Fargo 297 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 32 damn tracks on this album. I miss the OSTs that could represent the music in a film with under 15 tracks. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, Fargo said: 32 damn tracks on this album. I miss the OSTs that could represent the music in a film with under 15 tracks. Congratulation. You've just taken your first step into a larger universe! 😉 ( too bad more folks here don't agree😣) Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I want the full thing if it's brilliant. A. A. Ron, MaxMovieMan and bruce marshall 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Fargo said: 32 damn tracks on this album. I miss the OSTs that could represent the music in a film with under 15 tracks. Once you get rid of the end credits weirdly being played twice, the JP album really was perfect. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 In the digital age people just expect you to eliminate what you dont like yourself. And I dont mind at all, but I can see the other side as fair as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Enjoying the score, though I’m really missing the choir, which was one of my favorite parts of JW and FK. Do you think they couldn’t have choir in this one because of COVID restrictions when they recorded the score in April 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 The choir in FK felt natural as it was a more gothic sounding score. I'm only on track 2 of this so far and really liking the score so far. This track in particular just keeps building! And given that the complete score for FK is only about 2 hours, this can't be far short of complete. Surprisingly it's only £9 at 7Digital so there's going to be a certain point of progress on Spotify where I just go ahead and buy it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Soundtrack collectors then: Not enough music! Soundtrack collectors now: Too much music! TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Soundtrack collectors now: absolutely impossible to please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just saw the film. It sounds like almost all the music is on the album. There are a few action bits from the third act not on there. I would've traded that for some.of the suspense music. But other than that I really like this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 The album is far too long from a pure listening experience perspective - it took me two sittings. But I like all the music and am about to buy it. From a preservationist and Jurassic fan perspective, long albums are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Only one cue stood out to me and it was because of it reprising the FK theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Once you get rid of the end credits weirdly being played twice, the JP album really was perfect. weird, since the entire thing fits in a single CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I always considered myself to be one of the completionists that want every cue in the movie... But this album makes a great case for the other side of the Force. A lot of boring suspense cues that could've been cut, which in turn would make the highlights of the score shine brighter. The first two JW scores had pretty good albums. I don't think there were many good unreleased cues on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Another thing they had was great suspense not asking to be cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I always considered myself to be one of the completionists that want every cue in the movie... But this album makes a great case for the other side of the Force. A lot of boring suspense cues that could've been cut, which in turn would make the highlights of the score shine brighter. The first two JW scores had pretty good albums. I don't think there were many good unreleased cues on them. I missed 2 big action cues for the Indorex in the first JW soundtrack, but other than that they were both very well put together yeah. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Fargo said: 32 damn tracks on this album. I miss the OSTs that could represent the music in a film with under 15 tracks. So, Fargo, KOTM , Me and Thor are now members of THE LISTENABILITY BRIGADE. The counter revolution has begun!😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,392 Posted June 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2022 My official stance on this matter is that it depends of which score we're talking about. Some scores are better represented in its complete form, like, for example, The Lord of the Rings. You can only grasp at what Shore has achieved if you are aware of his music in complete form. This is why I've been longing for a complete release of The Patriot. The true beauty of this score will be revealed in its fullest form once it gets the "Matessino treatment". However, I, a "completionist", do admit that, with some scores (like almost all of Gia's body of work) you can pretty much have an idea of all that a score has to offer with a 60 to 75 minute collection that includes all the highlights and important beats and excludes the "boring suspense cues". These unnecessary tracks don't add nothing to the main body of score and they just make the experience of listening to the album more tiresome, which in turn detracts from the highlights. TLDR: It depends of the score, not all of them are best represented in complete form. I know the subject is more complex than this (JWFan members have been discussing it for years now), but in general that's my opinion. TSMefford, Brónach, HunterTech and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Some folks just can't live without every second of every boring " sneaking around" cue! 