THE RIVER expanded and remastered by Mike Matessino now available from Intrada Records

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

They'll use the next two years to remix the album and make it less dynamic.

[Holko 9,520]

Assembled this quick comparison/theme breakdown doc yesterday morning.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HlQHpJ9HxlGORQ_Kk614GH0dLcaFoyKrj0P_81v6VsY/edit?usp=sharing

 

Corrections or suggestions are naturally appreciated if anyone has any!

[12-Mile Reef 123]

Thanks for posting Holko, this is great.

[Jay 37,351]

Holko, that's great! Have you done similar theme breakdowns for any other scores?

[Holko 9,520]

I guess the Chamber of Secrets "thematic and originality analysis" thing is the closest. This just seemed fun, a small score with surprising thematic richness. Also could help when I get to assembling some preferred program. It certainly helped a bit with being able to tell some cues apart.

I also can see interesting connections now, like the "groovy" motif only being on the OST and the revised Leaving Home, I love that motif and he probably only though of it after the main film sessions it seems.

[Bespin 8,480]

So now that I have the album in hand and after reading MM liner notes, I will treat The River exactly as E.T. in my discography.

 

The album and the score being two very different things.

[Jay 37,351]

They're not though.  Both albums combine film recordings with album-only recordings, which were done with the same musicians as the film score at the same sessions.

 

They are not in the same category as Jaws or The Fury, which were entirely re-recorded by different musicians at a later date in a different studio

[Bespin 8,480]

Of course, but it's pretty much like E.T.

[Jay 37,351]

It's not, though.  it's more like Monsignor than ET.

 

And incidentally both The River and ET OST albums feature more music used in their films than the Return of the Jedi OST.

[Bespin 8,480]

 

MM wrote it's like E.T.!

 

It's like E.T.!!!

 

[Jay 37,351]

Suit yourself

[Bespin 8,480]

Complain to Mike Matessino, that's all his fault!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,515]

You're both grown, married men, you realize that.

[filmmusic 1,826]

I'm very furious!

I ordered this from Screenarchives along with Robocop 2 Bluray.

They didn't find eventually the Bluray, and without consulting with me first, they sent just the cd (after refunding me for the bluray).

 

Now I have to pay customs (15 euros + 23% of the price of the shipped cd), while I could have gotten it for half the price at musicboxrecords in Europe!

 

But I ordered from them, mainly for the bluray which I couldn't find anywhere. Probably it's OOP.

 

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

Back in stock for those that missed out first time around!

 

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12150/.f

 

[Jay 37,351]

It's been raining this afternoon, and I got the urge to put this score on and boy does it hit the spot.

The old OST album is lovely, but I heard it a bunch leading up to this release, so now I really enjoy the film score presentation.  The juxtaposition of the first three cues, the Main Title followed by Leaving Home followed by The Family - is a really great way to set the rest of the score up.  I love this little gem.

[Romão 2,274]

I was listening to Rain Clouds Gather while looking at the sky. It was quite magical

[crumbs 14,306]

Does Intrada ever have sales like LLL? They have a few titles I've been wanting to buy, the shipping is just such a killer. 

[Jay 37,351]

Very rarely. They could use your support now. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,515]

4 hours ago, Romão said:

I was listening to Rain Clouds Gather while looking at the sky. It was quite magical

Yes, it is, especially near the beginning, when the synthesizer reaches its crescendo.

It's possibly the most subtle of his Main Titles.

[Jay 37,351]

The main titles to ET don't really set the world on fire

[Naïve Old Fart 9,515]

Oh, yes they do. They are very "otherworldly", and they set the scene for the film, perfectly.

[Jay 37,351]

I would have preferred a silent main title, and the first score you hear is that brilliant opening with the flute like what opened the original OST album and 1996 CD

[rough cut 1,714]

Now this is a good listening experience!

 

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

Coca Cola?

[rough cut 1,714]

Just coffee in a glass.

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

Not classy, man, not classy at all.

[rough cut 1,714]

Pfffft. 😂

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

You should replace the cigar with a cheap cigarette to match the glass and its content.

[rough cut 1,714]

I’m a modern man who likes elegant things in a simple way. No need to make a fuss...

 

You wish you had this much style!

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

I'm way ahead of you! I'd post a picture of the CD, a glass of red wine, and a sign that says "smoking kills".

[rough cut 1,714]

You sound like my mom!

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

You sound like your mom.

[rough cut 1,714]

Nothing beats listening to a “new” score by John Williams like this! 😊

 

I am really enjoying the album. The sun is shining in on the balcony and, inspite of its gloomy cover, The River is a fun and beautiful album to listen to. The score is perfectly matched with a Cuban cigar and strong coffee!

 

[Chewy 2,388]

Leaving Home (Alternate)

 

Here is how it would have looked like with the images:

 

It really fits the dark, fearful atmosphere of that scene a lot better than the music that ended up being used.

[rough cut 1,714]

Thanks for posting that!

 

There’s a lot of great music on here, ranging from the “pop” vibe in the end credits (that opens the album), to the flourishes of acoustic guitar, the beautiful trumpet phrases over string harmonies, and those broody piano ostinatos...

 

Quite a lot to unpack!

[theMaestraX 106]

This Music Composed & Conducted By John Williams has definately got the enhanced re-living vibes of a grand listening experience to this superb film.

[Jay 37,351]

Finally opened up and listened to my physical copy yesterday.  It was a nice ride to work, listening to the OST program, and a nice ride home from work, listening to the film score presentation.

 

I must say I really prefer the film score presentation over the old album presentation.  There's more drama and weight, and the themes weave in and out and build in a more natural way.  The OST album is more like a collection of disjointed tracks.  That Young Friends Farewell cue is essential though, of course!

 

I also am very glad that the alternate Leaving Home is in the film score presentation and the film version Leaving Home is the final bonus track.  The alternate just sets up the score way way better, and doesn't take you out of the mood the Main Titles puts you in with the drumkit.  Great assembly here.

[Bespin 8,480]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

The OST album is more like a collection of disjointed tracks. 

 

It's not a "classic" like E.T. for sure!

[Jay 37,351]

The man has assembled around 100 OST albums, they aren't all going to be amazing examples of music programming

[Bespin 8,480]

I would add that, like it's predecessor Monsignor, the OST presentation looks a bit "overworked".

 

If I'm right, I think The River is the last OST mainly featuring concert arrangements.

 

[Jay 37,351]

Yup it definitely is!

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

Has there been any word from the label about when this will be back in stock?

[Jay 37,351]

I don't think Intrada ever tells us those things 

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

It can literally take years.

[Marian Schedenig 8,192]

3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

It can literally take years.

 

Take them from where?

[Jurassic Shark 12,065]

What?

[Marian Schedenig 8,192]

If the years are literally taken, where are they taken from?

[Brundlefly 2,385]

What is going on in The Hotel 0:27-0:33?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

In the left channel you mean? Yeah the edit at 0:32/33 sounds weird