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Yeah, I don't notice anything either.

Time for me to chime in I guess.   1- I am not dead, as apparently some of you have theorised.   2- Things are....pretty dire over here. 546 dead according to the latest numbers, a

It's fine if you guys want to argue about stuff, but it's against the board roles to personally insult each other.  Keep the discussion on topic.  Thanks.

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11 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Bournemouth Beach on the United Kingdom, yesterday:

 

Milhares de pessoas se aglomeram em praia de Bournemouth, cidade no sul da Inglaterra, nesta quarta-feira (24) — Foto: Andrew Matthews/PA via AP

 

I can only hope (against all odds) that this doesn't leave to the feared second wave.

 

Looks like that photo could have been taken with an incredible lens that makes it appear like people aren't social distancing. The media did the same thing months ago in Southern California, taking 8000k THX Certified photos with some of the most incredible lenses in existence that showed miles and miles of beaches from an angle appearing to be packed without six feet between parties. But it was fake news. 

 

If they're socially distancing and outside in the sun, what's the big deal?

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1 hour ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

If they're socially distancing

 

They are not. The beach couldn't be more packed. I would say "nice try", but it's not even that. They are also in the water which goes against the advice of virologists. 

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1 hour ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

 

Looks like that photo could have been taken with an incredible lens that makes it appear like people aren't social distancing. The media did the same thing months ago in Southern California, taking 8000k THX Certified photos with some of the most incredible lenses in existence that showed miles and miles of beaches from an angle appearing to be packed without six feet between parties. But it was fake news. 

 

If they're socially distancing and outside in the sun, what's the big deal?

 

Nah, I know what you're saying about the news reporting and photographic perspectives, but in this case the crowds were as dense on the ground as they appear in the photos. Even in normal times Bournemouth beach doesn't get as ridiculously busy as that (I lived there as a child). A public incident was declared as the sheer amount of people in one smallish place was abnormally large. That mass gathering was the direct result of people being cooped up for months, it was bound to happen in rainy England once a really hot couple of days came along.

 

Again, I'll be expecting to see that R number rise in the south of England over the coming weeks. It surely has to. I'll be keeping an eye on it (to make sure it does).

 

It's also worth keeping in mind that the vast majority of sunseekers were likely young and therefore practically invulnerable to Covid-19 (I say this also because I love how this fact triggers the fuck out of people in this thread). The "shielded" will be understandably still staying at home away from the risks, presumably. And with new studies beginning to suggest that the asymptotic are not necessarily transmitters of the virus as first assumed, well... I'll as I say, be watching that R number in the south of England with interest.

 

But yeah, these massive crowds need to be reigned in, somehow. There was another [understandable] mass gathering in Liverpool last night after the football team won the league for the first time in 30 years. So another R number to keep an eye on.

 

If it does rise in these areas, hopefully localised lockdowns will be the way forward.

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39 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

I thought the UV light from the sun kills the virus? If so, they're all just bathing in the cure for the virus. What's wrong with that?

 

They are outside, which is a good thing, and direct sunlight does kill the virus when it's exposed on a flat surface (only takes a minute or so), but it doesn't kill the droplets that are being directly launched from one person to another (from yelling, laughing, sneezing, coughing, sweat). Then there's all the accidental touching and bumping into each other. You simply can't avoid that, not with so many people together. 

People act as if the virus is over, even when government says it isn't. But when a government says "we defeated the virus", people are going to celebrate by flocking to the beaches. There is no plan in the US.

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Yeah but only the foolish pensioners in attendance really need to worry about that, at least in the immediate interaction phase. The education is well out there by now and if some old leather skinned prunes die then it's literally their own fault. But if they also want to take their chances, then let 'em. It's their right in a free country. One would certainly hope that any younger groups with some sort of underlying health condition are intelligent enough to know that going to a busy area full of sweat and stink isn't really advisable at this time (and some would stay away even in normal times). 

 

Again, the higher risk groups now have to take responsibility for themselves. If you're worried, don't go to the beach. And don't have your chavvy relatives popping around for a visit either, because there's a chance they did go to the beach.

 

You can't lock down the fit and healthy forever just for you.

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1 hour ago, Alexcremers said:

 

They are outside, which is a good thing, and direct sunlight does kill the virus when it's exposed on a flat surface (only takes a minute or so), but it doesn't kill the droplets that are being directly launched from one person to another (from yelling, laughing, sneezing, coughing, sweat). Then there's all the accidental touching and bumping into each other. You simply can't avoid that, not with so many people together. 

