Faleel 5,346 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 @Holko@lairdo@Incanus@Disco Stu@MrJosh Here we go! thanks to a JWfan member for the mockups!Main Title (As Written): "The sheet music does not contain the timpani roll at 1:11 so I have edited it out I edited out the first two bars of the ostinato at 1:11 as they aren't in the sheet music 1:11-1:16 contain mockup. the ostinato continues onto beats 3 and 4 of the measure for these two bars." I had to speed up a section of the video to sync.https://drive.google.com/open?id=1N6_N5frpstX0UK2f03yoci5jUwZ5IgXe 1M2 Kryptonopolis (As Written): "The recorded version has most of the bass pedal tones start on a low F and then move down to D on the 4th bar. In the sheet music though, the instruments are playing a low D the whole time. Mock-up from 0:00-0:14 to replicate that opening. Mock-up from 0:33-0:53 re-creates 4 cut bars of interesting development in between the two brass statements of the Krypton theme. The sheet music has no percussion at the spot at 3:52-3:59, so a brief mock-up replicates the orchestra part to present it percussion-less" I inserted a bit of black screen during the sentencing to sync.https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qKQAJ3W9S-owKQ8aF8HTs8XUEUWB3xoC The Planet Krypton (Alternate Segment) [1m2 Kryptonopolis (As Recorded)]:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1j8_DnX7KVjKPRLNnLYJnsi8MFlE5EqcW I shortened one of the zoom in shots of Kryptonopolis to sync 1m2A New Krypton (As Written)"1:23-:128 has a small bit of mock-up to create the original ending. The as-recorded ending has the strings move up a 4th before moving back down to the final note. This original ending simply moves from low C up one step to the last note (D)."https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fouY5k5LgvUxUIwh45uh7aSkGiaue7qU 1m3 [Rev] The Dome Opens (As Written) "Mock-up from 0:53-1:08 to restore 5 cut bars. This cut moment extended out the phrase of that the horn/trumpet start playing, which builds to a tremolo in the upper strings. The sustained note in the high strings/ww at 1:36 is 2 bars long originally. I artificially extended the sustain to make it last longer 1:44-2:04 is mock-up to re-create 7 cut bars. This cut-out chunk is one more statement of the low brass music that appears near the start of the cue with the swirling low strings underneath. " I am not too sure of this one, I might revisit it after seeing if either cut of Superman II has any extra footage from this sequence in it's prologue recap. (or in the bonus features of any of the Superman BD's)https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WsOUF7mZ9-1_aH4CaBg9WGbB3nEEQfEA2m1 The Council's Decision (Original / As Written) "1:21-1:25 Added woodwind parts on top of the brass chord, very subtle. It's not crossed out, but I can't hear them on the final recording, so I'm guessing they were told not to play or were drowned out by brass 4:06-4:41 Added in a clarinet part that has these oscillating back and forth fast notes, creating kind of a shimmery effect. I can't for the life of me hear this part on the final recording, so maybe also the clarinet was told not to play during this section. It's mixed in softly so it's a subtle addition 4:58-5:20 Added a flute part back in. This one was crossed out so obviously was not recorded with the flutes playing during this section. 5:33-5:36 Quick mock-up added for a woodwind flourish that happens on the big brass chord. This was crossed out. 6:46-6:56 Small addition, layered a horn/trumpet sustained note on top of the already existing horn/trumpet part. Reason being that the sheets has them sustain the note for the entire 10 seconds, but in the recording they take a breath in the middle and re-start the note. 7:11-END is the original unrecorded ending." I made numerous trims to sync, using the Extended Cut, surprisingly most of them ended up being the additional stuff concerning the guard coming for Jor-El. https://drive.google.com/open?id=15KLr7GoNa-9XtS04JIxKk0_zBTPhDTNz Holko and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,519 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 So, was the main title written with the tempo jump I fixed and shared not long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Holko said: So, was the main title written with the tempo jump I fixed and shared not long ago? I was going to ask you the same question! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,519 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Good job otherwise! The development in the middle of Krypton fanfares is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Here is Kryptonopolis as recorded I shortened one of the zoom in shots of Kryptonopolis to sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 1m2A New Krypton (As Written)"1:23-:128 has a small bit of mock-up to create the original ending. The as-recorded ending has the strings move up a 4th before moving back down to the final note. This original ending simply moves from low C up one step to the last note (D)."https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fouY5k5LgvUxUIwh45uh7aSkGiaue7qU 1m3 [Rev] The Dome Opens (As Written) "Mock-up from 0:53-1:08 to restore 5 cut bars. This cut moment extended out the phrase of that the horn/trumpet start playing, which builds to a tremolo in the upper strings. The sustained note in the high strings/ww at 1:36 is 2 bars long originally. I artificially extended the sustain to make it last longer 1:44-2:04 is mock-up to re-create 7 cut bars. This cut-out chunk is one more statement of the low brass music that appears near the start of the cue with the swirling low strings underneath. " I am not too sure of this one, I might revisit it after seeing if either cut of Superman II has any extra footage from this sequence in it's prologue recap. (or in the bonus features of any of the Superman BD's)https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WsOUF7mZ9-1_aH4CaBg9WGbB3nEEQfEA2m1 The Council's Decision (Original / As Written) "1:21-1:25 Added woodwind parts on top of the brass chord, very subtle. It's not crossed out, but I can't hear them on the final recording, so I'm guessing they were told not to play or were drowned out by brass 4:06-4:41 Added in a clarinet part that has these oscillating back and forth fast notes, creating kind of a shimmery effect. I can't for the life of me hear this part on the final recording, so maybe also the clarinet was told not to play during this section. It's mixed in softly so it's a subtle addition 4:58-5:20 Added a flute part back in. This one was crossed out so obviously was not recorded with the flutes playing during this section. 5:33-5:36 Quick mock-up added for a woodwind flourish that happens on the big brass chord. This was crossed out. 6:46-6:56 Small addition, layered a horn/trumpet sustained note on top of the already existing horn/trumpet part. Reason being that the sheets has them sustain the note for the entire 10 seconds, but in the recording they take a breath in the middle and re-start the note. 7:11-END is the original unrecorded ending." I made numerous trims to sync, using the Extended Cut. https://drive.google.com/open?id=15KLr7GoNa-9XtS04JIxKk0_zBTPhDTNz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 NEW 2M2 The Kryptonquake LLL, no mockup. I made numerous trims to sync, using the Extended Cuthttps://drive.google.com/file/d/16MyNm4jdRWvj0RYEB5g-yfshL_Ba4Y9y/view?usp=sharing BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,346 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 @Holko@lairdo@Incanus@Disco Stu @BrotherSound3m2 To Earth Entirely a mock-up. There is only a sketch available for this cue, no fully orchestrated sheets. The member who did the mockup did his best to determine which instruments are playing what, just based off of reading other sketches and comparing. It is still open to interpretation just a bit. For the tempo and any tempo changes, he followed the timings written above the sheet music where Williams noted what is happening on screen as well as how many seconds have passed at those sync points. Here are those notes which I used to get an idea of how the scene would have gone with this music: 0:00 Explosion; 0:16 Past Villains; 0:25 Stars; 0:30 Baby (voiceover); 0:56 Spaceship Burning; 1:09 Martha/ Jonathan; 1:15 Explosion.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bRRj74QHFMAfth9jjbhIOTP9kjOO6O3t/view?usp=sharing The Trip to Earth [3m2 Baby's Trip to Earth] (As Written) Very minor thing: the member mocked up a flute/celeste run at the very end of the cue.