The "The Phantom Menace Lovefest" Thread

[Naïve Old Fart 9,507]

For all your TPM needs.

You know the drill, assholes, and elbows

[Edmilson 7,395]

I'll just say that these cues are amazing, and whoever disagrees with that is wrong, plain and simple. 

 

 

 

[Thor 7,478]

Love the score, of course, but I have no need for another STAR WARS thread. This board has too many of them already. It's as if that's the only thing people care about.

[Smeltington 1,436]

Thor, this is a thread where we all can be happy.

 

Edmilson, yes!! And what about Blow-Ups?

 

Such powerful action cues in this score, I wonder if it benefited from following close on the heels of Williams' MOST badass action score, The Lost World?

[Edmilson 7,395]

25 minutes ago, Smeltington said:

Edmilson, yes!! And what about Blow-Ups?

 

Such powerful action cues in this score, I wonder if it benefited from following close on the heels of Williams' MOST badass action score, The Lost World?

 

Another great track.

 

My favorite era of action music for Williams is the 90s/2000s, from The Lost World until about 2005. There's some amazing cues in that era. 

[Oomoog the Ecstatic 314]

3 hours ago, Thor said:

Love the score, of course, but I have no need for another STAR WARS thread. This board has too many of them already. It's as if that's the only thing people care about.

 

Let's all move on to Star Wars Youtube Poops.

 

 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

I don't care much for the score, but I love the film.

[dylanskie 104]

 

I haven't spent too much time with the TPM score, but I love this statement of Qui-Gon's theme!

[Arpy 4,145]

One of my favourite cues - so devilishly dark and foreboding.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I liked the video game where Qui-Gon walks in on those Twilek hookers.

[Oomoog the Ecstatic 314]

I remember the previews for that.

[Sweeping Strings 2,346]

AWWW YEAH. 

[mstrox 6,647]

7 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

I liked the video game where Qui-Gon walks in on those Twilek hookers.

 

I spent a lot of time in that game - underrated as far as Star Wars games go, IMO.  A little glitchy, if I recall, but it had a good mix of action and exploration, some RPG style trade quests in Mos Espa and maybe elsewhere.  I think Otoh Gunga was a bit infuriating to navigate through.

[Smeltington 1,436]

11 hours ago, dylanskie said:

 

I haven't spent too much time with the TPM score, but I love this statement of Qui-Gon's theme!

 

 

Probably my most-played track when I got the Ultimate Edition! This was one of the ultimate examples of "WHYYY oh why wasn't that on the OST!" film moments for me.

[mstrox 6,647]

My most played tracks with the UE was the one where Anakin blew up the Trade Federation spaceship - DOTF and the Force theme interplaying was maybe the best thing that Williams did in the prequels.  I always liked the video game mix of it better than the UE mix, for whatever reason.

[Romão 2,274]

I love how this scores has various long stretches of music where you can merge short tracks into longer continuous ones, while retaining an incredible  musical flow. Examples:

 

- The opening sequence up to the Naboo invasion

- Meeting Jar Jar and until getting through the planet core

- The Queen is arrested up until the Escape from Naboo

 

JW truly was firing on all cylinders with this. And it's probably one of the most varied scores of his score. You get all sorts of textures, colors, moods, . What a treasure chest

[Smeltington 1,436]

Yes! Sometimes I'll just play a handful of tracks in a row, covering the time the characters spend on a specific planet. The score breaks down well into long segments like that.

[Loert 2,510]

Don't know what it is about this section of music but it has a very "classical music" feel to it, as if it's a lost work by Debussy or something:

 

 

But out of all bits of music, this one is my favourite:

 

 

[Oomoog the Ecstatic 314]

No takers on the YouTube poop instead? I thought 1:55 there would've had you hooked.

[Fabulin 3,510]

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[Fabulin 3,510]

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[mstrox 6,647]

I think it’s amazing that Weird Al wrote a song about the entire plot of the movie based on Internet spoilers before its release.  I don’t care much for the song (since it’s just a retelling of TPM and not particularly funny otherwise), but that is a feat and pretty bold!

[Jay 37,319]

Weird Al songs don't have to be funny to be good!

[mstrox 6,647]

Agreed, but a straight retelling of The Phantom Menace to the tune of an overlong, middling hit doesn't exactly tickle me as good, funny or not.

[Jay 37,319]

I like when he refers to Anakin as a small fry

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

The Weird Al song is better than the original. 

[Jay 37,319]

Absolutely

[mstrox 6,647]

Low bar, but agreed!

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

What about the Madonna remake?

