Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Starship Troopers just came to mind, which had a very disappointing and short selection for the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Hook? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Wow, that's a big question, with so many expanded releases having come out this decade! Here's a list that might help people remember most of what came out, though it doesn't include 2010 at all, and I still haven't caught up with most 2017-2019 titles, unfortunately https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20226-the-specialty-film-score-label-catalog-of-new-titles/ Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Prisioner of Azkaban, Empire of the Sun, A.I. and The Lost World. Jurassic Shark and Amer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I think the #1 answer has to be DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE The OST album was this weird score/song/classical music hybrid with less than 30 minutes of score, most of which wasn't heard in the film. The LLL 2CD set is this glorious 2 hour main program with another almost 40 minutes of bonus tracks and finally reveals what Kamen really got up to with that score. It's fantastic! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 For JG: The Ghost and the Darkness Star Trek V The Shadow Explorers Chain Reaction Executive Decision Air Force One Amer and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, publicist said: For JG: The Ghost and the Darkness Star Trek V The Shadow Explorers Chain Reaction Executive Decision Air Force One First Knight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Right. The great purge of lackluster Jerry titles that people were lukewarm about because of shitty 30-minute releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I think next up would be some John Williams expansions that come to mind A.I. Artificial Intelligence added so much crucial music that wasn't on the OST, like the many cues that setup the Blue Fairy theme before it pays off at the end, and a much longer time spent in the first act at the Swinton household really helps set up everything that happens at the end of the score Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone certainly had a lengthy OST, but when you factor in how it was a hybrid of concert arrangement and film cues, when you separate them out you end up with a nice, lengthy film score presentation with so much more going on than you could hear on the OST album, like a lot more Voldemort theme and a lot of nice underscore instead of just set pieces, plus the entire Children's Suite is so nicely listened to as its own little mini-album as a bonus instead of chopped up and mixed between random film cues. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets had a lengthy OST too, but I'd say the wrong cues were chosen to represent the full score on it. The amazing Chamber theme only appears in the concert arrangement on the album, when the film score features fantastic develops of it through and not a single one of those cues made the OST, nor did some other cues of completely original material, with the OST instead sometimes featuring cues that straight-up reprised HPSS arrangements for some reason. The new main program is just so much more satisfying. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban again had a pretty lengthy OST, not as long as the others if you factor out the repeated material at the end, and there is just such a variety of different ideas that no 75 minute presentation could ever hope to cover them all. The OST doesn't include some of the most memorable aspects of the whole score at all, like the harpichord for Peter Pettigrew, or Sirius's rescue at the end. The expanded release really makes all the work JW did for this film shine brightly Fargo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Most of the time, I'm grateful for the additional music but don't find the albums to be an improvement on the OST. Looking at OSTs that I've always found lackluster for one reason or another, I found improvement in Elfman's Batman Returns and Williams' The Lost World. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 I wonder what expansion @Thor will highlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I wonder what expansion @Thor will highlight. I considered replying with 'None' (which is the truth!), but then that would have been too obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Jay said: I think the #1 answer has to be DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE The OST album was this weird score/song/classical music hybrid with less than 30 minutes of score, most of which wasn't heard in the film. The LLL 2CD set is this glorious 2 hour main program with another almost 40 minutes of bonus tracks and finally reveals what Kamen really got up to with that score. It's fantastic! Good point. I own the original album and it's a weird coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Too many to count. Off the top of my head: The Lost World Harry Potter 1-3 Hook Home Alone The Ghost and the Darkness The Haunting Apollo 13 Star Trek III The Lion King Starship Troopers Spartacus Ben-Hur The Ten Commandments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The Lost World Star Trek 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Batman Returns The Lost World Star Trek III Star Trek V Star Trek: Generations Star Trek: First Contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Alien³ RoboCop 2 Minority Report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The Pagemaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 8:18 PM, A. A. Ron said: Home Alone Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Close Encounters of the Third Kind (in any case for sound, but especially skipping the two earlier CD reissues and looking only at the 1977 Arista to judge by) Towering Inferno (Williams) (ditto) Dracula (Williams) Star Trek: The Motion Picture (again in context against the OST) Poltergeist (Goldsmith) Marnie (Herrmann) Obsession (Herrmann) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Of more recent releases, Dracula really was elevated and revealed by the expansion The Five Tones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, The Five Tones said: Dracula (Williams) An obvious candidate! The Five Tones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Although not the best of the decade, Star Trek Into Darkness was a great improvement as it presented a more accurate representation of the musical narrative than the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The Lost World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Did the recent Stargate have a lot of unreleased music? Seems like a big improvement over the previous release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The main program of the LLL album is about 80 minutes, and the OST was 63 minutes, so roughly 17 minutes longer, though throughout the main program there are the right film takes of cues where the OST used alternates. There is also additional alternate takes in the bonus track section, along with all the OST tracks that had unique takes. In between the OST and this LLL expansion, of course, was the 73 minute Varese expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 the film versions of cues sound cooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 In which way do they sound cooler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 In that way. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 It's an extremely long - and very good - list, but at the very top would be SUPERMAN, STAR TREK V, and DRACULA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The extra choir in some of the new Stargate tracks is just really awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Arpy said: Although not the best of the decade, Star Trek Into Darkness was a great improvement as it presented a more accurate representation of the musical narrative than the OST. I was all in on Star Trek 2009 and even got the deluxe, but haven't found my way into the two sequel scores yet (and the films and fan reception of kept me at a distance). Any preference for one over the other, and reasons or highlights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I honestly think both Into Darkness and Beyond are stronger, more well-rounded scores than ST09, with better themes. For Into Darkness, check out London Calling and Ship to Ship from the OST album, and Ode To Harrison and Ode To Vengeance available only on the expanded album For Beyond, check out Night On The Yorktown and Crash Decisions from the OST album, and Jaylah's Theme and Yorktown Theme available only on the expanded album The Five Tones and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The Lost World and An American Tail are the top-tiers as far as I can recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Awesome, thanks for the suggestions Jay (and Arpy)... just ordered both ST sequels from VS Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbeck 123 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Jaws must be mentioned. The previous MCA anniversary edition was unlistenable due to its muffled sound. The Intrada Matessino 2.015 remaster really rescued this score. Psycho II was a grail and the expanded is so much better with all the wonderful tracks that were left off the 30 min. album. The Five Tones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 The Psycho II OST is more digestible in one sitting than the exhaustive Intrada. I'm not a fan of itty bitty tracks stacked together, instead I prefer the composer going to some effort to albumise the score if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Þekþiþm said: The Psycho II OST is more digestible in one sitting than the exhaustive Intrada. I'm not a fan of itty bitty tracks stacked together, instead I prefer the composer going to some effort to albumise the score if necessary. So you’re saying you don’t like John Powell’s insane 50-track OSTs for the Ice Age films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 That's only annoying if you're listening on YT when you have to wait for each video to load up the next cue. Several of those album cues that fade into each other are actually one cue that had to be cut up due to choir reuse fees or something like that. That's a thing of the past and apparently, Powell doesn't have to deal with that anymore in his albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Jay said: I honestly think both Into Darkness and Beyond are stronger, more well-rounded scores than ST09, with better themes. I also completely randomly just watched the Short Treks directed by Giacchino (and also just realized there were new episodes) and it was delightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Fargo said: So you’re saying you don’t like John Powell’s insane 50-track OSTs for the Ice Age films? Just looked that up. What the heck?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 10 that stick out the most: Minority Report Star Trek V The Lion King Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Apollo 13 A.I. Artificial Intelligence Dracula Die Hard 2 Batman Returns The Lost World: Jurassic Park Plus almost anything by Jerry Goldsmith. There's probably much more. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 TLW is one that sticks out for me. Its OST wasn't bad - there are other expansions that have saved scores from much worse treatment - but the wealth of great previously unreleased music keeps bringing me back to that one in particular. Other contenders for me would be POA and Superman, the former for reasons similar to TLW and the latter for the quantum leap in sound quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Quantum leap actually means a very small step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Apollo 13 is a prime candidate as well, considering that for years the official OST was that awful one with 60s songs and fucking dialogue from the movie, indefensible for such a classic, beloved score. For 24 years Horner fans had to be happy with the FYC and bootlegs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, Datameister said: TLW is one that sticks out for me. Its OST wasn't bad - there are other expansions that have saved scores from much worse treatment - but the wealth of great previously unreleased music keeps bringing me back to that one in particular. My only issue with the OST was putting The Stegosaurus near the end. The rest of the OST not being in chronological otherwise played fine, with that one odd exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Quantum leap actually means a very small step. Scale is relative. For the electron, making that jump between energy levels is pretty huge. And more importantly, there's no "in between" state, which is why the phrase is often used to refer to abrupt or extreme changes. Objects on a macroscopic scale don't literally exhibit this behavior, so you'll have to forgive me for using a much smaller metaphor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Though i find most C&C releases too complete i'm pretty grateful for the gaping holes a lot of these releases did fill. Though i'd probably single out 'The Shadow' by a small margin. That score is so much fun and the old release was so half-assed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: Apollo 13 is a prime candidate as well, considering that for years the official OST was that awful one with 60s songs and fucking dialogue from the movie, indefensible for such a classic, beloved score. For 24 years Horner fans had to be happy with the FYC and bootlegs. I like the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I will ignore releases that were of minor significance since they just expand upon a former expansion that was created before 2010, like for example Star Trek: The Motion Picture or Superman: The Movie. ---Goldsmith--- Air Force One Chain Reaction Executive Decision Explorers First Knight The Ghost and the Darkness The Haunting The Shadow Small Soldiers Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Star Trek: Insurrection Star Trek Nemesis ---John Williams--- A.I. Artificial Intelligence Dracula The Philosopher's Stone The Prisoner of Azkaban The Lost World Minority Report Rosewood Williams had less insufficient albums than Goldsmith, so that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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