know which one he considers his worst movie, but do we know which one he is the most proud of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Perhaps he is unable to judge the film objectively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I doubt that very much. He still hates the movie to this very day. I hate it too so I understand how he feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Really? You were pissed off that Newt and Hicks died? Ah of course you're a huge Aliens fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,491 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Well, apparently it was enough for Fincher to hate and disown it. Yes, I'm well aware, and totally disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Why do we unabashedly go against the opinions of some directors but totally go with the opinions of others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Thor said: You forgot his best one -- ALIEN 3. I agree with this actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,427 Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 It's the best Christian parable for nerds, alongside Harry Potter and the Matrix trilogy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Really? You were pissed off that Newt and Hicks died? No, I couldn't care less about things like that, but I know James Cameron thought that was a dumb thing to do. 2 hours ago, Nick Parker said: Why do we unabashedly go against the opinions of some directors but totally go with the opinions of others? What do you mean? In the case of Alien 3, I always hated it, not knowing Fincher hated it even more than me. It's not like I adjusted my opinion to Fincher's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 This would be my list: 1. Zodiac 2. Seven 3. Panic Room 4. Fight Club 5. Alien 3 6. The Social Network 7. The Game 8. Gone Girl 9. The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button 10. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Jay said: Looks like you've changed your opinion in the past almost 3 years as well Over time my appreciation for The Game has fallen and for Panic Room has risen. I feel like the latter holds up more on repeat viewings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Koray Savas said: I feel like the latter holds up more on repeat viewings. For me, Seven and Gone Girl are the only two Finchers that I enjoyed equally as good during a second run and maybe even more. Never liked The Game though. That one requires an almost inhuman suspension of disbelief. It therefore ends up somewhere at the bottom region of my list. BTW, coincidence or not, but Fincher doesn't like The Game either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Koray Savas said: Over time my appreciation for The Game has fallen and for Panic Room has risen. I feel like the latter holds up more on repeat viewings. It is a straightforward thriller and doesn't pretend to be anything profound. Nothing wrong with that and exactly the reason why it ranks so highly on my list. Now where's Blu-ray? Or, better yet, UHD? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,491 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: BTW, coincidence or not, but Fincher doesn't like The Game either. Danny Elfman doesn't like 90% of his own music either. It really doesn't matter what the creators think of their work; it has no bearing on my own evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Of course it doesn't matter, it's about what you like. I just find amusing that Fincher always agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 7 hours ago, crocodile said: It is a straightforward thriller and doesn't pretend to be anything profound. Nothing wrong with that and exactly the reason why it ranks so highly on my list. Now where's Blu-ray? Or, better yet, UHD? Karol Indeed. A blu-ray was announced by Twilight Time years ago. Then a 4K edition was announced. Still nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1. Zodiac 2. Seven 3. Fight Club 4. Gone Girl 5. Panic Room 6. The Game 7. Alien³ 8. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo 9. The Social Network 10. The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button 11 hours ago, Alexcremers said: BTW, coincidence or not, but Fincher doesn't like The Game either. Where did he say that? 1 hour ago, Koray Savas said: Indeed. A blu-ray was announced by Twilight Time years ago. Then a 4K edition was announced. Still nothing! Shame. We missed out on an isolated score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Corellian2019 said: Where did he say that? It's mentioned on the wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(1997_film) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 https://www.indiewire.com/2014/09/david-fincher-says-he-shouldnt-have-directed-the-game-dislikes-superhero-movies-talks-crazy-20000-leagues-272234/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jay said: https://www.indiewire.com/2014/09/david-fincher-says-he-shouldnt-have-directed-the-game-dislikes-superhero-movies-talks-crazy-20000-leagues-272234/ Dislikes The Game? Alex is right again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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