People act as if the virus is over, even when government says it isn't. But when a government says "we defeated the virus", people are going to celebrate by flocking to the beaches. There is no plan in the US.


it wasn’t just an isolated incident in Bournemouth either 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Alexcremers said:

 

They are outside, which is a good thing, and direct sunlight does kill the virus when it's exposed on a flat surface (only takes a minute or so), but it doesn't kill the droplets that are being directly launched from one person to another (from yelling, laughing, sneezing, coughing, sweat). Then there's all the accidental touching and bumping into each other. You simply can't avoid that, not with so many people together. 

People act as if the virus is over, even when government says it isn't. But when a government says "we defeated the virus", people are going to celebrate by flocking to the beaches. There is no plan in the US.

 

Looked over the fact that it was in the UK but can you blame me?

 

who-has-the-craziest-hair-donald-trump-o

 

 

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9 hours ago, Alexcremers said:

 

Looked over the fact that it was in the UK but can you blame me?

 

who-has-the-craziest-hair-donald-trump-o

 

 

 

Both of them are globalist wannabes. If they'd kept their promises on securing the border against threats and acting as sovereign entities rather than puppets of global opinion, the US and the UK wouldn't be where we are today, and we could crowd the beaches as we pleased. 

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14 hours ago, Quintus said:

Yeah but only the foolish pensioners in attendance really need to worry about that, at least in the immediate interaction phase. The education is well out there by now and if some old leather skinned prunes die then it's literally their own fault. But if they also want to take their chances, then let 'em. It's their right in a free country. One would certainly hope that any younger groups with some sort of underlying health condition are intelligent enough to know that going to a busy area full of sweat and stink isn't really advisable at this time (and some would stay away even in normal times). 

 

Again, the higher risk groups now have to take responsibility for themselves. If you're worried, don't go to the beach. And don't have your chavvy relatives popping around for a visit either, because there's a chance they did go to the beach.

 

You can't lock down the fit and healthy forever just for you.

 

Seems like more a failure to mandate social distancing at the beaches. They can cap off attendance and just close the beaches after a certain amount. Why didn't they do that?

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15 hours ago, Quintus said:

Well, I see the repercussions of the black lives matter crowds are finally filtering through. Fuckin' muppets. I really hope it was worth it.

I’ve come across many posts exclaiming “Don’t blame the protesters, blame the cops that brought this upon us!”.

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https://apnews.com/5a06549049a5471d510ddde7188eeae9

 

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World hits coronavirus milestones amid fears worse to come

By NICOLE WINFIELD and KEN MORITSUGU
 
 
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ROME (AP) — The world surpassed two sobering coronavirus milestones Sunday -- 500,000 confirmed deaths, 10 million confirmed cases -- and hit another high mark for daily new infections as governments that attempted reopenings continued to backtrack and warn that worse news could be yet to come.

 

“COVID-19 has taken a very swift and very dangerous turn in Texas over just the past few weeks,” said Gov. Greg Abbott, who allowed businesses to start reopening in early May but on Friday shut down bars and limited restaurant dining amid a spike in cases.

 

California Gov. Gavin Newsom rolled back reopenings of bars in seven counties, including Los Angeles. He ordered them to close immediately and urged eight other counties to issue local health orders mandating the same.

 

More Florida beaches will be closing again to avoid further spread of the new coronavirus as officials try to tamp down on large gatherings amid a spike in COVID-19 cases. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said interactions among young people are driving the surge.

 

“Caution was thrown to the wind and so we are where we are,” DeSantis said.

 

South Africa’s health minister warned that the country’s current surge of cases is expected to rapidly increase in the coming weeks and push hospitals to the limit. Health Minister Zwelini Mkhize said the current rise in infections has come from people who “moved back into the workplace.

 

New clusters of cases at a Swiss nightclub and in the central English city of Leicester showed that the virus was still circulating widely in Europe, though not with the rapidly growing infection rate seen in parts of the U.S., Latin America and India.

 

Poland and France, meanwhile, attempted a step toward normalcy as the held elections that had been delayed by the virus.

 

Wearing mandatory masks, social distancing in lines and carrying their own pens to sign voting registers, French voters cast ballots in a second round of municipal elections. Poles also wore masks and used hand sanitizer, and some in virus-hit areas were told to mail in their ballots.

 

“I didn’t go and vote the first time around because I am elderly and I got scared,” said Fanny Barouh as she voted in a Paris school.

 

In Texas, Abbott appeared with Vice President Mike Pence, who cut campaign events from upcoming visits to Florida and Arizona because of rising virus cases in those states.

Pence praised Abbott for both his decision to reopen the state, and to roll back the reopening plans.

