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Hi everyone! Today we have a short cue for Dumbledore's Escape (cue 28), as well as one of the last Umbridge cues in the movie, Cue No. 29: Umbridge Takes Over. Hope you enjoy!
 

@Pieter Boelen, that's a great suggestion! We'll add that to the Soundtrack CD Presentation page this week. Thanks for all your interest!

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Hi all! We are very excited to present a composition project that has been a long time in the making. We have created the Potter Scoring Project, where we constructed a score for Harry Potter and the

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Due to some technical difficulties and scheduling conflicts, we will be posting the end credits this Wednesday, March 24th. Thank you for your patience and support! In the following Sundays, we wil

@WampaRat Thank you so much for your comment! It means a lot to us to hear that and we're so glad to know your impressions so far! We hope you'll like the ending, and let us know what you think.

Also, today's the day! We get to break into the Ministry of Magic and begin the finale of the movie! Enjoy Cue No. 33: The Department of Mysteries.

BP

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I love the newest cue! My only issue is the repeat of "Window To The Past" when Sirius dies honestly just feels too happy, and kind of lacks the emotional impact. I get it's supposed to contrast from when Sirius escaped (arguably when he was happiest), but I think at the least a new / darker key signature for the theme would have really helped push the trauma and sadness Harry feels. 

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Wow, the death of Sirius hurt! I loved how the Window to the Past theme started slow, as Harry struggled to process, and then got louder and faster as Harry was more filled with grief and rage. So much better than the original!

 

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Good to hear from you both again! We're glad to hear you've liked the cue.

@superultramegaa Thanks for the feedback on Window to the Past. In terms of the arrangement used here, recalling the letter to Sirius in cue 15 was more at the forefront of our minds, but we definitely wanted to capture the emotions from Prisoner of Azkaban as well. It also connects us to the fact that Harry's still only 15 and needing that connection he discovered when Sirius escaped. But we also see your point about key signature and appreciate the input. It would be an interesting alternate arrangement!

MS

Thank you @Demosthenes for your comment, it was definitely a balance pacing this as it goes so quickly. We're glad you like it - with this project being an "alternate universe" version of the score, we purposely didn't base it off anything Hooper wrote, and always made sure we steered towards what JW might have done. We hope he'd approve!

BP

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I really enjoyed it as well! So much more fun and interesting uses of themes than the original. Not sure how I feel about HP4, because of the aesthetics of the cheaper instruments, but composition-wise it was well done, and I loved the inclusion of the old themes.

 

HP5 however, is basically what I always wanted from that movie's score! With the numerous callbacks to POA's score, (and of course the first 2 movies' motifs) with new, distinct, and well thought-out themes that will carry through the dark half of the series. 

 

Your team did a great job at capturing the Williams sound and magic. 

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Thank you to all three of you! We've certainly expressed this in other responses to comments, but it means the world to us to see that this project has become more than our private hobby! The full album is coming, we promise! In the coming weeks after the end credits are out, we're going to get right on it.

It was a lot of work switching DAWs and getting new sample libraries for OOTP, but we wanted to do JW's material justice and had a lot of fun expanding from Goblet of Fire. We are so glad to hear that you all have enjoyed it and extend our sincerest thanks for your compliments!

BP

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On 1/21/2021 at 6:08 PM, Pieter Boelen said:

Really wished one day this music could be performed by a proper, full orchestra; and really do it justice.

 

Oh god yes. That would be amazing, and I have a feeling that not a lot of people would notice it's not written by good ol' JW, original themes flow so well into the ones Williams wrote, and vice versa. 

 

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Oooh. Looking forward to the ost arraignment:) While I enjoyed listening to the complete score, I would definitely listen to your curated presentation of the material more frequently. 
 

This all must take a obscene amount of time on top of your full time job and other obligations. I hope this growing body of work bares a lot of fruit and success for you soon! Have you shared this with other Harry Potter fan outlets and such? Im sure fans would love to hear this as well.

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Thanks @WampaRat! We're so excited to see enthusiasm around the post-score releases - we're having fun putting them together, so we're glad you enjoy them too. Your appreciative words mean a lot to us!

In terms of fan sites, we haven't shared it much besides here because of not wanting to get sued... but we did see that @Pieter Boelen mentioned it on youtube a couple months ago, and are thrilled to see it being discussed in a couple places! 

 

 

 

And finally, the end credits are here!! It almost broke my poor laptop, but it hopefully stands as a fitting wrap-up to the giant last half of the film. I also linked the audio file for the end credits in case anyone wants listen that way. We truly appreciate everyone's support and comments and are so happy to share this with you all today! 
Cue No. 38: End Credits

 

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Great work! I hadn't been keeping up since the early cues of OoTP from last year, but I took the time to catch up the other day and just finished your end credits. As an interpretive project (in terms of capturing Williams' style), it's a fantastic piece of work, and the creativity involved is quite breath-taking in terms of where you take existing motifs, and your own new ones. Listening to the end credits, the part that just 'felt' most like Williams to me was at the transition into Buckbeak's flight at 7:30, hit the nail right on the head. I suspect it's those magical textures that surround the melody. 