😎😒 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Giacchino scores have highlights? Unlucky Bastard and Brónach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted June 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Some folks just can't live without every second of every boring " sneaking around" cue! 😎😒 Why do you even hang out here? It seems like all you do is get mad at the people who actually like film music for daring to want more. Maybe the rest of us should change our opinions to match yours and give up on those missing cues since you personally don’t want them. That would be reasonable, right? Evanus, Brando, Unlucky Bastard and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 46 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: Why do you even hang out here? 46 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: Maybe the rest of us should change our opinions to match yours and give up on those missing cues since you personally don’t want them. That would be a good start😄 2 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Giacchino scores have highlights? You really have to dig for them among the sixty odd cues he dumps on us. Edmilson puts it well (not that Aaron will understand it) 11 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Soundtrack collectors then: Not enough music! Soundtrack collectors now: Too much music! DAMMIT Jim! I'm a CONNOISSEUR, not a collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 It's not too long if you have the choice to skip, remove and create your own listening experience without needing a professional editing suite. Some scores have a better narrative structure that you can listen to them from start to finish in complete form, others not so much and that's all down to the film's narrative too. It really boils down to what I've said all along: I'd rather have more music now than wait twenty years, complaining on a forum for some speciality label to produce it. ThePenitentMan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 The thing that confuses me about Bruce is that he still edits his own albums for the scores he listens to. It'd be one thing if he was too old fashioned to know how to use the technology to achieve that, but he's got a whole system down to a science. Which makes me ask: shouldn't the C&C approach make it easier for one to make better albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Actually , I don't edit albums, I program them each time I listen. The program takes many listens to create. Only scores I really love inspire me to take the time to create a playlist. If I'm on the fence , I'll pass on a score that is hopelessly bloated I can't tell you how many.times folks have posted they couldn't get into a release; then, after I give them MY program, they say " thank you, I enjoy it now". It's in Composers own best interest to make an attempt at creating a great listening experience. Just look at the albums created by people like JW, MMorricone, Zimmer* Goldsmith. They understood this. * I bought the two disc of version of INTERSTELLAR and KOTM! Brónach and Unlucky Bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,376 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 So the CD release will only contain 22 tracks, runtime 1:17:23: Quote 1 Jurassi-Logos/Dinow This - 2:33 2 It's Like Herding Parasaurolophus - 2:46 3 Upsy-Maisie - 1:42 4 Clonely You/The Hunters Become the Hunted - 2:37 5 The Campfire in Her Soul - 1:45 6 Hay of the Locusts - 1:11 7 A Sattler State of Affairs/Alan for Granted/Sattler? I Barely Know Her - 2:42 8 The Wages of Biosyn - 3:49 9 Free-Range Kidnapping - 4:32 10 A-Biosyn' We Will Go - 3:53 11 This Dodgson Burns Bright/The Maltese Dragons - 4:54 12 In Contempt of Delacourt/Dance of the Atrociraptors - 5:24 13 The Geneticist's Gambit/Cicadian Rhythms - 6:14 14 A Dimetrodon a Dozen - 4:14 15 She Shoots, She Scorches - 3:12 16 Gigantosaurus on Your Life - 1:52 17 Ladder and Subtract/What's Your Major Malcolm Function/Six Degrees of Evacuation - 3:49 18 Gotta Shut Down the Blah Blah Blah - 1:38 19 Wu-Ing for Redemption - 1:46 20 Battle Royale with Reprise/Six Days Seven Denouements - 5:09 21 All the Jurassic World's a Rage - 2:43 22 Suite, Suite Dino Revenge - 8:58 Source: https://www.ccmusic.com/michael-giacchino-jurassic-world-dominion-original-soundtrack/665415408843 Strangely Wu-Ing for Redemption is only 1:46 on the CD release (3:35 on the digital version), maybe they only included the first half of it on the OST (the track can be easily edited so it could make sense). Anyway, I really wonder why labels that bother making physical releases can't put them out on 2 CDs, it's not like it would cost a lot more for them. I don't see any point in buying this if it's missing 30 minutes of music... and then people will wonder why the CD format is dying! bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Giacchino scores have