 

“You flattened the curve here in Texas ... but about two weeks ago something changed,” Pence said.

 

Pence urged people to wear masks when unable to practice social distancing. He and Abbott wore face masks as they entered and left the room, taking them off while speaking to reporters.

 

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, meanwhile, defended the fact that President Donald Trump has rarely worn a mask in public, saying he doesn’t have to follow his own administration’s guidance because as a leader of the free world he’s tested regularly and is in “very different circumstances than the rest of us.”

 

Addressing spikes in reported coronavirus cases in some states, Azar said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that people “have to take ownership” of their own behaviors by social distancing and wearing masks if possible.

 

A reported tally Sunday from Johns Hopkins University researchers said the death toll from the coronavirus pandemic had topped 500,00.

 

About 1 in 4 of those deaths – more than 125,000 – have been reported in the U.S. The country with the next highest death toll is Brazil, with more than 57,000, or about 1 in 9.

 

The true death toll from the virus, which first emerged in China late last year, is widely believed to be significantly higher. Experts say that especially early on, many victims died of COVID-19 without being tested for it.

 

To date, more than 10 million confirmed cases have been reported globally. About a quarter of them have been reported in the U.S.

 

The World Health Organization announced another daily record in the number of confirmed coronavirus cases across the world - topping over 189,000 in a single 24-hour period. The tally eclipses the previous record a week earlier at over 183,000 cases, showing case counts continue to progress worldwide.

 

Overall the U.S. still has far and away the most total cases. At more than 2,450,000 - roughly twice that of Brazil. The number of actual cases worldwide is much higher.

 

New York, once the nation’s pandemic epicenter, is now “on the exact opposite end,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in an interview with “Meet the Press.”

 

The state reported five new virus deaths Saturday, its lowest reported daily death toll since March 15. During the state’s peak pandemic in April, nearly 800 people were dying every day. New York still leads the nation in COVID-19 deaths with nearly 25,000.

 

In the state of Washington, Gov. Jay Inslee put a hold on plans to move counties to the fourth phase of his reopening plan as cases continue to increase. But in Hawaii, the city of Honolulu announced that campgrounds will reopen for the first time in three months with limited permits to ensure social distancing.

 

Britain’s government, meanwhile, is considering whether a local lockdown is needed for the central English city of Leicester amid reports about a spike in COVID-19 among its Asian community. It would be Britain’s first local lockdown.

 

“We have seen flare-ups across the country in recent weeks,” Home Secretary Priti Patel told the BBC on Sunday.

 

Polish voters were casting ballots, in person and by mail, for a presidential election that was supposed to have taken place in May but was chaotically postponed amid the pandemic. President Andrzej Duda, a 48-year-old conservative backed by the nationalist ruling Law and Justice party, is running against 10 other candidates as he seeks a second five-year term.

 

Iwona Goge, 79, was encouraged to see so many people voting in Warsaw.

“It’s bad. Poland is terribly divided and people are getting discouraged,” she said.

 

French voters were choosing mayors and municipal councilors in Paris and 5,000 towns and cities in a second round of municipal elections held under strict hygiene rules. Key battlegrounds include Paris, where the next mayor will preside over the 2024 Summer Olympics.

 

Italy was honoring its dead later Sunday with an evening Requiem concert in hard-hit Bergamo province. The ceremony in the onetime epicenter of the European outbreak came a day after Italy registered the lowest daily tally of COVID-19 deaths in nearly four months: eight.

 

European leaders were taking no chances in tamping down new clusters. German authorities renewed a lockdown in a western region of about 500,000 people after about 1,300 slaughterhouse workers tested positive.

 

Africa’s confirmed cases of COVID-19 continued to climb to a new high of more than 371,000, including 9,484 deaths, according to figures released Sunday by the African Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

 

Thanks, China.

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Looks like this is a few weeks old but did t see it until now - saw a fake looking post on Facebook shared by Stefan and research showed it to be true.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/12/875486356/first-known-u-s-lung-transplant-for-covid-19-patient-performed-in-chicago

 

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Doctors at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago announced Thursday they've performed the first successful double-lung transplant on a COVID-19 patient in the United States.

The woman in her 20s was otherwise healthy but developed a severe case of COVID-19 that resulted in hospitalization, says Dr. Ankit Bharat, Northwestern's chief of thoracic surgery.

For two months, she was in the intensive care unit on a ventilator and another machine, known as ECMO, that pumps and oxygenates blood outside of the body. Although she eventually cleared the coronavirus from her body, she remained in severe condition.
 

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