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IYLJv-9dcSWY5dtzhese8ULTs9UqEwbl/view?usp=sharing Holko, Falstaft, Incanus and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spider-Fal said: 3m2 To Earth Entirely a mock-up. There is only a sketch available for this cue, no fully orchestrated sheets. Wonderful! I’d been waiting for someone to get to this cue, since my very rudimentary skills with mocks wouldn’t be able to do it justice. Mike Matessino mentioned this was the cue he was most hoping to find when the master tapes turned up, but unfortunately it seems it never made it to the recording stage, or, as you mentioned, even got orchestrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 The Crash Site [3m2New Baby Makes an Entrance] (As Written) Not crossed out in the sheets, but the harmony that the violins create on the very end of this cue cannot be heard, so they may have been told not to play during recording. Member added mock-up of soft violin trills 0:23-END https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QhRpCxyduhb2Omdg4mmB7LcdlxyBD0lA/view?usp=sharing @Holko@lairdo@Incanus@Disco Stu@BrotherSound@FalstaftGrowing Up:[3m5A Baby Lifts Lorry - Version A] Fully a mock-up. Cue uses the personal theme.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D3WqQziJ1-i5Q2VtW9PeUNvhuQRoXRh9/view?usp=sharing [4m2 Racing the Train] (Original Version)0:00-0:08 on top of the existing recording, mock-ups of percussion & keyboards (Celeste, piano) were added, and more of a crescendo up to the tempo change created. Added tremolo cellos and sustained violin notes on top of the existing pizzicato at 0:08-0:11.0:11-0:22 is a mock up of this original unrecorded segment which was replaced with a repeat of later material in the final version. The trumpet fanfare at 0:21 is an original crossed-out version.0:34 no mock-up here, but 1 bar's worth of material was cut to replicate how it was originally written. The sheet music in this spot states to create an additional measure by repeating the end of a bar, and the start of the next bar (which is what is heard in the final version).https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jHE05qipOar7377LtJ0KgUBkxL-2Nw5Z/view?usp=sharing[4m2 Racing the Train] (LLL Version) Some bits were microedited in the final [television] cut..https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iSe_1t9XNPWt7ojckdN-k_6u6OD48BmX/view?usp=sharing Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 @Holko@lairdo@Incanus@Disco Stu@BrotherSound@FalstaftJonathan's Death [4m4/5m1] (As Written - Incomplete) Very small moment of mockup from 0:01-0:06 to show how the rhythm of the flute/clarinet soli was written differently than recorded. Measures 12-16 were re-written. In the fully orchestrated manuscript, the original bar 12 can be seen...but unfortunately not the original bars 13-16. the sketch only has the revised bars 12-16 sketched out. So...this mockup has the original bar 12, which then abruptly ends since It cannot be completed. The mocked up measure is at the end, 0:37. https://drive.google.com/file/d/10YdorfCqSlpIjxVNCwQbB4rshabVRruK/view?usp=sharing Late Night Country Music [5m2]/Leaving Home [5m3 Kryptonite Calls] (As Written) 5m2 source cue is unused in any version of the film.0:00-1:30 The member added in missing ARP Synthesizer part. Note that he didn't know exactly what it should sound like, but chose this sound out of some various synth pads he has.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1itKuxz8Qn1kZtBwErOuOtUdge5jvYVr2/view?usp=sharing Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 @Holko@lairdo@Incanus@Disco Stu@BrotherSound@Falstaft@MrJosh Well, I tackled the LLL Fortress of Solitude alternate, it almost drove me insane, with what little we know about the cut it scored, but I put together something that, while maybe not even 80% accurate, felt somewhat right to me.The Fortress of Solitude (Alternate Segment): [5m4-6m1 The Fortress of Solitude New Start] (As Written)0:49, added a small bit of horn that doesn't play (triplet) but is shown in sheet music1:34-1:45 Added in a non-recorded ARP synth part1:58-2:21 Added in some moving string parts, some of which don't play in the recording, and one small bit of woodwinds2:36 Added in oboe solo that plays counterpoint to the clarinet solo2:55-3:06 Added in trombone part that does not play in the final recording https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dSBCgtXpmhfyISIxmsCc9pIoS-wKU9li/view?usp=sharing [5m4-6m1 The Fortress of Solitude New Start] (With Suggested Cut) This is what the final recording would be like if the directions in the sheet music was followed to cut or not play the bars 21 to 29. The cut is at 1:27. Thankfully the full cue was recorded.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TrJMdNEkjqITRiQTlZj7A1JxArirhy-3/view?usp=sharing Incanus and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Does the Fortress of Solitude sequence in the extended cut have a restored score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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