Jay 37,281 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 If this is Henry Jackman's actual instagram account and not some fan page, then it seems he's announcing that he's replaced Balfe? https://www.instagram.com/p/CH7adnbBrOH/ Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Breaking news: Henry Jackman has been replaced by Ramin Djawadi! Jay and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Jay and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 They should fire Balfe, Jackman, Djawadi, etc., and replace it with David Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I like Arnold's scores for spy thrillers, which this movie seems to be. Niktob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 If the producers want that sound, even Balfe is able to supply it, Jackman even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Yeah, but I believe that an Arnold spy score is not what they're looking for. They hired Balfe because they wanted a Remote Control-like spy score, similar to The Winter Soldier and Fallout. Heck, they probably temped the whole movie with Fallout, and when they saw that Desplat wouldn't be able to provide that sound, they went after the Fallout composer instead. But if the rumour is true, I don't know why they didn't stick with Balfe and hired Jackman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 That doesn’t seem like a legit account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 “I’m Henry Jackman a music producer” lmao. Definitely fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Jay said: If this is Henry Jackman's actual instagram account and not some fan page, then it seems he's announcing that he's replaced Balfe? https://www.instagram.com/p/CH7adnbBrOH/ Seems legit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 But why someone would create a fake account of Henry Jackman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: But why someone would create a fake account of Henry Jackman? You haven’t noticed how weird film score fans can be? MikeH, Edmilson and mrbellamy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 He's as lousy at writing as he is at writing music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: You haven’t noticed how weird film score fans can be? I'll create a fake John Williams account and post that I'm already working on Star Wars Episode X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I'll create a fake John Williams account and post that I'm already working on Star Wars Episode X Nobody will believe that JW has such an account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Nobot will believe that JW has such an account. Jay would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 17 hours ago, Edmilson said: they probably temped the whole movie with Fallout, and when they saw that Desplat wouldn't be able to provide that sound I'd argue Desplat is able to provide any style, really. IMHO it's rather that he has no interest in providing that specific sound, which I can understand. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 First clip with Balfe's score: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Sounds like placeholder music. I may not particularly be fond of the Fallout score, but a similar set piece in that was scored much more efficiently. Are we sure this isn't just the temp still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 May? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: May? No. I'm pretty sure the clip said July. July 9. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 Balfe score in this clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Sounds exactly like what I'd expect.... ...so naturally, the general public are going to think it's the greatest thing ever. Give me some proper music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 A lot better than the previous clip, but it still can't help but feel like Fallout/BBFL once more. The man really needs to vary his workload so that he actually doesn't run on auto pilot for the rest of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I have the impression that I'm going to prefer Fallout's score to Black Widow's once I listen to the latter. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Album details: 1. Natasha’s Lullaby (3:24) 2. Latrodectus (2:40) 3. Fireflies (3:13) 4. The Pursuit (2:53) 5. The First Bite Is the Deepest (3:05) 6. Last Glimmer (4:19) 7. Dreykov (3:34) 8. You Don’t Know Me (2:01) 9. Yelena Belova (3:36) 10. From the Shadows (3:44) 11. Hand in Hand (2:46) 12. Blood Ties (2:54) 13. Whirlwind (3:28) 14. Arise (2:13) 15. Natasha’s Fragments (1:55) 16. A Sister Says Goodbye (4:14) 17. I Can’t Save Us (1:51) 18. Red Rising (3:57) 19. The Betrayed (5:38) 20. The Descent (2:05) 21. Faces to the Sun (1:51) 22. Natasha Soars (2:19) 23. Last Love (1:59) 24. Into the Past (4:55) 25. Broken Free (3:09) 26. A Calling (2:10) http://filmmusicreporter.com/2021/07/05/black-widow-soundtrack-album-details/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Saw the movie. Score is nothing special. Not bad, not good, pretty average. Typical RC bravado. At least he didn't reused whole track ideas from Modern Warfare 2 like in Bad Boys For Life. Nice use of choir and one little reference to Silvestri's Avengers theme in the end. That's all. Enjoyed the movie tho. I'm thinking that separate listening experience will improve my opinion but I'll need to wait for score release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 12:10 AM, HunterTech said: A lot better than the previous clip, but it still can't help but feel like Fallout/BBFL once more. The man really needs to vary his workload so that he actually doesn't run on auto pilot for the rest of his career. He's done it so far with great success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Nothing much to remember. It works well with the movie although I would have a more clear idea when I'll listen to the album. There's just the beginning of the end credits that kept my attention but I don't remember this part to be featured elsewhere in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I'm listening to the OST right now. Track 2 is a mix between Inception's BAAAUNNNS with some action music John Powell-style. Overall, it's okay so far, though I still think Desplart could've written a more interesting score. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Why do you keep doing this to yourself?!? A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 The music has a certain 'fun' aspect to it that I do appreciate, even if its not what I expected actionwise. I guess I am just a sucker for that Soviet chorus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 It's pretty generic so far, with a lot of RC-zisms that I've come to expect from these scores, but... Well, track 13 is a bit more fun than the other action cues, with a cool mix between trumpets and synth that reminded me of Desplat's Valerian. If they did used Valerian as temp track, it's even more weird why they fired Desplat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,643 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Sounded too much like the temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 11/23/2020 at 6:29 PM, Lord Zimmer said: Seems legit.... Someone should teach Mr. Jackman the basic comma rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I've started listening to OST and it's already more interesting than it was in the movie because there are lyrics in Russian. And since I'm from Russia, it's only doubles the coolness of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 What? Did they remove the lyrics in the movie? Or was the mixing so bad they were inaudible? I do wish more tracks used the synthy aspect like in Whirlwind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, MedigoScan said: What? Did they remove the lyrics in the movie? Or was the mixing so bad they were inaudible? I do wish more tracks used the synthy aspect like in Whirlwind. Seems like they removed it or I haven't simply noticed them. Mixing is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just finnished to listen to it and I really liked it. Unlike many here I don't mind Balfe's loud orchestra (at least not always). This score sounds like a crossover of His Dark Materials and Fallout which are the two Balfe's score that I actually find good. Thought that the Russian part were quiet nice so where the action cues. However I don't think that Desplat would have done a much better score. His action scores are usually quiet disappointing (apart from Godzilla) JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 342 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 This score is good. That's all. The choir stuff is okay. The action stuff is actually very interesting with full use of woodwinds and intriguing rhythms and the much-vaunted 118 player orchestra. No silly digital compression here with the brass. Tracks like Whirwind are fascinating. As someone already pointed out, it does sound a lot like Desplat's Valerian, and I have to echo that call - if this is what they wanted and if this is the range they work with, why not just stick with Desplat especially as a lot of the synth backing is very very similar to his stuff. Anyways, a good effort by Balfe but one has to ask why not go with Desplat who would have brought a much more refined approach to the choir stuff at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, thestat said: This score is good. That's all. The choir stuff is okay. The action stuff is actually very interesting with full use of woodwinds and intriguing rhythms and the much-vaunted 118 player orchestra. No silly digital compression here with the brass. Tracks like Whirwind are fascinating. As someone already pointed out, it does sound a lot like Desplat's Valerian, and I have to echo that call - if this is what they wanted and if this is the range they work with, why not just stick with Desplat especially as a lot of the synth backing is very very similar to his stuff. Anyways, a good effort by Balfe but one has to ask why not go with Desplat who would have brought a much more refined approach to the choir stuff at the very least. I think it is a overall good score. I actually think the non-action stuff are my favorite. But I do like "Whirlwind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 I'm seeing this film in a couple hours; If there's a particular scene where I should pay attention to see if there is Russian choir or not, let me know and I'll do my best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 12:11 PM, Jay said: I'm seeing this film in a couple hours; If there's a particular scene where I should pay attention to see if there is Russian choir or not, let me know and I'll do my best I definitely noticed the choir in the scene when Natasha fought all the widows. As regards the movie itself, I don't really post movie/TV opinions on the forum anymore but I will relate this story of seeing the movie in the theater yesterday: Spoiler for the post-credits and apologies for the impolite language Spoiler As I was leaving, I walked in front of a group of people that were still in their seats. A man was explaining to his friends the significance of the post-credits scene in the current MCU storylines. They had clearly watched The Falcon and The Winter Soldier because he was reminding them who Julia Louis-Dreyfus is and he said, "Remember? She was that bitch who was talkin' to the retarded Captain America." Now that is the glory of the theatrical experience. Taikomochi, Smeltington and Stark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,643 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I noticed choir in a few more places as well, underscoring Taskmaster (especially, I think, during the motorcycle/car chase). It did seem a bit dialed down, or maybe the sound effects just won out over it. Haven’t listened to the score separately at any point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 17 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I definitely noticed the choir in the scene when Natasha fought all the widows. Did she kill all their husbands first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 310 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I liked this score more than I expected, Lorne had some fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 I noticed choir in four scenes in the film, but I foolishly didn't hop on to post what they were right after I saw it, and now I don't remember which scenes they were lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,643 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I got the D+ access so I could theoretically blip through it a second time if it’s an urgent matter. I recall them all being related either to action scenes or Taskmaster scenes. Haven’t listened to the score separately yet to see if that jives with Balfe’s vision. Seems like an awful lot of scrutiny for what sounded like a serviceable action score, though! That’s not a diss, btw - servicing the film is the score’s job. Don’t know if it’s a needle drop or part of the score, but that blast of Silvestri’s Avengers score at the end felt pretty out of place in the movie, especially sandwiched between Natasha’s goodbye and the nice little firefly coda moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 I thought the score in the film was really quite bad. Not only did it sound like nothing I'd have an interest in listening to outside of the film, often it felt like the wrong choice for the scenes in question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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