Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Bilbo and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toothless 963 Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 Oh ffs! So now we’re stuck with historical dramas or weird Oscar worthy gigs for Desplat? I know he’s not the best at superhero movies but I like his voicing... Balfe... I don’t like people bashing. They all have their styles and that’s ok. But I just find his style to be boring. Would’ve even have liked to get Tyler instead of balfe. If you ask me, the ideal composer for this would have been JNH with a mix of Red Sparow and I’m legend. Will, Evanus, Edmilson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Damn. I was quite looking forward to what Desplat would bring to a Marvel film. Not a fan of Balfe. Oh well. Just another generic score in the generic Marvel Soundtrack Universe (with only a few exceptions) Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules 59 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I'm having a hard time holding myself back here. Fuck. I am absolutely certain Desplat's Rogue One score would have been much better than Giacchino's mess (though I understand that replacement may have been for actual scheduling reasons), and I'm quite certain a BW score by him would be much better than something Balfe could cook up. I actually think Fallout is pretty decent, but Marvel are clearly going all in on the Mission Impossible copy here. Was hoping this movie might have a somewhat unique identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 989 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Hybrid from http://www.hans-zimmer.com/ on the matter: Quote Score is recorded already. Quote No idea but he was on it for a bit, I think. So yeah, Desplat has seemingly been off it for quite a bit now. I wonder if it was even a mistake that his name ended up on the advertising. Then again, "for a bit" could just mean he took the entirety of last month to do it, knowing how quick he is. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,438 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 We already had nothing to look forward to, and then this happens. BLARG!! Will and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I guess Hollywood considers film scores non-essential. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, HunterTech said: Hybrid from http://www.hans-zimmer.com/ on the matter: So yeah, Desplat has seemingly been off it for quite a bit now. I wonder if it was even a mistake that his name ended up on the advertising. Then again, "for a bit" could just mean he took the entirety of last month to do it, knowing how quick he is. So that means the score was probably recorded before all the worldwide lockdowns, which means Balfe probably used an orchestra, instead of the "Lorne was hired to do a synth only score because the pandemic prevents scoring sessions to take place" theory we came up with. I guess maybe someone at Marvel fell in love with Fallout being used at the temp track, and when Desplat came up with something entirely different, they decided to get the Fallout composer instead. I actually think Fallout is a decent score, I certainly don't hate it. But, if that was the truth, is a little sad that this score is becoming so beloved amongst Hollywood producers, because it is basically The Dark Knight Rises with the M: I theme and some bongos. Yavar Moradi and Jules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 989 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I actually think Fallout is a decent score, I certainly don't hate it. But, if that was the truth, is a little sad that this score is becoming so beloved amongst Hollywood producers, because it is basically The Dark Knight Rises with the M: I theme and some bongos. ^^^^^^ There's a reason I was fine with Zimmer getting the Bond gig, since I knew he wouldn't rehash so blatantly like Lorne recently has. People are allowed to like it, but it really pisses me off that out of everything recently, that is what apparently resonated with people the most. Really doesn't leave me with a good impression for the future of Hollywood scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt C 452 Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 You'd figure with Silvestri getting kudos for Avengers Endgame would be a signal that Hollywood embraced more traditional orchestral scoring again. Sigh. Edmilson, TSMefford, Evanus and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, Matt C said: You'd figure with Silvestri getting kudos for Avengers Endgame would be a signal that Hollywood embraced more traditional orchestral scoring again. Sigh. There's probably a faction of puhdoosahs in Hollywood who couldn't stand Silvestri's Avengers scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Þekþiþm said: There's probably a faction of puhdoosahs in Hollywood who couldn't stand Silvestri's Avengers scores. 'Get that orchestra shit outta here, clashin n' bashin, flutes n' shit'. bollemanneke and Demondm810 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Clearly the 3 new fully orchestral Star Wars scores didn't resonate with producers, either. It seems like orchestral scores are increasingly viewed as old fashioned, and very expensive (especially when recorded in LA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I don't think this is about people disliking Silvestri's and Williams' scores. I guess it's more about the movies themselves. Avengers was a big, sprawling epic, so it demanded a more old fashioned, traditional score. Black Widow, on the other hand, seems to be more of a spy thriller, and music for these kinds of movies these days is more Bourne and Fallout and less David Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I was really banking on hearing the MCU's first chamber score so there goes that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 He could have done some nice Russian and Hungarian touches... ah, wait, I already got those from him in Grand Budapest. He'd have been directed to be bland and unnoticeable anyway. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bollemanneke 3,342 Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 13 hours ago, Matt C said: You'd figure with Silvestri getting kudos for Avengers Endgame would be a signal that Hollywood embraced more traditional orchestral scoring again. Sigh. Silvestri's Avengers scores are equally boring. crumbs, The Illustrious Jerry, gkgyver and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Silvestri's Avengers scores are equally boring. Unspeakably so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Silvestri's Avengers scores are equally boring. I disagree, because... Wait, what day is today? Oh, yeah, April's Fools. Great, carry on. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I was not joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Boll hates nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 No, but I get the feeling that some here are determined to like his scores just because he wrote them. The theme is great, I'll admit that, but other than that? Generic unmemorable action cue after action cue. gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 6 hours ago, bollemanneke said: No, but I get the feeling that some here are determined to like his scores just because he wrote them. The theme is great, I'll admit that, but other than that? Generic unmemorable action cue after action cue. Hey those were good! Someone in some comments section said this: "Clearly they decided it was too insensitive to have someone with Splat in their name score a Black Widow movie after the events of Endgame." Edmilson and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules 59 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I was hoping for something like Red Sparrow - JNH, which is basically a Black Widow movie itself. Orchestral cues sort of bookending, but lots of mildly interesting thriller textures in there as well. I think Desplat would knock something like that out of the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 6 hours ago, bollemanneke said: No, but I get the feeling that some here are determined to like his scores just because he wrote them. The theme is great, I'll admit that, but other than that? Generic unmemorable action cue after action cue. I have to disagree. None of the Silvestri Marvel scores are brilliant or anything, but it's a little reductive to say they're just generic action music. There's a whole architecture of themes supporting the narrative throughout the four movies: -The Avengers theme -Thanos has two themes, both great and adequate to the character -Infinity Stones theme -Captain America's theme -Steve and Peggy -Tony and Pepper -Sacrifice theme -Endgame theme Sure, there's a lot of boring, brooding suspense music in all of the scores. But there's also some great individual highlights and touching emotional music, mainly on Endgame and The First Avenger. Also, the action music may not be the most outstanding thing in the world, but Forge on Infinity War and Portals on Endgame were great cinematic moments on film and uplifting tracks to listen outside of it. Main on Ends from Endgame was my favorite film music composition from last year. bollemanneke and Evanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jules said: I was hoping for something like Red Sparrow - JNH, which is basically a Black Widow movie itself. Orchestral cues sort of bookending, but lots of mildly interesting thriller textures in there as well. I think Desplat would knock something like that out of the park. I guess they felt Desplat was too arty, weird and European. Paradoxically, Balfe bases his scores on Zimmer's symphonic Euro pop style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quppa 117 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 It was a surprising assignment from the beginning, but I'm still extremely disappointed by this. Can Zimmer be replaced on Bond as recompense? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Quppa said: It was a surprising assignment from the beginning, but I'm still extremely disappointed by this. Can Zimmer be replaced on Bond as recompense? Yes, by Lorne Balfe TSMefford, Will, Smeltington and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Edmilson said: Portals I finally listened just to this after everyone goes nuts for it. It's meh indistinguishable buildup and an Avengers statement virtually completely identical to the circling shot in the first one. If this is the big standout orchestral moment of 2019 for a lot of people... poor, poor industry! bollemanneke and Fabulin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,346 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2020 I never understood why people raved about Portals either. I think it's people who are really into the franchise and that moment in the film itself, more than pure film score fans, that really love it TSMefford, Bilbo, The Illustrious Jerry and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Oh my god, you people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2020 "Portals" is pretty good Not Mr. Big, TSMefford, Tiburon and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 It is! So is Main on End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2020 This is my favourite cue from Endgame. Unlucky Bastard, Smeltington and Will 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,362 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Desplat getting the boot is incredibly distressing to me. I was genuinely excited for this score. It was the only thing I expected would get me to buy a ticket to Black Widow. (Moot point these days, perhaps) We have The French Dispatch to look forward to, at least... Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 This cue from Cast Away was pretty good: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 22 hours ago, bollemanneke said: No, but I get the feeling that some here are determined to like his scores just because he wrote them. The theme is great, I'll admit that, but other than that? Generic unmemorable action cue after action cue. These scores totally lack subtlety. You can have subtlety and refinement in movies like these, no matter how much action there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Oh no, we're gonna get a crappy score for another superhero movie that'll be forgotten in a week. Say it ain't so. crumbs and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Oh no, we're gonna get a crappy score for another superhero movie that'll be forgotten in a week. Say it ain't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 4:40 PM, Edmilson said: and music for these kinds of movies these days is more Bourne and Fallout and less David Arnold. Except Bourne realy is a great score imho. Fallout is a pastiche at best. Evanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 "Portals" was one of the best non-JW cues of last year! (And I've never watched an Avengers movie in my life, except for I think part of Ultron) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Oh well, my wallet thanks them for saving me money and not having to buy BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 Quote Marvel — a studio that has developed a slight reputation for firing geniuses — brought Desplat into the fold to compose the score for “Black Widow,” only to replace him with Lorne Balfe late into post-production. Desplat gave a clear “no comment” when it came to the finer points of what happened there (“I was attached to that movie, and then I was detached”) https://www.indiewire.com/2020/05/alexandre-desplat-interview-black-widow-pinocchio-french-dispatch-1202232702/ Tydirium, TSMefford and Bayesian 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jay said: “I was attached to that movie, and then I was detached when executives decided that copying the M:I Fallout score would be better for marketing purposes. TSMefford and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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