highlights? I distinctly remember much discussion of almost every bit of Star Trek 1 hour ago, HunterTech said: Which makes me ask: shouldn't the C&C approach make it easier for one to make better albums? That's part of the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Chewy said: I don't see any point in buying this if it's missing 30 minutes of music... and then people will wonder why the CD format is dying! I briefly looked on Amazon before buying from 7Digital (just in case a CD was cheaper) and only found an expensive import, and just assumed it would contain the same content. And I too am rather amazed they bothered doing a pressing, especially if they have to create a new program specially for it. I hate to mention it again, as I try to avoid complaining about things that really don't matter, but what the hell is up with that cover art? It really is shit. It's like someone missed off a layer where all the white background is, and put a dinosaur from a comic on there. I hope someone can make a really awesome alternate cover. Edit - boom: (courtesy of AA exchange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anthony 572 Posted June 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2022 More albums should do what Danny Elfman did for his Goosebumps score: Program a listening experience that works well on album. Then after the main program, include a bunch of bonus tracks/the rest of the score. Everyone can enjoy the main program, and real score nerds can then assemble their own expanded/complete version. Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Tom Guernsey and bruce marshall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 In the age of digital it would be far easier to just do two releases - one as complete as the composer is comfy with, and another rearranged for optimal listening. Isham's the only compooser I know of who's tried it a few times. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Damn, i will buy the cd for completion’s sake, but im dissapointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 It's a curated release for @bruce marshall. FK was also slightly shorter than the digital version, if I recall correctly. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 Did nobody else notice Da Plane and Da Cycle isn't on the CD version??? WTF??? Drawgoon and JNHFan2000 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Edit - boom: (courtesy of AA exchange) Can't see the image. This one looks like the cover to JURASSIC WORLD: The Definitive Collection of Music from the Jurassic Park and Jurassic World Trilogies - performed by the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra and the Crouch End Festival Chorus, conducted by Nic Raine. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jay said: Did nobody else notice Da Plane and Da Cycle isn't on the CD version??? WTF??? Really??? what kind of marketing it that ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Anthony said: More albums should do what Danny Elfman did for his Goosebumps score: Program a listening experience that works well on album. Then after the main program, include a bunch of bonus tracks/the rest of the score. Everyone can enjoy the main program, and real score nerds can then assemble their own expanded/complete version. Bonus points if it comes with instructions for the chronological version Tom Guernsey and JNHFan2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaaackified 81 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I briefly looked on Amazon before buying from 7Digital (just in case a CD was cheaper) and only found an expensive import, and just assumed it would contain the same content. And I too am rather amazed they bothered doing a pressing, especially if they have to create a new program specially for it. I hate to mention it again, as I try to avoid complaining about things that really don't matter, but what the hell is up with that cover art? It really is shit. It's like someone missed off a layer where all the white background is, and put a dinosaur from a comic on there. I hope someone can make a really awesome alternate cover. Edit - boom: (courtesy of AA exchange) If you bother to check Back Lot Music's youtube channel, you will find out JW3 has 3 different cover arts - Chris Pratt on a motorcycle (the one used on Apple Music for example) - a portrait of Giganotosaurus (the more widely used version, also the physical CD cover) - the classic black/orange T-Rex skull used on youtube 4 hours ago, Jay said: Did nobody else notice Da Plane and Da Cycle isn't on the CD version??? WTF??? This is nuts, the one cue that is released the earliest and supposed to be a music highlight (which it is) is left out from the physical album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulocf 79 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Also the first part of the end credits (Larry Curly) is also missing. Don’t know what logic they followed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbeck 123 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Great that the digital release is almost complete. The selection for the CD version apparently leaves out some of my favorite tracks. My highlights playlist is 62 min. including the following tracks: 1- (1) Jurassi-logos/Dinow This 2- (3) It's Like Herding Parasaurolophus 3- (4) Upsy-Maisie 4- (5) Clonely You/The Hunters Become the Hunted 5- (8) A Sattler State of Affairs, Alan For Granted, Sattler-I Barely Know Her 6- (9) The Wages of Biosyn 7- (11) A-Biosyn We Will Go 8- (13) You're So Cute When You Smuggle 9- (15) Da Plane and Da Cycle 10- (16) You're Making Me Feel Wu-zy 11- (19) A Dimetrodon a Dozen 12- (21) Gigantosaurus On Your Life 13- (24) Gotta Shut Down the Blah Blah Blah 14- (27) Wu-ing For Redemption 15- (28) Battle Royale With Reprise, Six Days Seven Denouments 16- (29) A-O-Kayla 17- (30) All the Jurassic World's a Rage 18- (31) Larry Curly and MOE 19- (32) Suite, Suite Dino Revenge If I would select the tracks for a 1 CD, 77 min. version I would include also: 10 - "Free Range Kidnaping" 14- "In Contempt..." 