[mstrox 6,647]

Unfortunately that occurred in a very unlistenable time in Madonna's career.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,507]

I'm not fond of the Weird Al TMP song, because, like Mike, I don't like AMERICAN PIE, but his Michael Jackson songs are good, and LIVING WITH A HERNIA is hilarious!

[Bellosh 3,398]

I think Augie's Great Municipal Band has the 2nd greatest transition into the end credits (first being ANH).

 

 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

6 hours ago, mstrox said:

Agreed, but a straight retelling of The Phantom Menace to the tune of an overlong, middling hit doesn't exactly tickle me as good, funny or not.

 

It's like when people conflate pop culture references with jokes. But they're not jokes, they're just references, and although they may be intended as humourous, they're not laugh-out-loud funny, they're just kinda there. I think that's the reason I never got Family Guy, I saw a few episodes of it, and I recognised a few pop culture references, but I also recognised they were intended to provoke laughter, but to me they didn't, simply because they weren't jokes, let alone funny.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I don't think the Weird Al song is comparable to that. 

[Jay 37,319]

It's not trying to be laugh out loud funny, it's just fun and clever

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Eh

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I guess Jay and I will team up this one time.

[Erik Woods 555]

Can someone please tell what recording this is?  It CAN'T be from The Phantom Menace sessions... and I can't place where this recording is from.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

-Erik-

[Romão 2,274]

As far as I know, it is indeed from the Phantom Menace recording sessions

[Erik Woods 555]

17 minutes ago, Romão said:

As far as I know, it is indeed from the Phantom Menace recording sessions

How do you know?

 

-Erik-

[Romão 2,274]

Pretty much all the complete edits I have heard from this score include the piece (and no pieces recorded by different orchestras). And the sound and performance are consistent with the rest of the score. I reckon I might have been the original end credits, but they were replaced by the Duel of the Fates and Anakin's theme concert suites in the final film

[Erik Woods 555]

42 minutes ago, Romão said:

Pretty much all the complete edits I have heard from this score include the piece (and no pieces recorded by different orchestras). And the sound and performance are consistent with the rest of the score. I reckon I might have been the original end credits, but they were replaced by the Duel of the Fates and Anakin's theme concert suites in the final film

 

I HIGHLY doubt this was recorded for the end credits of the film. It's WAY TOO short for end credit crawls at that time. And I'm pretty sure the concert suites of Duel of the Fates and Anakin's Theme were written specifically FOR the end credits.

 

I'm really curious as to what the purpose was for re-recording the Star Wars end titles during these sessions?

 

-Erik-

[crumbs 14,304]

 

1 hour ago, Erik Woods said:

I'm really curious as to what the purpose was for re-recording the Star Wars end titles during these sessions?

 

Possibly just a warmup/rehearsal on the first day of the sessions that they recorded for the hell of it.

 

Makes sense when you consider the 16 year hiatus between SW scores. Wasn't it his first score in London/with the LSO since ROTJ?

 

Guessing this isn't listed on whatever paperwork we have for TPM?

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Dennis the Phantom Menace

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I don't want to see you. I don't want to know you. Get out of my way.

[Erik Woods 555]

12 hours ago, crumbs said:

 

 

Possibly just a warmup/rehearsal on the first day of the sessions that they recorded for the hell of it.

 

Makes sense when you consider the 16 year hiatus between SW scores. Wasn't it his first score in London/with the LSO since ROTJ?

 

Guessing this isn't listed on whatever paperwork we have for TPM?

 

Make sense to me.  That's what I was thinking too!

 

Cheers,

 

-Erik-

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

They'd never spend time and money rehearsing and recording the cue if there wasn't a possibility that it would be used. My guess is that the content of the end title suite wasn't entirely determined at the time.

 

If they needed a warmup with a familiar cue, which sounds unlikely, they got that with the Main Title.

[Erik Woods 555]

2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

They'd never spend time and money rehearsing and recording the cue if there wasn't a possibility that it would be used. My guess is that the content of the end title suite wasn't entirely determined at the time.

 

If they needed a warmup with a familiar cue, which sounds unlikely, they got that with the Main Title.

I’ve been to recording sessions where other things have been recorded that wasn’t used in the project they were working on.

 

Again, this recording of the Star Wars end credits is 1) Too bloody short 2) There no natural break to insert anything else 3) Leia’s Theme make no sense. 
 

BTW, they did have the end credits worked out. Duel of the Fates and Anakin’s Theme were written for the end credits.

 

-Erik-

[Bespin 8,480]

I just want to let you know that "phantom menace" and "lovefest" don't go together well, my Michelle.