Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Irn-Bru is a lot cheaper! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: It's ordered. Along with Minority Report, The Swarm, and Stargate. You still haven't ordered Minority Report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Of course he has, he just wrote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Josh500 said: You still haven't ordered Minority Report? I'm several expansions and Williams osts behind .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 What's the point of keeping up? We're soon gonna die of the Coronavirus anyway*. *According to @Blumenkohl. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What's the point of keeping up? We're soon gonna die of the Coronavirus anyway*. *According to @Blumenkohl. You are! Not me. 37 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I'm several expansions and Williams osts behind .. I haven't gotten the Disaster Boxset yet. 😂 Oh, I've heard it, since a friend of mine has bought it on day one, but I keep putting it off so far. Also, I don't have the expanded Monsigneur yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Anyone know if this release was this sourced from new scans of the master tapes, or taken from existing digital masters, like the Schindler's List expansion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I really love that Crumbs fella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, crumbs said: Anyone know if this release was this sourced from new scans of the master tapes, or taken from existing digital masters, like the Schindler's List expansion? Looking at the samples' spectrogram, I'd say digital masters. No idea if it's the same masters that were used for the OST though. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,315 Posted March 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2020 Won't bother expanding this message because I know it'll be another predictably useless, tired, sarcastic remark. 1 minute ago, Chewy said: Looking at the samples' spectrogram, I'd say digital masters. No idea if it's the same masters that were used for the OST though. Thanks Chewy. Intrigued to hear some more detail from Mike about what they uncovered for this score. I love hearing the technical details of these expansions; the restoration aspect is as interesting as the creative aspect for me. Bayesian, Chewy, Holko and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 As far as it's possible to tell from the samples, the sound quality did seem to be somewhat improved. I have to listen to the CDs themselves to be certain, of course... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, crumbs said: Don't even need to expand this message because I know it'll be some utterly useless, sarcastic remark. You're right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: What's the point of keeping up? We're soon gonna die of the Coronavirus anyway*. *According to @Blumenkohl. I heard the tripods in WOTW were the ones who actually brought that virus here. Maybe a future OST expansion will carry a sample of the virus in the bonus section. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, phbart said: Maybe a future OST expansion will carry a sample of the virus in the bonus section. That's great, as long as it's complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Damn, La-La Land is cleaning me out! Ordered. This'll be another new score for me. Fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Wow! Unexpected, but excellent timing for St. Patrick’s Day. Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Josh500 said: You still haven't ordered Minority Report? Ordering a single album from the US is not feasible, and when I ordered other stuff it was out of stock. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I'm still waiting for that new thing they were going to do to ease overseas expenses... So LLL, will it be implemented when all of Williams' catalogue has been released and out of print? ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I'm looking at doing the same thing for JNH's Alive - waiting for Intrada to release something else I want. It costs nearly as much to ship as a single release is worth - it's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Yeah. I think It's ok having 15$ for overseas shipping. But the extra dollars for every single physical CD (not just every "set") is too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Agreed with all the above. I can't justify buying single releases anymore due to the ridiculous overseas shipping costs. So I have to wait until LLL have 2-3 titles I want before ordering (and for them to all be in stock, which is becoming rare). DrTenma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I usually break that rule and buy it anyway if it's a really important (to me) release, but for scores that I merely 'like', I'm not in so much of a hurry. I did that with The Mummy Returns when Apollo 13 came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,418 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: I usually break that rule and buy it anyway if it's a really important (to me) release, but for scores that I merely 'like', I'm not in so much of a hurry. I did that with The Mummy Returns when Apollo 13 came out. I'm from the states, but I do understand the issue with the cost of shipping in other countries, but it seems that if you don't bite the bullet on the shipping when it's first released, then you are going to be paying way more to purchase it from a re-seller (amazon, ebay..) or miss out on it completely. Pick your poison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Luckily, LLLR use to have a few sales each year, which can reduce your cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,363 Posted March 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 1:43 PM, Josh500 said: It just occurred to me... Only last year we got Minority Report, this year we're getting Far and Away. Next year War of the Worlds and/or Born on the Fourth of July? This Tom Cruise/John Williams streak gotta continue! On 3/3/2020 at 8:34 PM, crumbs said: Just remembered LLL also had Mission Impossible the month before Minority Report, so that's 4 Cruise releases in the last 6 months... interesting timing. Wouldn't be surprised if expansions for WOTW and BOT4J were approved at the same time. We can dream... I don't believe any label has ever used actors involved as a factor to determine which scores to license from the film studios On 3/3/2020 at 9:12 PM, Josh500 said: Who among you guys here got the Expanded Mission: Impossible from Elfman? Is that worth getting? I have only the OST album, and I feel like all the highlights are there (3 tracks)... 😂 It's one of my favorite expanded albums of the entire 2010s. I think it's a brilliant score, and the expanded presentation of it is brilliant. The additional music fleshes out the score and features some really fun and quirky new passages, and the new mastering is absolutely top notch. That being said, the OST certainly was a very good assembly of highlights of the score, and if you are not a fan of the OST, then the expanded presentation won't change your mind. On 3/4/2020 at 7:49 AM, crumbs said: Anyone know if this release was this sourced from new scans of the master tapes, or taken from existing digital masters, like the Schindler's List expansion? I speak from no authority (haven't seen the booklet yet for this one), but MIke's job at Universal is to oversee fresh transfers of all their old analog tapes, so I'd certainly imagine that's what was used here. It sounds AMAZING from start to finish. Thinking about this more, it's most certainly a new digital transfer of analog tape. Remember the HP1 digital master from 2001 was only 24/44.1, so Mike wisely had the analog tapes pulled to do the entire project in 192/24. Far and Away is from 1992 and the digital master from that era is probably 16/44.1 or something! There's no way he could have gotten the improvement in sound he did without going to a pristine analog source. Josh500, Holko and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jay said: I don't believe any label has ever used actors involved as a factor to determine which scores to license from the film studios Well, we're all humans. Maybe it's not exactly likely to happen this way, but it's at least possible. Stranger things have happened. The way we're talking and speculating now, those responsible for licencing might also be thinking, "Mission Impossible, Minority Report, Far and Away. Hmmm. Let's see what other Tom Cruise projects we could have a crack at next." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,418 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Luckily, LLLR use to have a few sales each year, which can reduce your cost. If it's still in-stock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Well, we're all humans. Maybe it's not exactly likely to happen this way, but it's at least possible. Stranger things have happened. The way we're talking and speculating now, those responsible for licencing might also be thinking, "Mission Impossible, Minority Report, Far and Away. Hmmm. Let's see what other Tom Cruise projects we could have a crack at next." I guarantee no label head would think that way. It's a ludicrous business plan. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Jay said: It's one of my favorite expanded albums of the entire 2010s. I think it's a brilliant score, and the expanded presentation of it is brilliant. The additional music fleshes out the score and features some really fun and quirky new passages, and the new mastering is absolutely top notch. That being said, the OST certainly was a very good assembly of highlights of the score, and if you are not a fan of the OST, then the expanded presentation won't change your mind. No, I like it quite a lot. It's certainly one of Elfman's best efforts. Not sure yet whether I want to splash out on the expanded album, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Josh500 said: No, I like it quite a lot. It's certainly one of Elfman's best efforts. Not sure yet whether I want to splash out on the expanded album, though... Oh, if you like the OST a lot then the expanded album is a must-have. It's like a longer, better version of an album you already like. It doesn't ever drag at all, all the new music enhances the experience and never takes away from pacing or anything, in fact I'd argue the pacing of the complete score is better. And the new mastering is a serious improvement, it just sounds FANTASTIC now Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Well, we're all humans. Maybe it's not exactly likely to happen this way, but it's at least possible. Stranger things have happened. The way we're talking and speculating now, those responsible for licencing might also be thinking, "Mission Impossible, Minority Report, Far and Away. Hmmm. Let's see what other Tom Cruise projects we could have a crack at next." Plus we all know how actors like their ego stroked... Cruise might be liking all the recent attention if his approvals are needed on these. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,418 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: Plus we all know how actors like their ego stroked... Cruise might be liking all the recent attention if his approvals are needed on these. Reminds me of one of the extra tracks on the Dances with Wolves expanded release: 27. Kevin Costner in the Studio 0:35 Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 We've heard of expanded releases waiting on actors' approval before, so it's certainly possible that multiple projects featuring the same actor could be held up and start to accumulate until the actor finally approves them. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Bellosh said: If it's still in-stock! Yeah, lately they've had a tendency of having the sales when the most popular releases are out of stock. 42 minutes ago, Smeltington said: We've heard of expanded releases waiting on actors' approval before, so it's certainly possible that multiple projects featuring the same actor could be held up and start to accumulate until the actor finally approves them. I was thinking the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: Oh, if you like the OST a lot then the expanded album is a must-have. It's like a longer, better version of an album you already like. It doesn't ever drag at all, all the new music enhances the experience and never takes away from pacing or anything, in fact I'd argue the pacing of the complete score is better. And the new mastering is a serious improvement, it just sounds FANTASTIC now Great because it's the sound improvement I'm interested in the most. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, crocodile said: Great because it's the sound improvement I'm interested in the most. Karol That post was about Mission: Impossible, not Far and Away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ATXHusker said: Plus we all know how actors like their ego stroked... Cruise might be liking all the recent attention if his approvals are needed on these. I'm not even sure about that. Are approvals needed by the main actor? I'd say generally no, but in the case of Cruise, that's certainly a possibility, because many of his movies are (co-) produced by his own production company... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Josh500 said: I'm not even sure about that. Are approvals needed by the main actor? I'd say generally no, Well, you are using images of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Jay said: I don't believe any label has ever used actors involved as a factor to determine which scores to license from the film studios My point was more that it's conceivable LLL had a backlog of releases awaiting Cruise's approval and they all got cleared at once (and are now being released gradually), not that LLL planned to have a bunch of Cruise releases at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Ah I getcha. Nice theory but I don't believe its the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,418 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 @Jay Did you do any work on this release? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 We'll see whether there's a typo. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,363 Posted March 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Bellosh said: @Jay Did you do any work on this release? I listened to the final assembly master and shared my thoughts on how it sounded before it went to JW for approval. I have not seen the booklet yet. Bellosh, crumbs, bollemanneke and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 So you basically said "it sounds great!"? A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Bellosh said: I'm from the states, but I do understand the issue with the cost of shipping in other countries, but it seems that if you don't bite the bullet on the shipping when it's first released, then you are going to be paying way more to purchase it from a re-seller (amazon, ebay..) or miss out on it completely. Pick your poison? Exactly this! Either submit to the postage, or pay the big bucks on eBay / Discogs down the line... Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 His 90's output wasn't very good but this is quit good. Of course not buying this, they just want our money, it doesn't sound that much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I think the 90's were probably his best decade Josh500 and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Yes, he was nearest to ordinary film music but thank god he is so much above it. Thank for the other decades!! Jurassic park always ruins my live concerts, like in Vienna. Great score with the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 37 minutes ago, Romão said: I think the 90's were probably his best decade I think generally his best decades were the 80's, 90's, and 00's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Jay said: I listened to the final assembly master and shared my thoughts on how it sounded before it went to JW for approval. I have not seen the booklet yet. Are you allowed to say how many other unreleased LLL releases you've listened to? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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