22- "Ladder And Subtract..." 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I listened through the first half of the album in the car yesterday, and apart from the noticeably low volume, I really enjoyed it. Some less positive aspects - there's no dominating new theme that I could pick out. The first two scores have very clear new primary themes, and while this does have some new themes, they didn't come to the front as a primary identity for me. Also, the music tends to just stop quite a lot, just as an idea or melodic crescendo is developing. Those issues aside, it's got some cracking action, some subtle references to JW's themes and just some really beautiful moments. I actually like several of the action cues more than Da Plane and Da Motorcycle - I'm a little surprised that of all of them to release as a single, they chose that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 10/06/2022 at 6:58 AM, Gibster said: It’s not This is the opening logo in the film and it's heard on the first track on the album at te end (2:11) And after seeing the film twice I don't really understand the multiple titles. The tracks all plays continuously in the film and Giacchino has never really done the multiple titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 56 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: This is the opening logo in the film and it's heard on the first track on the album at te end (2:11) I knew i had heard it! JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said: This is the opening logo in the film and it's heard on the first track on the album at te end (2:11) And after seeing the film twice I don't really understand the multiple titles. The tracks all plays continuously in the film and Giacchino has never really done the multiple titles. It’s similar but not the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gibster said: It’s similar but not the same thing I'm not hearing the difference. What to you sounds different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 217 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 The prologue's end logo music isn't in the film or album. Which is a bit of a shame, I like it. DangerMotif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I watched the movie yesterday (which was quite silly, but fun) and I have gone through the whole score just a couple of times, and I have to say that it's quite good, but I think not on the level of Fallen Kingdom. I really like what Giacchino does with all the pre-existing themes, his own as well as Williams themes. He offers some new and interesting variations which I really loved, and also has some really cool action pieces (especially in the sequence that happens in Malta). My main issue it's the same that @Richard Penna states here 5 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Some less positive aspects - there's no dominating new theme that I could pick out. The first two scores have very clear new primary themes, and while this does have some new themes, they didn't come to the front as a primary identity for me. The first Jurassic World had all the new ideas presented with great development, and Fallen Kingdom had a couple of new really strong themes. This one is a bit more disperse on the new ideas, as well as what they represent. The suite does a good job of summarizing them, but even after watching the movie, I don't really know what each theme represents, as the moments that stood out where the ones with previously established themes. That said, it took me a couple of listens to the Fallen Kingdom score to get used to it's new themes, and now the Fallen Kingdom theme it's on my favourite's from Giacchino, so perhaps it's just time. Has anyone managed to figure out what the different themes are and what they represent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 i love the park theme and the military march from his first one, that gothic theme from the second, and even whatever than softer theme is in this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2022 Giacchino’s action music still, in terms of writing, is usually about on par with a cat on a piano. And cats are cuter. Bayesian, MaxTheHouseelf, Unlucky Bastard and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 This is still nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Hah! I just noticed the melody at the end of track 5, with the kind of 80's computer sound beats...is Giacchino's Lost World Raptor theme! I JNHFan2000 and Drawgoon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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