Anyway, again huge congratulations. Apologies (as I can guess you've been asked these questions many times, I tried to look through the recent comments but with the sheer volume of feedback you've gotten it would take ages!), but I have a couple of questions if you'd be obliged to answer.

Firstly, of course, are you thinking of moving on to the Half-Blood Prince for your next project?
And secondly, hearing these cues I'm thinking all the time what they would sound like with an orchestra, particularly in places that I mentioned where you've hit Williams' style perfectly, with the sound an orchestra brings they'd sound exquisite. I'm wondering if you've ever considered setting up a patreon or gofundme to raise funds for investigating that, or is it just something you're not interested in doing?
Again, endless praise for where this project went! 

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@FrankFWJH Wow, thank you so much! We're so glad to hear you enjoyed OOTP, and it's really exciting to see that people are going through the whole score now that it's done. Our sincerest thanks for your compliments. Getting the interpretive stamp of approval from JWFanners is all we could have hoped for when this project was just a pipe dream.

In terms of Half-Blood Prince..... 
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And regarding crowdfunding, it’s not been on our radar, but if there's interest, we would love to venture out into that realm. Getting cues recorded by a live orchestra is the dream! Due to costs (and likely a copyright war with WB), it’s probably not going to happen anytime soon.

Huge thanks for your amazing support and we're excited for more Ravendor Potter scoring coming up!

MS & BP

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On 3/26/2021 at 6:56 PM, Ravendor Studios said:

In terms of Half-Blood Prince..... 
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My heart skipped. Can't wait for the full album version of OOTP, and for whatever you have in store for us! Great, great work!

On 3/26/2021 at 8:56 PM, bollemanneke said:

I honestly can't see an orchestra recording any of this music. The copyright hurdles seem to be unimaginable to me.

 

Same here, unfortunately. They could probably only record their fully original themes (which would be really cool nonetheless!)

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On 3/26/2021 at 5:56 PM, Ravendor Studios said:

@FrankFWJH Wow, thank you so much! We're so glad to hear you enjoyed OOTP, and it's really exciting to see that people are going through the whole score now that it's done. Our sincerest thanks for your compliments. Getting the interpretive stamp of approval from JWFanners is all we could have hoped for when this project was just a pipe dream.

In terms of Half-Blood Prince..... 
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:) 


And regarding crowdfunding, it’s not been on our radar, but if there's interest, we would love to venture out into that realm. Getting cues recorded by a live orchestra is the dream! Due to costs (and likely a copyright war with WB), it’s probably not going to happen anytime soon.

Huge thanks for your amazing support and we're excited for more Ravendor Potter scoring coming up!

MS & BP

You're very welcome! 

And thanks for answering those, I'm really looking forward to see what you have in store going forward. Good luck!

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@WampaRat Thank you!! The sequel OSTs were definitely on my mind when assembling this, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. It definitely helped with the pacing of the album, balancing between lighter/darker/emotional and including the most important content.

 

Today we've posted some temp score demos of alternate ideas that came up along the way! https://sites.google.com/view/ravendor/extras/temps-and-demos

MS

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@RomanticStrings thanks for your comment! So funny you said that. The other day I was thinking about *SPOILER* Dobby's death too. Right now, it's in the daydream phase since Hallows is so far away but I'm so excited that other people are interested in it too. Using the second half of the theme from COS came to mind but I did notice that Desplat kind of referenced the idea as well, and I'd rather not rip him off... but we'll see. 

 

Thank you for noticing the dies irae in Luna and the feast - I always have so much fun throwing those in.

 

BP

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18 minutes ago, Potter Scoring Project said:

Hi everyone! With HBP beginning one week from today, we updated "Process of the Project" and thought we'd share a little statement about the score on the website. Click here to see it and hope you'll enjoy! 

 

These are such a joy to go through. I admire all of the hard work and effort that you all have been putting behind these. Thanks so much for your contributions to the community. So glad you are tackling HBP. 

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2 hours ago, superultramegaa said:

It'll be hard to top Desplat's blending of his theme for Ron, Harry, and Hermione with Williams' Dobby theme, but I'm sure they'll figure something out.

 

Would love to know whether that was intentional or not. I still remember freaking out at that listening to the soundtrack for the first time and then having second thoughts once I realized that Dobby-esque figure is just part of the Obliviate/trio theme. 

 

I also have to think it's much more likely coincidence since if he had the thought to do that on purpose, why would he also write a whole other theme for Dobby. But it's good happenstance. 

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5 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

I also have to think it's much more likely coincidence since if he had the thought to do that on purpose, why would he also write a whole other theme for Dobby. But it's good happenstance. 

 

I would agree, but the last minute has several statements that sound almost exactly like a sad version of the initial phrase of Williams' theme. 

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As a sometimes composer, taking a look at pieces I've written several years past, I can say that most of the time I have no idea what I was thinking. Though, other times, I can remember precisely where I was and how I felt when I wrote specific pieces or moments...

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